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Related: About this forumHillary Clinton’s E-mail PROBLEMS Might Get Way Worse
The indestructible cockroach of a scandal hasnt died yet, no matter how many times Hillary Clinton stomps it with a sensible black pump: a new report indicates that the F.B.I. has possibly expanded their inquiryperhaps a full-blown investigationinto her potentially improper use of a private e-mail server during her time as secretary of state. Politico reports that the F.B.I. has seemingly moved past a preliminary inquiry stage and started conducting more interviews, a move that implies a full-blown investigation, according to F.B.I. former assistant director Tom Fuentes. When you have this amount of resources going into it . . . I think its at the investigative level, he told Politico.
Whereas the F.B.I. had only received a referral for investigation earlier this year (leading to a blowup between the Clinton campaign and The New York Times after the paper reported that she was being fully investigated), this time, according to Politico, the inquiry has expanded to the point that the F.B.I. is interviewing several tech people involved in the servers setup: Platte River Networks, the company hosting the server; Tania Neild, a technology broker who connected Clinton with Platte River; a cloud-storage company called Datto; and several members of Clintons staff (though exactly which and how many staffers theyre speaking to is currently unclear). Theyre also reportedly weighing an immunity deal for Bryan Pagliano, the man who oversaw the server but pled the Fifth during a September Benghazi committee hearing.
The F.B.I. did not comment to Politico on whether it had moved into a more rigorous investigation, but considering how explosive this situation is, they probably wont comment until they either choose or decline to prosecute. VF.com has reached out to Clintons campaign, and will update this post if we receive word.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/clinton-email-fbi-investigation
OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)Is there content within?
earthside
(6,960 posts)Questions focus on whether State officials improperly sent classified material.
By Rachael Bade - 11/10/15 05:14 AM EST
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-email-fbi-probe-215630
OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)I see a run-of-the-mill Politico story with their typical anonymous sources stating nothing, and an editorialist speculating a bit wildly on said nothingness.
Dog bites man. One person's "news", I guess.
Much appreciated.
okasha
(11,573 posts)including the Fibbies.
Deal with it.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Deal with it.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It's a millstone around her neck. One of many. It's not too late! We don't have to end up stuck with the liability nominee.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)on a immunity deal with Pagliano, you'll know that something substantial is coming down the pipe.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)All he was concerned with was the technical side, not the content of the emails.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)There's three ways you break our (civilian) laws against espionage:
1) Give secrets to a foreign government
2) Sell secrets
3) Be negligent in protecting secrets.
The security on Clinton's server was utterly abysmal. There was no encryption on the communication for months, the default VPN keys were left installed, and a host of other massive technical errors. Heck, even the domain name chosen was terrible and there's a typosquatter enabled by the domain name choice. They would have been much more secure using gmail.
So he's actually in legal jeopardy for his negligence.
Clinton probably can't be charged. She can argue she wasn't negligent because she relied on this dude to prevent #3, and she did not sell secrets or give them directly to a foreign government.
That doesn't mean it isn't a scandal, it just means she is very unlikely to be charged with a crime over it.
demwing
(16,916 posts)this would hurt everyone...
George II
(67,782 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)I now have a good reason to say--buh bye!
Autumn
(48,962 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Vanity Fair. LOL!
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)See, http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653
The greatest difficulty is political - how to charge the Democratic Presidential front-runner in the midst of the campaign without throwing the process into chaos?
Thanks, Hillary! You've done so much for your fellow Democrats.
BTW: Don't scoff at Vanity Fair. Along with The New Yorker, it carried some of the best coverage of the NSA Scandal.
pa28
(6,145 posts)That would certainly give an effective avenue for the hundreds of millions in super-pac attack dollars that will be used to attack her honesty and character.
Segami
(14,923 posts)FOX & Morning Joe would be headlining with it daily.
pa28
(6,145 posts)If they drag it and out and recommend indictment once she's (probably) nominated the political motivation angle is going to be totally buried by the screaming headlines.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Given the choice I'd rather have a nominee not at risk of running a national campaign while under indictment.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)at most, probably pay a fine, and the Obama DOJ will point and say "someone was held accountable! Isn't that good enough?"
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)'reportedly'
'probably'
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Bringing up Benghazi is as silly and nonsensical as saying Bernie is not a Democrat.
Midnight Writer
(25,409 posts)The same Tom Fuentes who is defending police violence across the country. He is the guy screaming at Baltimore protesters and calling out elected city officials as cowards. You can catch him on right wing media whenever they need an ex high ranking law enforcement official to defend police violence.
Please note the "weasel words"; "could see", "possibly expanded", "perhaps a full-blown investigation", "reportedly weighing an immunity deal".
Wait for more facts before taking this too seriously.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)this article isn't saying anything really new nor has added facts otherwise not known.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)She will become even more popular. They have been trying to bring her down for decades and she is the unchallenged front runner in the dem primary. If the righties keep this up the country might become in favor of ending term limits after she is elected. Vanity op from Vanity Fair.
randome
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olddots
(10,237 posts)N.T.