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Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:24 PM Nov 2015

Well I guess its time for Hillary to unleash the Kraken after BS's comment today.

Last edited Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:11 PM - Edit history (1)

People whine when its said he's sexist....then what does this mean

Sanders says there’s ‘earlier butt’ to kick before the GOP’s

CONCORD, N.H. — As he filed Thursday to run in New Hampshire’s Democratic contest for president, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) fielded a colorful question from someone crammed into the secretary of state’s office here: “You ready to kick some Republican butt, Bernie?”

“There’s some earlier butt we have to deal with,” the Vermont senator replied, in a less-than-graceful reference to the Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The remark, which prompted some nervous laughter in a room packed with reporters and supporters, comes as Clinton’s camp has already suggested that Sanders and his team are treating her in a sexist fashion — a notion Sanders has vigorously denied. Thursday’s comment seemed likely to provide additional fodder.

There had been controversy of another sort prior to Sanders’s filing Thursday, with some questioning whether the longest-serving independent in Congress would be eligible to run as a Democrat in the nation’s first primary state.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/05/sanders-says-theres-earlier-butt-to-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3305746/Bernie-Sanders-says-s-ready-kick-Hillary-s-butt-New-Hampshire-attacks-classified-email-investigation.html

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Well I guess its time for Hillary to unleash the Kraken after BS's comment today. (Original Post) Historic NY Nov 2015 OP
This campaign is becoming unhinged. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #1
here is how hypocritical you are Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #3
Where did I say this was sexist? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #6
At some point Janey you would do yourself a favor by just saying sorry. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #7
LOL. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #10
You are beyond hope. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #12
You just made up an entire fake scenario in your head... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #23
Its all they have now. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #33
You're mean. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #65
Yep I am! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #69
Most republicans are. coyote Nov 2015 #108
If you can't admit what you did here and how laughable it is Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #37
I have no idea WTF you're talking about. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #55
Perhaps you are "unhinged". Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #63
Perhaps you are projecting? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #70
I am sorry do I know you? Is there something you would like to add? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #73
Is this still an Open Forum? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #101
Post something thoughtful and worth responding to. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #104
I do ...regularly.....it just is not What you want.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #105
I don't mind Hillary stuff as long as it is smart. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #107
And this is... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #109
It is like a great fog across the landscape artislife Nov 2015 #89
You're making up shit... trumad Nov 2015 #75
Thank you. And personally attacking JaneyVee. Cha Nov 2015 #79
Nice try trumad Nov 2015 #81
What do mean? I was thanking you for telling him he was making shit up and that he was personally Cha Nov 2015 #82
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #50
Thank you for keeping track artislife Nov 2015 #88
There is no plausible rape connotation in saying you will put your boot in somebody's ass mythology Nov 2015 #94
And the more petty Hillary Clinton gets, the worse she looks. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #93
"Kicking butt" is a sexist term now? arcane1 Nov 2015 #2
It's news to me. If it's something you'd say to a man, isn't it sexist NOT to make the same reference to a woman? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #49
All criticism of clinton is sexist, just liek it was in 2008 Scootaloo Nov 2015 #54
Just mentioning those things that make you a sexist make you a sexist. frylock Nov 2015 #77
Lmao the Clinton camp is absolutely pathetic jkbRN Nov 2015 #68
Lol really? elehhhhna Nov 2015 #4
Hillary Clinton is the greatest counter puncher... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #5
Actually no. That would be Obama. Google who won the 2008 Democratic Primary. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #9
Hillary had to be restrained because she didn't want to blow up the party. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #14
you're killin me here lol BootinUp Nov 2015 #29
Obama didn't win by counter-punching. He won by a strategy of attrition in the caucus states. stevenleser Nov 2015 #32
lol what you describe obama doing is nearly the definition of counter punching Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #41
No, its not. There was no counter-punching at all. Thats not what counterpunching means. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #59
