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Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:00 PM

Guess Who Wins the Presidency According to School With 100% Prediction History



Western Illinois University, home of the Fighting Leathernecks, has been engaging with political prediction polls for decades. And since 1975, the school has managed to accurately predict the winner of every single Presidential election in a statistic that is likely to make even Nate Silver jealous.

So with the newest installment tallied and in the books, who does Western Illinois University believe will be taking the stage to declare victory the night of November 8th, 2016?

None other than President-Elect Bernie Sanders, with Vice Presidential candidate Martin O’Malley right by his side.

The students at the school have predicted that Sanders would defeat Hillary Clinton in 22 out of a possible 26 primary states.

More:
http://www.mediaite.com/print/guess-who-wins-the-presidency-according-to-school-with-100-prediction-history/

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Reply Guess Who Wins the Presidency According to School With 100% Prediction History (Original post)
tecelote Nov 2015 OP
UglyGreed Nov 2015 #1
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #2
Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #130
upaloopa Nov 2015 #3
tecelote Nov 2015 #5
Codeine Nov 2015 #9
Aerows Nov 2015 #24
Gothmog Nov 2015 #125
George II Nov 2015 #45
Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #4
Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #11
tecelote Nov 2015 #12
Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #14
tecelote Nov 2015 #16
bjobotts Nov 2015 #21
mountain grammy Nov 2015 #49
happyslug Nov 2015 #31
Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #123
Scootaloo Nov 2015 #79
NuclearDem Nov 2015 #6
madokie Nov 2015 #105
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #7
Hiraeth Nov 2015 #10
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #19
Hiraeth Nov 2015 #50
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #76
Gothmog Nov 2015 #126
LonePirate Nov 2015 #13
Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #15
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #23
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #20
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #41
JTFrog Nov 2015 #35
Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #80
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #82
prayin4rain Nov 2015 #8
Orrex Nov 2015 #17
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #18
ornotna Nov 2015 #25
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #32
ornotna Nov 2015 #37
JTFrog Nov 2015 #36
ornotna Nov 2015 #38
JTFrog Nov 2015 #39
ornotna Nov 2015 #40
humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #22
JTFrog Nov 2015 #26
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #27
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #33
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #34
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #59
Fearless Nov 2015 #84
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #85
Fearless Nov 2015 #92
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #93
Fearless Nov 2015 #95
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #96
Fearless Nov 2015 #97
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #98
Fearless Nov 2015 #100
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #101
Fearless Nov 2015 #102
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #103
Fearless Nov 2015 #104
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #108
Fearless Nov 2015 #110
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #112
Fearless Nov 2015 #113
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #114
Fearless Nov 2015 #116
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #117
Fearless Nov 2015 #118
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #119
Fearless Nov 2015 #120
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #121
Fearless Nov 2015 #122
tecelote Nov 2015 #43
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #60
tecelote Nov 2015 #62
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #63
tecelote Nov 2015 #66
redstateblues Nov 2015 #107
SheilaT Nov 2015 #55
MohRokTah Nov 2015 #61
SheilaT Nov 2015 #73
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #94
NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #67
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MohRokTah Nov 2015 #71
Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #81
Action_Patrol Nov 2015 #28
katmille Nov 2015 #29
George II Nov 2015 #48
Hiraeth Nov 2015 #52
George II Nov 2015 #54
Hiraeth Nov 2015 #56
Name removed Nov 2015 #99
Dem2 Nov 2015 #30
patsimp Nov 2015 #42
lame54 Nov 2015 #44
Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #129
George II Nov 2015 #46
Hiraeth Nov 2015 #51
tecelote Nov 2015 #58
yallerdawg Nov 2015 #47
Hepburn Nov 2015 #53
AzDar Nov 2015 #57
Z_California Nov 2015 #64
tecelote Nov 2015 #69
Mnemosyne Nov 2015 #65
relayerbob Nov 2015 #68
Action_Patrol Nov 2015 #70
Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #86
restorefreedom Nov 2015 #72
tecelote Nov 2015 #74
restorefreedom Nov 2015 #75
red dog 1 Nov 2015 #77
Live and Learn Nov 2015 #78
MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #83
CanonRay Nov 2015 #87
avaistheone1 Nov 2015 #88
TBF Nov 2015 #89
heaven05 Nov 2015 #90
Lunabell Nov 2015 #91
merrily Nov 2015 #106
redstateblues Nov 2015 #109
merrily Nov 2015 #111
WillyT Nov 2015 #115
Gothmog Nov 2015 #124
Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #127
Gothmog Dec 2015 #128
Derdog Jun 2016 #131

Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:01 PM

1. Nice to hear!!!!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:05 PM

2. Well with ONLY an 8% chance....

 

better start hoping for the demise of HRC...

http://predictwise.com/

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 01:46 PM

130. He's down to 7% now

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:09 PM

3. This calls for a smilie

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:14 PM

5. Me too. A real big smile.

Western Illinois University, home of the Fighting Leathernecks, has been engaging with political prediction polls for decades.

Here's another bit of history.

November 4, 2008

Hillary 44%
Obama 22%

But what's real fun is to look at the trajectory:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

For those that don't like the site itself, here is Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Democratic_Party_2008_presidential_candidates

America doesn't need the pick of the oligarchy and corporate media.

America needs a President of the people, by the people, and for the people.

America for Americans.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:22 PM

9. Control-V for Victory!!

Copypasta isn't as compelling as you think.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:30 PM

24. Neither is Clinton. n/t

 

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Response to tecelote (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:27 PM

125. Thanks for the laughs

You do know that DNC rules call for proportional allocation of delegates and yet the article has Sanders winning 100% of the delegates in states where is not likely to get any delegates such as Texas (you need to get at least 15% to get any delegates).

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:04 PM

45. Smile? How about a guffaw?

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:13 PM

4. They are predicting that Sanders will win Mississippi

Does any sane person think that this will happen?

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:29 PM

11. No, no sane person, but unrequited love is insane.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:34 PM

12. And since 1975.

And since 1975, the school has managed to accurately predict the winner of every single Presidential election...

Where does unrequited love come into this?

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Response to tecelote (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:41 PM

14. Just saying.......

http://www.cracked.com/article_20139_6-bizarre-factors-that-predict-every-presidential-election.html

I do not believe in mythology, but I sure do enjoy the telling of the elaborate yarns....who doesn't!?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:55 PM

16. Cool

'Let me know who they're predicting.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:26 PM

21. Just as long as it is a democrat but I prefer Bernie.

 

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:25 PM

49. Love the Oscars one..

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:35 PM

31. This is the PRIMARY, thus excludes right wingers...

 

Furthermore, if you are in a state dominated by one party, moderates tend to join that party and moderate it on the local level. Thus further end of the political spectrum tend to join the other party. Thus most liberals (and they are SOME in Mississippi) tend to be Democrats but moderates, who in other states would be Democrats, are members of the GOP in Mississippi.

What this leads in PRIMARIES, that the "Radicals" of the left and right in such states tend to dominate the minority party in such states. Thus while most Mississippians would vote for Hillary over Sanders, most DEMOCRATIC REGISTERED Mississippians will vote for Sanders over HIllary.

Now, the down side of this argument is the Rural Counties along the Mississippi River are overwhelming African American. African Americans tends, at the present time, to support Hillary over Sanders (just like they supported Obama over Hillary in 2008). How this will work out is anyone's guess, but do NOT count Sanders out of willing the DEMOCRATIC Primary in Mississippi.

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Response to happyslug (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 12, 2015, 07:47 AM

123. No, they are actually predicting that Sanders will carry the state in the General Election:

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:24 AM

79. And that Republicans will take Hawaii.

 

I was left scratching my head at these results.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:14 PM

6. Sanders wins Oklahoma but loses Illinois?

 

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:18 PM

105. I'm here in OK

and I hear a lot of republicCONs say they'll vote for Bernie because he is saying what they want to hear. I've yet to hear anyone say they'll vote for Hillary, in fact when her name comes up all I hear is I don't trust her and damn sure won't vote for her. This is on the ground here in Oklahoma where I'm hearing and seeing this.
Personally I'll vote for our nominee no matter who it is

I hear no more bushes, no more Clinton's and Carson is a Nut and a hearty laugh when tRumps name is mentioned. None of the other clown car occupants even rate a mention around here.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:14 PM

7. No mention of the school's predictive methodology ...

 

Should probably give one pause.

