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[Agschmid]

1. Here is the live stream...

http://www.cbsnews.com/live/

[Tipperary]

4. Thank you.

I am a Hillary supporter, but I want to hear what O'Malley has to say.

The whole world is going to shit. What will they all say tonight?

[Agschmid]

5. It will be interesting, and I'm sure a stark contrast to what the republicans have been saying.

[onehandle]

2. Hillary Wins!

Total shutout. I knew she would win, but that was ridiculous.

[Agschmid]

3. Don't get ahead of yourself.

[bettyellen]

6. Thanks Agschmid! Now everyone- let's play nice.

[Agschmid]

8. Yes please.

Probably going to be quite a few threads, and we will see if DU levels go into action.

[Agschmid]

7. Coverage begins now.

[Agschmid]

9. Beginning with Paris.

Moment of silence.

[onehandle]

16. 'Freedom' was savagely attacked in Paris.

No, Fox News... I mean random CBS hairdo, people were savagely attacked.

Freedom is not a flesh and blood person.

[tishaLA]

10. nice to have the moment of silence

[Agschmid]

13. It was.

It's also nice to have just there candidates, much more time for each. Better answers.

[DianeK]

11. hillary's applause

was tepid, at best

[bettyellen]

14. HA

[Metric System]

18. Complete BS.

[Hepburn]

46. Maybe it's your TV?

[bettyellen]

12. I like MOM's face. Can't help it. Looks like a nice guy.

[Agschmid]

17. He is a nice guy.

I did get a chance to meet him in Boston a week ago, good guy.

[spinbaby]

20. He got a lot of applause

More than Hillary or Bernie, I think.

[Agschmid]

22. Agree.

[restorefreedom]

58. yes i thought so too

om got the loudest applause

[one_voice]

82. I like him.

[tishaLA]

15. audience seems strongly pro Sanders

nice to have a debate on a broadcast network but i wish it were during the week instead of saturday night

[Agschmid]

19. Tweet, Instagram, Facebook.

Post and help drive the social media response to the debate.

[Hepburn]

21. IMO, there could be no applause for Hillary and a thundering ovation for Bernie...

...and the MSM would say how warmly Hillary was welcomed.

JMHO

[LovingA2andMI]

128. About Time...

Guess Debbie Wasserman Schultz could properly "stage" the audience tonight.....

[Agschmid]

23. No buzzer on this debate stage....

Just a red light.

[Agschmid]

24. Bernie Sanders "Rid our planet of ISIS"

[bettyellen]

25. I thought the first minute was supposed to be about Paris?

[Metric System]

26. BS is already talking about the economy.

[Hepburn]

29. Good....

...that is the most important issue facing the US today.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

37. Good

[Hepburn]

57. Excellent that he stated the issues that are most important to the US.

[bettyellen]

31. weird to go off topic like that, not good.

[DCBob]

36. Yeah, that was weird.

[Agschmid]

27. Hillary "Rid the world of radical jihadists"

[Agschmid]

30. She went full on security.

[6chars]

35. right answer

[RoccoR5955]

28. Doesn't the MSM already have the story that Hillary won

ready for Sunday?

[hill2016]

44. yup

it's already been written.

[firebrand80]

32. Hillary plays the commander in chief card

Smart

[Agschmid]

38. It is part of the job.

[Robbins]

33. clinton wasted no time going on war mongoring

proved me right.forget her.

[Metric System]

39. That's your takeaway?

[Agschmid]

47. She did go there.

I don't necessarily disagree with her...

ISIS cannot be contained it must be defeated.

[Agschmid]

51. Not just military force, that should be a LAST resort.

[Renew Deal]

49. Please quote the part that you find concerning.

[CoffeeCat]

67. She's a neocon.

We'd be at full blown war with her at the helm. No thanks.

[Codeine]

34. I liked Sanders' opening. nt

[GitRDun]

40. Bernie skips Paris and goes to economy...a familiar tact. n/t

[Agschmid]

41. O'Malley did the best IMO.

[Codeine]

43. Agreed. nt

[Renew Deal]

42. Sanders first answer tanked

Question was about Paris. He went off topic

[book_worm]

52. I agree.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

53. no

[NiceTryGuy]

54. He just basically conceded the election...

He just basically came out and said "I cannot be the Commander in Chief." Tonight is going to be a Hillary Clinton clinic.

[DCBob]

55. It sounded like he just tacked on the Paris comment to his original opening statement.

It didn't flow well.

[bettyellen]

71. Did not like that pivot, reminded me of when people asked about Mike Brown- and he replied....

about education opportunities. Mike Brown was dead- and enrolled.