It means more than one thing and what you described is counterpunching Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #62
There was no countering involved. Countering is reactive. The strategy was adopted by Obama before stevenleser Nov 2015 #67
Please proceed Governor... Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #72
He ran one of the best campaigns in history imho BootinUp Nov 2015 #52
Obama is the greatest politician since FDR. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #64
Unfortunate turn of phrase. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #8
I agree. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #11
I got this earlier today on a twitter media feed..... Historic NY Nov 2015 #16
Stunned, were they? Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #71
And they clutched their pearls!! artislife Nov 2015 #90
The butt-Kraken? cyberswede Nov 2015 #13
+1 one_voice Nov 2015 #34
Ok, that was just bloody funny. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #38
I know! Aerows Nov 2015 #45
Okay, you win contest for the funniest comment of the day! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #51
Booti-ful underpants Nov 2015 #56
+10 artislife Nov 2015 #91
What a jerk! You are the one getting butt kicked all workinclasszero Nov 2015 #15
Do you think he can kick Hillary's butt? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #18
I think Bernie is a drowning man workinclasszero Nov 2015 #22
I think this is sad. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #25
I'll give him a glass of water. Historic NY Nov 2015 #86
Um, that's not a sexist comment. reformist2 Nov 2015 #17
It's not a sexist comment. It's a silly comment. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #19
How is that a sexist remark? zappaman Nov 2015 #20
Doesn't seem to be. WaPo stirring things up. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #28
Good. She needs her butt kicked. ibegurpard Nov 2015 #21
He has as much chance of kicking her butt as I have of kicking Wladimir Klitschko's butt. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #27
Well, you could sneak up on him and kick him ON the butt, but then you better run!!! stevenleser Nov 2015 #36
Why do some people believe Hillary is a push over? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #53
They don't really BootinUp Nov 2015 #57
She is totally bad ass... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #58
Too bad she's not on your side eh? ibegurpard Nov 2015 #80
We're kindred spirits DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #100
If a commitee with a ton of Republicans for 11 hours couldn't.... MrWendel Nov 2015 #30
Word DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #35
+1000 workinclasszero Nov 2015 #43
let me at her wendylaroux Nov 2015 #42
Krackin? Not a word that's familiar to me. MineralMan Nov 2015 #24
I should correct it, its Kracken. Historic NY Nov 2015 #26
I looked that up, too. MineralMan Nov 2015 #31
what about Bill wendylaroux Nov 2015 #44
What about him? MineralMan Nov 2015 #47
The phrase is "release the Kraken" TDale313 Nov 2015 #74
I'm not up to date on that kind of stuff. MineralMan Nov 2015 #102
Butt...krackin Sheepshank Nov 2015 #40
Good luck Kalidurga Nov 2015 #39
He's working hard to get down to single digits MoonRiver Nov 2015 #46
Gonna beat it like a drum hootinholler Nov 2015 #48
Ohhh horrors!!? 111!!! Fearless Nov 2015 #60
Silly but not sexist taught_me_patience Nov 2015 #61
That might be a bet...Too early to say... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #66
Not sexist but just plain crass, coarse, asinine. DURHAM D Nov 2015 #76
And that nasal-sounding woman who lies constantly is? Fawke Em Nov 2015 #83
Kinda like bush sr.. "..kicked a little ass." when his mic was still open after the debate in 1984 Cha Nov 2015 #98
Pass the smelling salts. frylock Nov 2015 #78
Meh - if he doesn't kick it, then it will be kicked in the general. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #84
LOL Bernie won't get past Super Tues to find out will he..... Historic NY Nov 2015 #85
Iron warrior or delicate flower? whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #87
^^ this nt artislife Nov 2015 #92
Right? AzDar Nov 2015 #106
Get it? Republican candidates have male butts, so you can figuratively kick them. mhatrw Nov 2015 #95
It's time for Hillary to retire. Splinter Cell Nov 2015 #96
It's time for bernie to retire. Cha Nov 2015 #97
Do you realize what you just implied about HRC when you said she should release the Kraken? aikoaiko Nov 2015 #99
Yes DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #103

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
3. here is how hypocritical you are
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:39 PM
Nov 2015

In a previous thread you said:

Hillary has policy proposals, union endorsements, party endorsements, endorsements from civil rights hero's, and experience putting her foot deep inside Republican assholes. She has stood face to face with foreign governments and excoriated them for human rights abuses and stood up for diplomacy around the globe. She is supremely qualified to be president and lead our country forward 

Then I responded:

what would say if someone inferred a politician was going to put their foot in Hillary Clinton's ass

I know it's it just a figure of speech but it has rape connotations and imagery of dominance by violating the body cavity of another human being. 

The reason I point this out is because it seems the Hillary Clinton supporters are very sensitive to sexist language but don't seem to realize a lot of what they say is not any better and in this case worse. 