Unless of course, the results are what you want to hear.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:25 PM

10. Did you make this same comment in '08 or '12?

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:22 PM

19. I don't recall the post being posted in '08 or '12 ...

 

But that said ... If you read of my posts on polling, you would probably discern that I am big on methodology. In fact, I do not (well, rarely) comment on polling that does not link to the poll ... So yeah! If this had been posted in '08 or '12, sans methodology ... and I had seen it ... I would have raised the lack of methodology.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:30 PM

50. I truly doubt that. I really believe if you are THAT interested, you would research it for yourself.

You just don't come across as that interested.

You just think it sounds smart to question the methodology this time around because you don't care for the results.

Pretty sure the same methodology was used all three times. I wouldn't think that would change a methodology that has worked all the other times.


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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #50)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:22 PM

76. Once again a segment of DU, substitutes what they "truly doubt/believe" for what is ...

 

I must say ... that must be quite the gift!

I did a bit of research and only came up with there findings, which led me to this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=791205 (See: the South Carolina line ... their model comes up with a 1/3, 2/3 split in favor of Bernie; whereas, the polling has HRC up by 50+ points)

That is reason to be suspect.

Pretty sure the same methodology was used all three times. I wouldn't think that would change a methodology that has worked all the other times.


That may be true ... but a google search of: "Western Illinois University Mock Election + Methodology"

Resulted in: Nothing of use ... the one promising hit was this:

http://thebernreport.com/bernie-sanders-wins-wius-accurate-mock-election/

And when one clicks on "Read about their methodology and results here", one finds the findings; but, not a word on the methodology.

How hard must one work?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #76)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:31 PM

126. DNC rules call for proportional allocation unless a candidate fails to get 15% in district or state

I doubt that Sanders will get many if any delegates in Texas and this article has Sanders getting 177 delegates out of 228. Sanders is polling horrible in Texas and there is a chance that Sanders will only break 15% level in a couple of urban districts.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:35 PM

13. The predictive methodology is certainly questionable given that unorthodox map.

Anybody can come up with a model that gives the Dem candidate the win in the GE. The details and supporting numbers can vary widely and these details make this model an outlier to say the least. There is no way the Repub ticket is Bush/Rubio (no way two mainstreamers from the same state are on the ticket). The Libertarian candidate is not getting 10%. IL, MD and PA will be solidly blue. MS, SC and TN will be solidly red. The details in this model are headscratchers to say the least and make the entire model suspect apart from a final prediction of the Dem candidate winning.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:44 PM

15. Here are 6 more "predictive models" that have "predicted" many Presidential races:

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:29 PM

23. What ... I was expecting chicken bones and toad entrails ...

 

and a Priestess named, Madam Rita!

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:23 PM

20. You found the details of the model? Where? n/t

 

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:51 PM

41. This ...

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/287497355/Democratic-National-Convention-Official-Results

Has me more than skeptical about the methodology (See: South Carolina)

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:40 PM

35. Hey, they have a promo video...

 

http://wiumpe.com/

Dr. Rick Hardy and Dr. John Hemingway have been leading Mock Presidential Elections since 1975. During that time, students who have participated in these mock elections have chosen the winning party with 100% accuracy and have an astonishing record in selecting presidential winners.


The promo video is on the right side of the page starring Jeb Bush.

Not much history though.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:00 AM

80. Because 35 years of being right is not good enough!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:16 PM

8. Interesting. I'd be happy with Hillary or Bernie, so that's great news to me! n/t

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:09 PM

17. Of course, this assumes that he'll win the primary

Hardly a done deal regardless of their track record.


Once the primary is over, I suspect that they'll update their projection to show Clinton as the next president, and they'll claim that their prognostication streak is unbroken.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:12 PM

18. They've never predicted any presidential race correctlly.

 

I'll stick with statistical accuracy from 538, thankyouverymuch.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:31 PM

25. You must have missed this

And since 1975, the school has managed to accurately predict the winner of every single Presidential election in a statistic that is likely to make even Nate Silver jealous.

