Berners ****please read

[Dandilions]

I think we should email Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio. He is a progressive. I was disappointed and quite surprised he endorsed Hillary Clinton two weeks ago. I think we can change his mind. Bellow is a link to his web contact page.... below that is the email I sent him moments ago. Feel free to copy and paste my email if you would like...or tell him your thoughts on the subject. Feel the Bern...this is the political revolution !! Re-post wherever...


http://www.brown.senate.gov/contact



Sen. Brown,

I have great respect for the issues for which you stand. You were a breath of fresh air fighting hard for the middle class, the working poor, the poor. I do not understand why you would not support Sen. Bernie Sanders. I would expect you to agree with the clear message Bernie is articulating . Please stand up and be counted during this Political Revolution.....taking back our Democracy from the Oligarchy...from the hard reality of a seriously out of balanced Capitalistic System. Join your former Ohio Delegation member, Nina Turner, and change your mind on your Hillary Clinton endorsement .....and endorse the true Progressive for President of the United States, BERNIE SANDERS.

[Hoyt]

1. Senator Brown knows what he's doing and has good reason to endorse Clinton.

[Dandilions]

2. ok then ...

what are these good reasons... please be clear ... thanks

[Hoyt]

7. Read or listen to his endorsement.

[Cosmic Kitten]

19. Proximity to Power

[Segami]

66. +1

Like a mind-numbing aphrodisiac.

[Le Taz Hot]

18. Staying on the good side of the Clintons. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. BINGO! Favors owed called in or favors promised!

Bill has been on the phone, no doubt about it.

[reformist2]

3. And that Nina whats-her-name had good reasons for switching her support from Hill to Bern.

I love what she did, obviously because I like Bernie.

But more so because it encourages people to rethink their current decisions, and that changing one's mind is OK!

[Hoyt]

5. They'll be some Clinton switchers too -- as Senator Brown shows.

[Ken Burch]

4. There's no good reason for a labor Dem to back HRC in the primaries. n/t.

[Hoyt]

6. How many unions have already endorsed Clinton? I'm sure some members will vote differently though.

[reformist2]

8. It would be awesome to see one of those unions officially switch their support, lol!

[Hoyt]

10. Yes it would. More likely that additional unions will back Clinton.

[Ken Burch]

9. Those were the union leadership making those endorsements.

Same people who endorsed Bill in '92 and Gore early in the cycle in '00, despite the fact that both of them had spent their entire careers pushing the Democratic Party to throw labor(and therefore all workers, since no one who works for a living ever benefits from unions being weakened or broken) under the bus.

The leadership of is always the most timid, conservative and cowardly faction in the union it leads.

BTW, you can't seriously believe your avatar there would back HRC over Bernie.

[Hoyt]

11. Leadership is elected by the membership. Yes, Woody G would know the best way forward in today's

situation.

[Ken Burch]

12. Why would he ever think backing the smug establishment candidate was the best way forward?

Woody was a grassroots fighter for the people.

[Hoyt]

14. Yeah, and he would want a Demcrat as Prez, not another George McGovern.

[Ken Burch]

56. What's a "Demcrat"?

And why are you acting like Woody would be anti-left today?

[Hoyt]

58. He would want someone with a good chance to win.

[Ken Burch]

59. Bernie is beating the Republican candidates in the polls.

He has just as good a chance to win as HRC.

[Hoyt]

60. I disagree.

[Ken Burch]

67. You disagree with the results of the polls? n/t.

[Hoyt]

15. Ask Republican Arlo who he'd support today.

[Armstead]

31. Republican Arlo isnlt his father

[Ken Burch]

57. I'd rather not. n/t.

[Dandilions]

13. Email Sen Sherrod Brown...

email link in the first post... top of page...

As Bloomberg labor reporter Josh Eidelson recently reported, there also exists a widespread “dissatisfaction or distrust” toward Clinton among AFL-CIO local and state leaders in the key early-primary state of Iowa over her promotion of the unpopular Trans-Pacific Partnership. The trade agreement is largely deemed by labor to be corporate-driven and has been likened to 1994’s North American Free Trade Agreement for its potential to drive down wages and decimate jobs. Clinton has recently begun condemning the deal, but some doubt her new stance. Sanders, on the other hand, has consistently opposed the TPP, describing it and similar trade policies as a “disaster” for the American worker.

[Sheepshank]

22. Yup...I see the negative, name calling, swarms of Bernie supporters

helping Sherrod Brown, confirm this decision was the correct decision.