Watch (disclaimer = this is just an exercise. I do NOT mean the following): 

I really wanna see Bernie Sanders win and put his foot in Hillary Clinton's asshole! 

... 

Do you see how bad that looks? Would I not be rightfully and totally called out here on DU? 

So why is such language any better using it against Republicans? 

Hint. It's not. Integrity matters. 

====

And here you are, using the "unhinged" meme for saying something less offensive than you said.

You are a typical "four legs good, two legs bad" hack.

And for the record Bernie shouldn't have said what he said.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
7. At some point Janey you would do yourself a favor by just saying sorry.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:47 PM
Nov 2015

When you are caught in the act just stop and ask for forgiveness.

It is ok we all say stupid things.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
23. You just made up an entire fake scenario in your head...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:59 PM
Nov 2015

Then demanded I apologize for it, and you're saying I'M beyond hope?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
33. Its all they have now.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

They have been trying this tact with me all day...they are all unhinged....they were so convinced they were part of a a revolution....a revolution where they get to sit on the couch down in the basement!

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
37. If you can't admit what you did here and how laughable it is
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:09 PM
Nov 2015

then yes you are beyond hope.

You are basically caught red handed here.

Your "what me?" defense fools no one.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
55. I have no idea WTF you're talking about.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:30 PM
Nov 2015

Seriously.

You tried to call me a hypocrite for not calling Bernie a sexist, then you demanded I apologize for it.

You ok?

Cha

(297,774 posts)
82. What do mean? I was thanking you for telling him he was making shit up and that he was personally
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:00 AM
Nov 2015

attacking her.

Thank you, trumad

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
88. Thank you for keeping track
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:25 AM
Nov 2015

You provide a service not unlike "those who watch Fox news so we won't have to ".

That is a nice gift and we appreciate it!

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
94. There is no plausible rape connotation in saying you will put your boot in somebody's ass
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:56 AM
Nov 2015

It's obvious intentional hyperbole that has no more connection to reality than when I say that I'm starving if I haven't eaten all day when I'm in no actual danger of real starvation.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. "Kicking butt" is a sexist term now?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:39 PM
Nov 2015

It wasn't sexist when referencing republicans, of which one is a woman?

Imagine that.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
49. It's news to me. If it's something you'd say to a man, isn't it sexist NOT to make the same reference to a woman?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015

Just a thought.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
54. All criticism of clinton is sexist, just liek it was in 2008
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:28 PM
Nov 2015

So is all notation of her record and stated positions.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
5. Hillary Clinton is the greatest counter puncher...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:44 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton is the greatest counter puncher since Joe Louis:




Somebody is going to have their butt kicked and it ain't Madame Secretary


BTW, it reminds me of George Herbert Walker Bush who told a bunch of longshoremen after his vice presidential debate with Geraldine Ferraro "he kicked a little ass."

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
14. Hillary had to be restrained because she didn't want to blow up the party.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:51 PM
Nov 2015

No such restraint is needed against an interloper.


"Kicking (Hilary's) butt."...The septuagenarian senator needs to check himself.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
32. Obama didn't win by counter-punching. He won by a strategy of attrition in the caucus states.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

He planned to fight for every delegate in the caucus states and Hillary blew her money in the first month hoping for an immediate knockout.

Once she didn't win by knockout it was really over but the flailing. There was no counter-punching involved.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
41. lol what you describe obama doing is nearly the definition of counter punching
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:12 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary took the first swing, missed, then Obama swung back and won...

That's exactly what you described.

It is as if you set out to prove my point.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
62. It means more than one thing and what you described is counterpunching
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:05 PM
Nov 2015

But there is another kind and that is what I was referring to when I replied to DSB.

Obama is a counter puncher and he is the best. He describes himself as such. Google it ifyou don't believe me.

Here is the address: www.google.com then type Obama counter puncher. Watch some vids. You'll see.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
67. There was no countering involved. Countering is reactive. The strategy was adopted by Obama before
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:21 PM
Nov 2015

Clinton's strategy was known.

You're completely wrong about this.

BootinUp

(47,200 posts)
52. He ran one of the best campaigns in history imho
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:25 PM
Nov 2015

and I was proud of both him and Hillary when it was done.

