In '08 Hillary advocated stronger urban gun laws and locally weaker laws in rural areas.

[pa28]

In 2016 she now claims that position means you have a "black problem". A charge apparently directed at Bernie Sanders but almost exactly her own position during the 2008 campaign.

Here is Clinton at the April 16 2008 debate:

SENATOR CLINTON: What I favor is what works in New York. You know, we have a set of rules in New York City and we have a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in New York City is certainly not going to work in Montana. So, for the federal government to be having any kind of, you know, blanket rules that they're going to try to impose, I think doesn't make sense.

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[ibegurpard]

1. Apparently she evolved

Again.

[pa28]

9. Indignantly condemning your own "black problem" in front of the NAACP like it never happened.

That is some serious evolution.

[arcane1]

2. It's almost as if she'll say just about anything.

No, that can't be it.

[saturnsring]

3. smells like desperation

[pa28]

6. Would you mind squaring those two positions for me?

They don't seem compatible at all.

[saturnsring]

12. im refering to all fervent posting of negative ads by dems about dems

[pa28]

20. And by "negative ads" you mean the uncut debate footage I provided?

The "black problems" issue was raised by Clinton's campaign so I don't see how it's desperation. I was hoping one of Hillary's supporters could reconcile the huge discrepancy in her position.

[saturnsring]

21. little bernistas scouring the internet going back years trying to find any little thing that seems

to reflect badly on a democratic candidate. you know the stuff that republicans usually do but now they don't have to because they got democrats to do it for them. your candidate isn't doing so well so you trying to take down the leading dem buy posting any little thing you can find. it is that that smells of desperation and this op is a part of that

[pa28]

22. Strange how some Hillary supporters think examining her actual record is an act of vandalism.

They get mad and call us names like "Berniebaggers" and "Little Bernistas". Asking to reconcile what appears to be a very cynical use of race from just seven years ago doesn't seem like a big demand.

[saturnsring]

23. yea go post it in freeperville leave the tearing down of dems to them they dont need your help

you helping them is the desperation. if you candidate is so wonderful you shouldn't need to do this but he's losing and your getting desperate

[Bluenorthwest]

30. and yet here you are, tearing down the candidate you don't like and insulting other Democrats who

do like him. Hugely hypocritical standards you have. You are berating rank and file Democrats for having a different primary choice.

[saturnsring]

31. i dont see where i said anything about bernie - i like bernie i'd be happy with bernie provided

he can win the white house. - and the rank and file dems can vote for whomever they want in the primary - and if they want to post good news abut Bernie, good! but Hillary supporters shouldn't be posting negative articles about Bernie and the Bernie supporters shouldn't be posting negative posts about Hillary leave that for the gop and freeperland.

like I said im referring to all fervent posting of negative ads by dems about dems

[pa28]

35. I get it. You can't defend the hypocrisy or her record.

Remember, your candidate started this line of attack and now you seem to have taken great offense at the factual response.

[saturnsring]

36. it isnt our job to find faults in dem canidates you want to see that you can go to free republic

and you and the freepers can get off on all the negative press you like.
got a kick out of " she started it" as if we were on a playground somewhere.

btw "my candidate" is whoever wins the primary

[pa28]

37. You sound like a very angry person.

Why not try breathing into a paper bag or take a nice hot bath. Listen to some Sibelius.

[saturnsring]

39. me? angry?

[pa28]

41. Heh.

[Scootaloo]

26. I'm sorry, do you think that Clinton's record should be expunged and forgotten?

[saturnsring]

32. i dont think it's up to us to opposition research for the gop

[Scootaloo]

38. So yes, you feel that clinton's record should be expunged and forgotten. Gotcha.

Hate to tell ya, but it doesn't work that way. You want a queen, move to the UK.

[saturnsring]

40. i said it's not our job to do that not that it shouldnt be done - are u familiar with free republic

you might be happier there at this time they seem to have what you want.

[Scootaloo]

42. It IS, actually. It's part of what's called a 'vetting process"

You're of course deeply offended that Clinton wasn't simply handed the party nomination in 2013 or something, so I guess you don't understand. But the idea is to make sure our eventual nominee, whoever it is, has the best positions, the least baggage, and the tightest ship - or, at least, the ability to keep it all together anyway if they don't.

Further, Clinton's record is a matter of public, well, record. It's not our job to insulate, coddle, and protect her from herself.

[saturnsring]

43. no it's opposition research and dems shouldnt be doing it that's the con's job

and vetting isn't your responsibility either. you are not a vetter

btw "my candidate" is the one that wins the primary

[Scootaloo]

44. Good luck with your calls for information blackout about our candidates, saturnsring n/t

[frylock]

8. From Hillary? Yes.

[saturnsring]

11. wow that is so funny and original.

[frylock]

13. Granted, it wasn't as fresh as this take..

smells like desperation. But it is what it is, dependent upon what the meaning of is is.

[saturnsring]

15. again hilarious and original

[frylock]

16. I'm here all week.

Try the veal.

[saturnsring]

18. lol

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. Yeah there is desperation all right

But not from a candidate with a 30 to 57 point lead.....what is there to be desperate about?

[Truprogressive85]

5. wow

2008 is treasure chest of material how HRC "'evolved"

[pa28]

29. Well, up until now it's been a discussion of current issues.

Now it looks we're going to be discussing Hillary's factual record on the issues as a result of the Clinton campaign decision to smear Bernie on race and sex. According to some of her supporters that means we're "going negative".

By discussing Hillary's factual record on the issues we're scraping the bottom of gutter politics. Seems to me that if your candidate is so bad that reminding voters of what she has actually done and said is "gutter politics" it might be time to find a new candidate.

[frylock]

7. What might work in New York City is certainly not going to work in Montana.

knr

[azmom]

10. She is a joke.

How can you take anything she says seriously? LOL

[UglyGreed]

14. LOL

but you are not allowed bring up her own contradictions.

[frylock]

17. Why is 2008 Hillary attacking 2015 Hillary?

[UglyGreed]

25. I don't know

just please don't bring it up.......

[Doctor_J]

19. she's really pathetic

[Vattel]

24. It's impossible to know what she really stands for on gun control and so many other issues.

[Scootaloo]

27. She stands for whatever is advantageous at the moment

[slipslidingaway]

28. knr ... Sanders and Clinton agree on many points ...

as there are rural communities in both states and if we are going to bridge the gap we need to do so in a way where we can achieve meaningful reform.

Attacking Sanders on this issue and then going further to define it as racial problem is dishonest IMHO.

Thanks for the reminder.

[kelliekat44]

33. Damn you Bernie folks go to extreme lengths...and then end up with disinformation. nt

[pa28]

34. By disinformation you mean the completely uncut debate film with her own words on it?

[HerbChestnut]

45. Bernie needs to bring this up in the next debate

Along with all of her other contradictions.

Actually on second thought, they only get a minute to answer questions so there probably wouldn't be enough time to list them all.