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Response to ornotna (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:35 PM

32. That is an outright lie.

 

The presidents who win never win the states this college predicts. They've never been accurate.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:44 PM

37. Yeah, sure. Whatever you say

"Western's MPE may be the most accurate political bellwether in the country. In 2007, Western students accurately elected Democrat Barack Obama president of the United States—one year before it actually happened. In 2011, WIU students accurately predicted a narrow Obama reelection over the Republican ticket of Governor Mitt Romney and Congressman Paul Ryan," WIU Centennial Honors College Director Richard Hardy explained. "Once again, this year, students from every college at Western and virtually every school and department on campus participated by helping to organize the MPE and attending the sessions. The MPE not only showed them the importance of civic engagement, but also provided them with an in-depth understanding of how the entire presidential election process works."


http://www.wiu.edu/news/newsrelease.php?release_id=13059

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Response to ornotna (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:43 PM

36. No that is not accurate... From their own website....

 

http://wiumpe.com/

Dr. Rick Hardy and Dr. John Hemingway have been leading Mock Presidential Elections since 1975. During that time, students who have participated in these mock elections have chosen the winning party with 100% accuracy and have an astonishing record in selecting presidential winners.

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Response to JTFrog (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:48 PM

38. And the post I was replying to

Do you think it was inaccurate as well?

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Response to ornotna (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:48 PM

39. I was replying to you. n/t

 

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Response to JTFrog (Reply #39)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:50 PM

40. And I'm replying to you

I asked you a question.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:27 PM

22. The potential is exhilarating ...

I too think that many Democratic voters will in the end rationalize Bernie as the better more trustworthy candidate and the one that can win in the GE. Hillary camp will claim they have momentum and polls on their side but where the rubber meets the road they have to admit the flaws in the character of their chosen one.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:31 PM

26. Democrats. They have a 100% prediction history of picking the WINNING PARTY. n/t

 

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:32 PM

27. The PEOPLE support BErnie, not the Establshment!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:36 PM

33. Actually, that's not true.

 

Every poll shows the PEOPLE's support for Sanders is lacking and the PEOPLE really give much more support to Hillary.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:39 PM

34. Lol, okay, keep on thinking that. I guess the scientific polls that only poll people over 50

with landlines, registered Dems know more than those who are in the real world. It's good though, just as they are shocked and 'puzzled' as Chuck Todd said about Bernie's amazing success, being out of touch with the people makes it easier to keep on signing up all those new voters for Bernie.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:40 PM

59. Poll denial is a right wing trait

 

We saw it in all its glory during the 2012 election.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #59)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:08 AM

84. It's also a Hillary supporter trait

Which we saw in all its glory for more than a month after she already lost last time.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #84)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:10 AM

85. Um, no. eom

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #85)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:48 PM

92. Except yes

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Response to Fearless (Reply #92)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:32 PM

93. Only it's still no. eom

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #93)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:40 PM

95. No it's not.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:19 PM

96. Correct, it is no. Thanks for agreeing. eom

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #96)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:53 PM

97. Seriously? Are you twelve?

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Response to Fearless (Reply #97)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:20 PM

98. Seriously? Are you eight?

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #98)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:03 PM

100. Are you drunk?

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Response to Fearless (Reply #100)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:04 PM

101. Are you?

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #101)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:10 PM

102. No actually, I don't drink.

You are literally trying to have the argument of a seven year old. I have no desire to banter with a seven year old. IF you find something you'd actually like to discuss, give it a shot, otherwise, just stop. The immaturity is making us all look like fools.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #102)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:15 PM

103. Neither do I.

 

You are attempting to have the argument of a kindergartner. I have no desire to converse with somebody who quite possibly missed their afternoon nap. IF you have something to discuss, give it a shot. Otherwise just stop, the immaturity is making us all look like fools.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #103)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:16 PM

104. You are the person who is acting like a child.

I post coherent arguments and you go "nuh-uh" and plug your ears.

Just go away.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #104)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:28 PM

108. You initiated childishness.

 

Who are you to tell me to go away?

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #108)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:30 PM

110. You responded to my coherent post with nonsensical clamoring.

Do you have something worthwhile to say or not?

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Response to Fearless (Reply #110)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:32 PM

112. You have just described precisely what you did.

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #112)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:33 PM

113. You can keep kicking this thread to the top all you want.

You've yet to say anything useful, but the OP is getting great exposure.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #113)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:35 PM

114. Good!

 

I love it when OPs that quote absurd articles that are meaningless in support of the candidate with zero chance of winning get more exposure.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #114)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:36 PM

116. I bet it felt good when Obama dismantled Hillary in the primary in 08.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #116)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:42 PM

117. Cool that you mentioned it!

 

I made my first donation to the Obama campaign on February 10, 2007.