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
8. Unfortunate turn of phrase.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:48 PM
Nov 2015

Cringeworthy, but I wouldn't say it was sexist-- note that that's entirely the Washington Post's addition to this.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
16. I got this earlier today on a twitter media feed.....
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:52 PM
Nov 2015

from 2 other major tv news networks covering this event where he got on the ballot. The reporters there were frankly stunned. I expect you see more. Bernie just keeps on giving the ammo out for commercials.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. What a jerk! You are the one getting butt kicked all
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:51 PM
Nov 2015

over the country Bernie!

Now with you spouting bs and siding with teahaddists it's getting down right embarrassing!

Quit now Bernie, maybe you can salvage your reputation.

Maybe not.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
18. Do you think he can kick Hillary's butt?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:55 PM
Nov 2015

I think that is as likely as Paul Reubens kicking Brock Lesnar's butt...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
19. It's not a sexist comment. It's a silly comment.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 08:56 PM
Nov 2015

It would be like me saying I am going to kick Wladimir Klitschko's butt...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
27. He has as much chance of kicking her butt as I have of kicking Wladimir Klitschko's butt.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:03 PM
Nov 2015
Good. She needs her butt kicked.

A lot.




He has as much chance of kicking her butt as I have of kicking Wladimir Klitschko's butt.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
53. Why do some people believe Hillary is a push over?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:26 PM
Nov 2015

Even her enemies have to know she has iron in her spine.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
31. I looked that up, too.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

It's not a word, either in English. Maybe you mean Kraken, a mythical sea monster. Is that it? If so, then I have to say that I don't think Hillary has any powers over mythical beasts.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
74. The phrase is "release the Kraken"
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:49 PM
Nov 2015

From Clash of the Titans. Basically been used as slang/an Internet meme for years now for bring out the big guns. Just FYI.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
98. Kinda like bush sr.. "..kicked a little ass." when his mic was still open after the debate in 1984
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:17 AM
Nov 2015

debate against Geraldine Ferraro? big tough guys bush sr and Bernie.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/03/the-inside-story-of-ferraros-1984-debate-prep/73070/

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
84. Meh - if he doesn't kick it, then it will be kicked in the general.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:04 AM
Nov 2015

I say she loses North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, Virginia and possibly Colorado.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
85. LOL Bernie won't get past Super Tues to find out will he.....
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:17 AM
Nov 2015

PPP's new North Carolina poll finds Hillary Clinton with her largest lead in the state since May. 61% of Democrats in the state support Clinton to 24% for Bernie Sanders, 5% for Martin O'Malley, and 2% for Lawrence Lessig. A month ago Clinton led 51/23 in a Joe Biden-less field and these numbers suggest that pretty much everyone who's made up their mind since then has gone into her camp.

North Carolina provides more evidence of Clinton's favorability numbers improving over the last month. She's gone up a net 9 points from +34 (63/29) in September to now +43 (67/24). Her lead is pretty steady across the board- she gets 74% with African Americans, 66% with seniors, 65% with liberals, 62% with women, 60% with men, 58% with moderates, and 57% with whites. The group where Sanders come closest is with younger voters, but even there Clinton still has a 50/34 advantage.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

Our exclusive poll also showed Hillary Clinton with a fierce lead, 66 percent to Bernie Sanders' 24 percent, among likely Democratic voters . Our Democratic political analyst, former state Rep. Dick Batchelor, said we would likely see a similar result on primary day.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2015/11/3/florida_decides_poll_2016_election.html

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
95. Get it? Republican candidates have male butts, so you can figuratively kick them.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:59 AM
Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton has a female butt, so you can only kick it literally, not figuratively, which somehow makes you sexist because you said "butt" while discussing a female, so you must have meant you want to kick her literal, actual female butt.

And only a sexist would use the same expression for winning a campaign against a male candidate that he uses for winning a campaign against a female candidate.



Was this article written by Beavis and Butthead?

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
99. Do you realize what you just implied about HRC when you said she should release the Kraken?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:54 AM
Nov 2015




It's nice when HRC supporters admit it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
103. Yes
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 10:08 AM
Nov 2015
TOP DEFINITION
Release the kraken
To pwn, to kick the ass of whomever you're releasing the kraken on
I'm totally going to release the kraken on that test tomorrow
by ashraptor March 31, 2010

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Release+the+kraken&defid=4849783



In my milieu we call it an ass whuppin.


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