Berners.... sign this Petition... apply Democratic pressure to Sen. Sherrod Brown

[Dandilions]

This is a Petition to get Sen. Sherrod Brown to reconsider his endorsement of Hillary.

Please recommend, tweet and post to facebook !!


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/260/199/009/

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. I was supporter #1, heh.

And I'm one of his constituents.

[Dandilions]

2. Feel the Bern

feels great to be involved!! Spread the word on the petition if you can....

[SamKnause]

3. Done

I also sent an e-mail to his office headquarters.

I live in Ohio.

[MohRokTah]

4. .

[Dandilions]

5. another fact-less post from hrc supporters

Would love to hear some facts.. some history from the Hillers... but sadly not much honest political discussion from the Hill side of the debate...

[MohRokTah]

6. Another pointless thread from a BSer. eom

[brooklynite]

8. You'd like some facts?

Okay - Sherrod Brown is a respected progressive Senator; he's intelligent enough to make his own choices about who to support (just like John Lewis). He's not a coward and he's not a sellout.

[Dandilions]

10. not those but how about..

some facts why a Progressive should vote for hrc ??

[brooklynite]

12. Pro choice, pro gay rights, pro immigration reform, pro election reform, pro criminal justice reform

pro progressive taxation...AND with the skill and resources to actually win a General Election.

[Dandilions]

20. oh really

PRO CHOICE... check ! yea!


PRO GAY RIGHTS... NOPE... Hillary Clinton didn't refrain from supporting same-sex marriage for political reasons—before last year, she earnestly believed that marriage equality should be denied to gays and lesbians.


IMMIGRATION .... NOT QUITE, BUT EVOLVING... “As to illegal aliens, we agree with you that we do not think the comprehensive health-care benefits should be extended to those who are undocumented workers and illegal aliens,” she said during a 1994 House hearing on the health-care reform proposal that she attempted to force into law as first lady, dubbed “Hillarycare.”

“We do not want to do anything to encourage more illegal immigration into this country,” Clinton said then, adding that “we know now that too many people come in for medical care, as it is.”

“We certainly don’t want them having the same benefits that American citizens are entitled to have.”

Clinton also took a blanket stance against illegal immigration — and illegal immigrants themselves — as a U.S. Senator from New York.

In a February 2003 radio interview Clinton said that she was “adamantly against illegal immigrants.”


ELECTION REFORM.... CERTAINLY NOT... Hillary Rodham Clinton will begin personally courting donors for a “super PAC” supporting her candidacy, the first time a Democratic presidential candidate has fully embraced these independent groups that can accept unlimited checks from big donors and are already playing a major role in the 2016 race....

...Mrs. Clinton’s allies hope that with her support, the top Democratic super PAC, Priorities USA Action, will raise $200 million to $300 million. That is on par with what the largest Republican organizations, such as the Karl Rove-backed American Crossroads super PAC and its nonprofit affiliate, spent in 2012.

GENERAL ELECTION.... IF-Y AT BEST....In Iowa, Republican Jeb Bush leads Clinton by 10 points in a hypothetical general-election match up among registered voters, 50 percent to 40 percent, and Donald Trump is ahead of her by seven points, 48 percent to 41 percent – essentially unchanged from the poll’s results a month ago. And Carly Fiorina leads Clinton in the Hawkeye State by 14 points, 52 percent to 38 percent.

But when Sanders is matched up against these same Republicans, his numbers are stronger: Sanders leads Trump by five points in Iowa (48 percent to 43 percent). And he narrowly trails Bush (46 percent to 44 percent) and Fiorina (45 percent to 42 percent). The same dynamic plays out in New Hampshire. Clinton leads Trump in the Granite State (48 percent to 45 percent), but she’s behind Bush (49 percent to 42 percent) and Fiorina (50 percent to 42 percent).
Winning the General...

[72DejaVu]

7. Have you guys considered taking to voters?

I've never seen a campaign spend so much time on meaningless gestures.

[Dandilions]

13. By voters do you mean...

The incredibly large crowds who show up at Bernie rallies ?? We can do both...talk to voters and apply Democratic pressure to elected officials and super delegates.... snarky still...no facts still...

[BainsBane]

16. Yeah, the ones the campaign isn't registering to vote.

[Dandilions]

21. Thanks

They will correct that

[72DejaVu]

22. The DNC is supposed to do that for them

Because, reasons.