Had Barack Obama not announced that day and decided instead to sit it out, my support and donations would have gone to Hillary Clinton. Their views were so similar that my choice became one of personal necessity rather than anything else. I have familial connections to the Obamas.

Supporting Hillary this year feels like I'm supporting a third term for the best and most liberal president of my lifetime.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #117)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:42 PM

118. So you were AGAINST Hillary in 2008?

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Response to Fearless (Reply #118)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:44 PM

119. Did you even read my post?

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #119)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:46 PM

120. Yes. So you were against Hillary in 2008?

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Response to Fearless (Reply #120)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:17 PM

121. No. i wasn't.

 

I was FOR Barack Obama.

One stance does not require the other.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #121)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:38 PM

122. It literally does actually. You voted for Obama

You voted against Hillary whether you like it or not.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:54 PM

43. Corporate owned media.

Bumper stickers, t-shirts and yard signs show overwhelming support for Bernie. Go look for yourself.

BTW - you can't trust everything you hear on the TV.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #43)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:41 PM

60. ROFL!!!!!!

 

Those were the reasons Romney was going to win in 2012!!!!!

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #60)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:43 PM

62. Good unsubstantiated remark!

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Response to tecelote (Reply #62)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:44 PM

63. Sanders supporters seem to hate the truth.

 

Much like their candidate.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #63)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:50 PM

66. Good slam.

Got me thinking of voting for Hil now, for sure.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:25 PM

107. That settles it. Everybody I knew voted for McGovern

and Nixon won-How was that possible?

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:36 PM

55. Polls also show that Hillary is widely disliked and distrusted,

 

even by the people who say they'd vote for her. Polls also show Sanders doing better head-to-head against specific Republicans.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #55)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:42 PM

61. Sanders can't run if he's not nominated.

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #61)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:07 PM

73. And someone can't win if 60% of the Democrats themselves distrust her.

 

Keep in mind that at this point in 2007 Hillary was also Inevitable. Want to review what happened, and why she's not currently finishing out her second term?

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:49 PM

94. Citation, please

Citation, please

And someone can't win if 60% of the Democrats themselves distrust her.




Thank you in advance.

You actually have the numbers backwards:



Why would you make a statement that is demonstrably untrue and why should I ignore the admonition: "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus" ?

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:51 PM

67. The French Aristocracy never saw it coming either. eom

 

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #67)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:03 PM

71. .

 

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #67)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:02 AM

81. Fuck no, they lost their heads over it.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:32 PM

28. Where's the results from before 2007?

I see nothing anywhere before that.
http://www.wiu.edu/news/newsrelease.php?release_id=12957

Press release from the school only mentions 2007 and getting anything right for the last two elections (that being a school in Illinois picking Obama as winning).

Can you find any other data?

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:33 PM

29. That's like 6 presidents

And Reagan, Clinton, W Bush were incumbents. Not really that unpredictable. I think my son's elementary has as good a record.

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Response to katmille (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:08 PM

48. Good observation. ..and pssst...there wasn't an election in 1975!

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Response to George II (Reply #48)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:34 PM

52. No but, there was one in '76 and the outcome was predicted in '75.

Jesus but, you are derpy.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #52)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:35 PM

54. You calling Jesus "derpy"?

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Response to George II (Reply #54)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:37 PM

56. LOL ... dodge is more than just a car.

this place is a hoot.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:34 PM

30. Awesome!

It will indeed be something to be in awe over if Bernie wins. I predict Hillary will win, but I like Bernie on several issues over Hillary, so it would be quite the election if he could pull it off.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:52 PM

42. I notice so many of these types of predications only to see them be wrong

and then no one ever mentions the accuracy again.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:58 PM

44. They also predict Jeb to be their guy...

don't see that at all

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Response to lame54 (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:08 AM

129. Jeb keeps dropping in the polls

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:06 PM

46. Since 1975? Who was elected in 1975?

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Response to George II (Reply #46)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:33 PM

51. This is 2015. See how that works. Think about it.

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Response to George II (Reply #46)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:39 PM

58. As mentioned above by Hiraeth. The prediction was in 1975.

Guess which election it was for?