Perhps a little look at Congressman John Lewis facebook page will give you an idea of whre the swarming will devolve to. This was not a particularly good idea. Bernie Supporters cannot help themselves but devolve to insults.

[Armstead]

32. It's called democracy

I suppose everyone who disagrees with the Powers the Be should just sit down and shut up?

Sounds like Rushbo to me.

I looked at Lewis Facebook page. Apart from some nevitable assholes, most of the "swarms" who "attacked him" said things like "I have always admired you and still do. However I am disappointed that you have chosen to endorse Hillary Clinton. I believe Bernie Sandetrs is the best hope...."

[Hepburn]

52. There is a huge difference, IMO, between the leadership and the members. n/t

[Trajan]

26. And you have credibility in relating who is and who is not a good liberal?

Pardon me, but, I don't believe it ...

If Hillary shares your right wing economic views, then she is far from a liberal ...

[NCTraveler]

16. Email sent.

Thanks.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. A petition would be more efficacious.

EOM

[Dandilions]

38. Great idea...show us how...

That would be great... could you lead us to getting a petition going ??

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Here

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/create-a-petition.html/?src=google_sem&campaign=create_a_petition_us_desktop_petition&gclid=CLrJ7JygjskCFYJqfgodW4EGpw

[TSIAS]

21. I disagree with Brown on this

If Bernie kept an enemies list, like Clinton reportedly does, the Ohio Senator would be a "7" since he's someone who should naturally be on Sanders' side. Probably the only endorsement that would hurt more would be Elizabeth Warren.

[brooklynite]

25. So you're suggesting he's a political coward?

[Cosmic Kitten]

23. Done! Thanks for the heads up

[George II]

24. Sherrod Brown endorsed Clinton a week or two before you even joined this site.....

...did you join just to protest his endorsement?

You sure got into the fray quickly!

[Dandilions]

37. Nope... the reason I joined was...

to give my opinion on an article which characterized Bernie as attacking H ....when all he did was talk about and draw contrast between their past voting records. It was an agenda driven article which bugged me...because it was unfair and certainly not journalism. It was the first post I made...check it out

[upaloopa]

27. Brown is in the Senate with Bernie Sanders

He is the closest to Sanders I hear tell.
He must have thought through his decision before he made it. Now you want to tell him that what ever he decided isn't as valid as what you put in your email.
I will never understand why you don't get that the majority of people want Hillary to be their President and that there is nothing wrong with their thinking processes.

[Dandilions]

36. hmmmm

They're political views and voting records are very close. What I don't understand is the snarky replies by most of the H supporters. We Bernie supporters are exercising our Democracy... organizing and applying pressure... no dirty tricks here... just gathering facts. Join our Political Revolution and take back our nation from the wealthy few... feel the BERN

[Dandilions]

42. Not true

I haven't attacked anyone. And as far as the MSM saying anything....please... you have to admit they want Hillary to win... that is painfully obvious. You should rely more on facts then ad hominem attacks....

[upaloopa]

44. as you put it not true.

I guess you are just incapable of stepping back and looking at yourself (as a group not personally)

You can accept the fact that your side has only about 25 to 30% of the base. That's all who agree with you.

People don't want you to force your so called revolution on them.

[giftedgirl77]

28. Did any of you ever consider these ppl have a good

reason not to endorse him? Maybe he's a dick & doesn't play well with others, which is kinda important with a job anywhere over a paper route.

[giftedgirl77]

29. Did you sign up for this site to bitch about how other

Dems are performing their jobs? Ppl have the nerve to talk about HRC supposedly using trolls.

[Dandilions]

35. Not bitching... just saying...

what your implying is not true. hrc supporters never give reasons for supporting her... they only give ad hominem attacks...

[giftedgirl77]

61. What's your logic from way up there on that mighty white horse of yours?

[zappaman]

30. ok. n/t

[Jewelies42]

33. I'm an Ohioan and I love Sherrod Brown

But I sure do disagree with him on this one! In all fairness, however, I think that most, if not all, Democratic Representatives will back Hilary for one good reason--she is the Democrat. I agree, Sen. Brown is a lot closer to Bernie in his political work, but even though Bernie caucuses with the Dems and is running under the "Democrat" umbrella, he is, and I think always has been, officially an "Independent" while his true definition is that of a Social Democrat. I think that the Democratic Party has become as powerful and influential as the other party, and many of our reps will have their hands tied. And Sherrod Brown is a pragmatist... he's watched the way congress has dug in their heels over President Obama's policies, trying to discredit him and substantively shutting down any form of actual governance. I would LOVE to see Bernie Sanders in the White House, but if Hilary is the candidate, I'll vote for her, too; the silver lining? That we would have a kick ass Prez and TWO excellent Senators instead of having no Hilary at all and Sherrod being one of the very few who actually work on our behalf. Either way, I think we Dems have a very, very good chance at maintaining the White House!