[BainsBane]

17. It's probably better for Bernie

If they stick to what they are doing.

[brooklynite]

9. An online petition...

...I suppose that fits well with all the online polling.

If you were SERIOUS about this, you'd write a letter (or email) to Senator Brown in your OWN words. But that would take effort...

[Dandilions]

14. hmmm....

don't think we are serious huh... that's certainly not true... but thanks for your advice... have sent email... now will write a letter... as well as signing the petition... thanks brooklynite.... Go Berners!!

[Rose Siding]

11. Thanks for the reminder- been meaning to thank him

[Dandilions]

15. you're welcome...

still not sure why a Labor Progressive would support hrc ??

Economy

Her recent foray into vague populist rhetoric notwithstanding, Clinton has long nurtured close ties to the financial sector. Over the course of her political career, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and Citigroup have been among her top political donors, in addition to giving heavily to the Clinton Foundation. In October 2013, Clinton received $400,000 to speak at two Goldman Sachs events and delivered what was described as a "reassuring message" to the assembled bankers. In all likelihood, a second Clinton administration would involve the appointment of industry insiders to regulatory posts in the perpetually revolving door between Wall Street and the federal government. It's understandable then that her friends on Wall Street would be quick to shrug off her halfhearted attempt to shore up her left flank as anything but substantive. Nobody who was genuinely concerned with economic inequity would be hobnobbing with some of the same economic institutions whose reckless financial schemes helped engineer the 2008 economic collapse.

Hillary Clinton has a long history of being willing to serve the interests of large corporations. In 1976, while serving as legal counsel for the Rose Law Firm, she represented several Arkansas utilities companies that sued the state after a ballot initiative (sponsored by conservative boogeyman Acorn) passed that decreased utilities rates on Little Rock residents and increased them on businesses. In defending the utilities conglomerates, she argued that the initiative amounted to an unconstitutional seizure of property. The judge ruled in these companies' favor.

JOSEPH MULKERIN

[zappaman]

18. Ok. n/t

[NurseJackie]

19. I think it's unlikely that Senator Brown made his decision lightly.

And it's equally unlikely that a mere petition will cause him to change his mind.

Think about it. If Brown were to "change his mind", it's difficult for me to see how anyone would see that as an heartfelt and sincere endorsement of Sanders.

What's done is done. Move on. You can't change it, and even if you could, it wouldn't really be an endorsement that Sanders or his followers would be proud of.

I suspect that the true motivation for all of this is to deny an endorsement for Hillary, or to have a taunting-point about how someone had changed their mind. My best guess is that it doesn't truly matter to the petitioners if Bernie actually gets Brown's endorsement or not. Instead, they just want to take something away from Hillary. (And looking at her totals, it wouldn't matter much anyway. It wouldn't hurt Hillary, and it wouldn't help Bernie much.)

[Dandilions]

23. nice

a well thought out response from the Hill...

I disagree though... I think it's important to let elected officials like Sen Brown know that us Progressives are engaged and paying attention. if you compare the voting records of Bernie and Sherrod... they are both Progressives... particularly in Labor and Foreign policy... we are just nudging him to follow is convictions and that support for President Sanders is support for his principles which he has demonstrated through his votes in Congress.

Democratic pressure.... Go Bernie... facts are on our side... don't shy away in the face of snarkiness...

[NurseJackie]

29. Well, what have you got to lose? The worse he could do would be to say "no", or simply ignore it.

[JI7]

24. no thanks. i prefer to try to get actual votes for sanders

[Dandilions]

25. ok... but

Delegates vote... and Super delegates carry more wait... Sen. Brown is a super delegate. We can do both!!!

[JI7]

26. superdelegates can easily switch and the best way to do that is

For a candidate to actually start winning.

Brown can endorse anyone he wants as can anyone else. I think a petition for this is just stupid.and dots nothing to help Sanders

[Dandilions]

27. I disagree !!

but... support your goal to elect the only true Progressive in the running... President Bernie Sanders

[Thinkingabout]

28. The time to make the effort to secure endorsements started twenty five years ago.

Sherrod Brown isn't the only congressional member to endorse Clinton and the reasons they are giving for endorsing Clinton has to do with their knowledge of her work. Sherrod Brown would need some proof Sanders is better qualified and closer to the issues they feel are important.