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:06 PM

47. When you just can't get enough BS!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:35 PM

53. Great to hear!

I do like that ticket and would totally support it!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:37 PM

57. We said "NO" to Hillary in '08. She obviously didn't get the message, so we'll have to speak

 

more clearly this time:
Hill, don't go away mad...just go away!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:45 PM

64. Well, they didn't pick the correct party in 2000

I mean they picked the party that successfully STOLE the election, but not the party that actually WON the election.

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Response to Z_California (Reply #64)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:52 PM

69. Good point!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:50 PM

65. Very weird. I don't usually click to see votes, but when I did just now, it said 0 recs went back

and clicked again twice and the fourth try it finally said 57, jumped from 50 that I first saw.

Just a weird glitch I noticed.

Oh, interesting info about their predictions.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:51 PM

68. Running against Bush?

That alone destroys the credibility of this. Additionally, I rather suspect that a run-off between Clinton and Bush would result in much the same result.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:59 PM

70. Incredibly misleading headline.

Surprised so many sites are running with this.
They held their first mock election in 1975. Predicting Carter over Ford in a Government Affairs Class of 400 people.

It doesn't look like there was another mock election until 2007.

http://westerncourier.com/10924/news/students-predict-election-results/

I can't find anything other than the 3 elections from '75, '07 and '11.

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Response to Action_Patrol (Reply #70)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:15 AM

86. It's just a fun experiment. Relax.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:06 PM

72. hell yeah

sanders/om or om/sanders. what an awesome progressive ticket, either one!

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #72)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:12 PM

74. Agreed.

America would have hope again.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #74)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 05:16 PM

75. much needed hope. nt

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 06:10 PM

77. While I do recommend this post, and I do hope Bernie does become POTUS,

I'm very doubtful about these Western Illinois University's predictions.

I don't see Jeb Bush getting the Republican nomination; his campaign is in disarray right now

Donald Trump and that idiot Ben Carson are far ahead of all the other GOP contenders.and either one of them has a much better chance of getting the GOP nomination than Bush.

As far as Bernie Sanders goes, I support him and have contributed to his campaign. however, unless the polls change drastically, my guess is that Hillary will likely win the nomination.

If she does become the Democratic nominee, picking Bernie as her running mate would "unite" the Democratic Party.

IMO, If she wins, and picks someone other than Bernie as her running mate, the Democratic Party would be split, and the Republicans would probably win the November 2016 election, regardless of who the GOP nominee is.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:27 AM

78. K&R nt

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:25 AM

83. I posted the same thing yesterday

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:32 AM

87. Western Illinois University Class of '73

and a Political Science grad, no less. They didn't do the survey when I was there, however, I think it started in 1975.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:44 AM

88. k&r

 

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:12 AM

89. Sanders/O'Malley has a ring to it -

I'd love to see a VP from midwest or west to balance the ticket, but O'Malley is young and has been a governor which makes him a very attractive VP candidate.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:43 AM

90. we will see

 

yep, that we will.

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:59 AM

91. Yikes!

We still have work to do to make sure this is the reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:25 PM

106. Let me guess:

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Response to merrily (Reply #106)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:28 PM

109. Party on Bernistas!

Who cares if it's real- if it makes you feel good for a while believe it.

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #109)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:31 PM

111. My guessing that Sanders won this poll = what in your mind, now?

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:35 PM

115. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

 


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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:26 PM

124. The idiots who did this mock election do not understand the rules for awarding Delegates

Under the rules for the Democratic Party, delegates are awarded proportionately. This silly but ignorant poll has Sanders winning 100% of the delegates in most states



The only way that a candidate can win 100% of the delegates in a state is if no other candidate gets 15% either in a district or statewide. The idiots who did this mock election do not understand the rules of the Democratic Primary

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #124)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:52 PM

127. So, they think that Clinton will get less than 15% in Arkansas?

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #127)

Wed Dec 2, 2015, 06:22 PM

128. This poll/mock election is completely worthless

The idiots who conducted this poll think that sanders will get most of the Texas delegates. It is sanders who has to worry about not meeting the 15% threshold

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Response to tecelote (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:49 AM

131. Lol

 

Remember?

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