2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't care about love or hate toward this or that political leader.
I don't care about love or hate toward this or that political leader.
I don't care about how the MSM tries to herd us.
I don't care about PACs and how they are designed to influence us.
I care about learning.
Tonight I'm reading an OP on www.dailykos.com
--Hillary Clinton Endorses Netanyahu in Deeply Problematic Op-ed (Annotated)--
by David Harris Gershon
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/05/1445240/-Hillary-Clinton-Endorses-Netanyahu-in-Deeply-Problematic-Op-ed-Annotated
The OP does indeed analyze a deeply problematic fact about how Hillary Clinton will guide the USA
through its dealings with countries in the Middle East in the coming 8 years.
That this is a problem isn't a surprise since everything I know about Hillary Clinton
with regards to war, war profiteering, and investment banking is deeply "problematic".
Frightening even.
Usually the "comments" section under an article in any online site is a horrorshow of stupid people
mutually putting the hate on strangers. Stupidity reigns over the stupid.
But the first comment under the article caught my attention.
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by Tip Jar (296+ / 3-)
"If the Jew who struggles for justice for Palestine is considered anti-Semitic,
& if Palestinians seeking self-determination are so accused...then no oppositional
move can take place w/o risking the accusation." - Judith Butler
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A good link to that is
Judith Butlers Remarks to Brooklyn College on BDS
Despite a campaign to silence them, philosophers Judith Butler and Omar Barghouti
spoke at Brooklyn College on Thursday night.
In an exclusive, The Nation presents the text of Butlers remarks.
http://www.thenation.com/article/judith-butlers-remarks-brooklyn-college-bds/
As an aside, I've been wondering, lately, how to respond to that kind of allegation?
Someone recently accused me of being opposed to some things that Pres. Obama does
"because he is black". I'm on his case only because he's black. So I'm justifiably anathema,
excoriated and reviled.
Anyone who is remotely like me in the sense of holding opinions like mine regarding "progressive politics"
is about, is likewise reviled.
In my defense, I like Barack Obama and if I could have, I would have voted for him - and I certainly
exalted in both his victories.
Considering the alternatives offered.
But I dislike some of his appointments (his third-way appointments, exclusively)
and actions (drone strikes against targeted individuals across the entire planet,
regardless of formalities like declarations of war and the codes of international law, etc),
which to my mind don't amount to much change from Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush on a couple of major fronts.
IMO he had progressive capital that he didn't spend. He didn't seem to recognize until a
bit too late on a couple of major scores. Like the TPP.
Those dislikes have nothing to do with the color of his skin, his ethnicity, his upbringing,
his sex or sexual orientation, or whatever other happenstance.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)What a concept.
CaptainTruth
(6,606 posts)Personally I love Bernie's ideas, but I realize Hillary might be the more effective president in practical terms.
I'd love to see a Clinton/Sanders ticket.
The most important thing, which I hope we all agree on & can unite behind, is that we HAVE to prevent a Republican from winning in 2016 & ruining our country.
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delrem
(9,688 posts)That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)That ticket (assuming Clinton wins the primary) would take an experienced and principled voice out of the Senate in return for what? At the very least his would be one vote against the next war in the middle east.
Remember when President Obama appointed Democratic governors from red states to take positions in his administration? Kathleen Sebelius leaving helped bring in sam brownback. Janet Napolitano leaving led immediately to jan brewer.
I think someone who has political experience, but is not currently holding office would be better for veep.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Lose a great voice in the Senate, just to pander to his supporters and get their votes, and then relegate him to funerals and dinners.
No thanks. That would be the ultimate cynical move. Remember, Hillary does not support Bernie's ideas. She mouths support for some of them, but she is who she is, and she is not a progressive.