[Romulox]

34. It sounds to me like Sherrod knows which side of the bread is buttered. nt

[MohRokTah]

40. Spamming Sen. Brown will probably go over about as well as Twittering about...

Sanders marching with MLK.

[Dandilions]

43. Not spamming

applying good ole fashioned Democratic pressure... but nice political framing my friend... facts please

[MohRokTah]

45. No, it's definitely spamming.

Brown will never see these emails because they'll be deleted by his aids for the spam they are.

[Dandilions]

46. Not true...

Again, no matter how you choose to frame it... we are simply expressing our opinion as voters to a nationally elected official. If you call it spamming you are standing on shaky ground... facts please

[MohRokTah]

47. Trying to get hundreds of emails saying the same BS sent to a Senator?

That's astroturf spam, by definition.

[Babel_17]

49. Not really

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Sometimes one individual operates over many personas to give the impression of widespread support for their client's agenda.[1][2] Some studies suggest astroturfing can alter public viewpoints and create enough doubt to inhibit action.

Definition

Astroturfing is the use of fake grassroots efforts that primarily focus on influencing public opinion and are typically funded by corporations, and governmental entities, to form opinions.[3]

[Dandilions]

50. just for giggles

can you explain in detail what you classify as BS... thanks

[Babel_17]

48. I sent an email (nt)

[Gothmog]

51. Senator Brown made an informed and intelligent decision to endorse Sec. Clinton

Telling him that he is stupid and made a mistake is not a good way to change his mind

[Dandilions]

54. Snarky

We never said he is stupid.... yes we do think he made a mistake.... and yes... he can change his vote at the Convention...

Don't be discourage by the Snark... this is the Political revolution... taking back our Democracy from the Oligarchy... the super rich...the few...

......Hillary Rodham Clinton will begin personally courting donors for a “super PAC” supporting her candidacy, the first time a Democratic presidential candidate has fully embraced these independent groups that can accept unlimited checks from big donors and are already playing a major role in the 2016 race....

...Mrs. Clinton’s allies hope that with her support, the top Democratic super PAC, Priorities USA Action, will raise $200 million to $300 million. That is on par with what the largest Republican organizations, such as the Karl Rove-backed American Crossroads super PAC and its nonprofit affiliate, spent in 2012.

[MoonRiver]

62. She is more popular than Bernie.

MUCH more popular. Sorry but that's why she will win and not some devious, diabolical plot by the "powers that be." Sigh

[Gothmog]

65. But all of the polls are skewed

Sanders is not viable in a general election contest and viability is a proper grounds for endorsing a candidate

[Dandilions]

68. wrong again....

A new set of polls shows Hillary Clinton leading every Republican candidate – but the same set of polls shows Bernie Sanders leading by larger margins.

[eridani]

69. Because name recognition = popularity n/t

[MoonRiver]

70. Everybody knows who Bernie is: two debates + endless t.v. appearances = name recognition

That meme can only get you so far.

[eridani]

71. 2/3 of the people at my tabling event today didn't know n/t

[Gothmog]

64. Which explains why Sanders is at a whole 8% chance of being the nominee according to Predictwise

Sanders would have a better chance if someone would explain how he would be viable in a general election contest where the Kochs will be spending $887 million and the GOP candidate may be spending another billion dollars. It is hard to support a candidate who is not viable in the general election.

Maybe Senator Brown is reluctant to be endorse a campaign that can not provide a simple explanation to this question

[MoonRiver]

53. Senator Brown is a big boy.

He is perfectly capable of making up his own mind about who he will endorse for president.

[Babel_17]

55. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/

Step 1

Browse open petitions to find a petition related to your issue, and add your signature.

In case anyone forgot that the administration seems to agree that something so very similar to what's proposed in the OP is a valid form of communication.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/

I've lost track as to how many such appeals to us have been made over the years. Pretty sure that many here were signing away in opposition to invading Iraq in search of WMDs.

[Live and Learn]

63. Good idea. nt