[bettyellen]

45. I liked MOM's response a whole lot.

[book_worm]

56. He was good

[Agschmid]

62. Yup.

[book_worm]

48. Good opening statements by both HRC & O'Mally

[Cheese Sandwich]

50. Clinton vows to "root out radical jihidist ideology"?

[bettyellen]

60. they;re trying to get them to trash Obama. No one will be stupid enough.... I hope.

[Agschmid]

65. So far no one took the bait.

[Hepburn]

61. Ooooooooooooh, thought police?????

Or....the Long Island Medium?

[bettyellen]

64. thought police? are you for real?

[Hepburn]

75. I am ... the issue is whether Hillary is.

How does one route out ideology? Ideology consists of beliefs and beliefs are thoughts.

Get it yet?

[restorefreedom]

66. sounds like war drums to me. nt

[Renew Deal]

73. Did you see what happened yesterday?

France said it was an act of war. Sanders said he wants to rid the world of ISIS.

[restorefreedom]

84. there are different paths to victory

and not all of them require us traipsing around the world waging war with everyone.

[Renew Deal]

92. Sanders just said he wants to "lead an international coalition" against ISIS.

[restorefreedom]

99. the key word is "international"

it can't be a us led war of aggression like iraq

it has to be a world effort including nonviolent tools

[Renew Deal]

105. He's clearly "beating the war drums"

[restorefreedom]

110. he said he wants to defeat them

war is not the only tool in the toolbox

[Renew Deal]

124. Right. It's an international coalition of hugs.

[restorefreedom]

136. pppft. asset freezing, border closing, intelligence

no hugs needed

[LovingA2andMI]

159. Wonder how would Clinton....

Just "root out radical jihidist ideology". Will she tell them to Cut That Out?

[Agschmid]

59. Asking about Iraq vote. What went wrong?

[Codeine]

63. Questioner going after Clinton doggedly. nt

[Agschmid]

68. O'Malley "Great failing human intelligence"

[Robbins]

69. seems like o'malley is angling to be VP

going like clinton to be necon warmonger road.

[Agschmid]

72. Even a bit more so than Clinton IMO.

[elleng]

93. Seeking collaboration among other nations is going down warmonger road?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

70. Martin isn't making much sense

[spinbaby]

164. I think I'm warming up to Martin

He's doing better than I expected.

[elleng]

74. In collaboration and with alliances, MO'M, YES!

[bettyellen]

76. Climate change? And uh oh.

[Agschmid]

77. Sanders: paraphrasing

Iraq war caused the rise of ISIS

[Agschmid]

79. Follow up...

Sanders links Clinton IWR vote to ISIS.

[restorefreedom]

78. bernie went there...iwr vote...bang! nt

[Agschmid]

81. He did go there.

[pa28]

94. Good Bernie. Play offense and make her own it.

[restorefreedom]

102. now martin is chiming in

she is on the defensive now

[LovingA2andMI]

176. Yes, she is...

Martin's Bad Cop to Sanders Good Cop is for sure putting her on the defense.

[Renew Deal]

80. Sanders wants to "lead an international coalition" against ISIS.

Chickenhawk beating the war drums.

[Javaman]

87. ? How so? nt

[Agschmid]

89. She also said coalition, and she also said military as a last resort.

[flamingdem]

83. Bernie goes for it - Iraq war responsibility

Hillary better be careful here.

[Cheese Sandwich]

85. Hillary: The USA is not to blame for the rise of ISIS

[Rosa Luxemburg]

90. weaseling her way out as usual

[bettyellen]

96. LOL @ Hillary's fault.

[Hepburn]

86. Here goes the HRC hem and haw on why it really, really was OK to vote for the IWR

[Robbins]

95. she responded like a neocon

what a phony.

[Hepburn]

103. Amen to that.

I am watching her keep trying to justify being a war hawk. Makes me ill.

[book_worm]

88. Sanders recovered strongly with attack on Iraqi War and how it destabilized region.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

98. Good

[bettyellen]

107. and in doing so, ignored the earlier attacks and 9/11. which is nutty.

[Hepburn]

116. Hint:

Irag had nothing to do with 911. Got it?

[bettyellen]

152. No shit. But..... we were attacked well before we went into Iraq. Remind Bernie!

[flamingdem]

109. Here's where he can shine tonight

Let's see some truth be told

[Hepburn]

112. That was good...

...he is hitting on all cylinders!

[bettyellen]

91. Clinton: 9/11 was pre Iraq

[Agschmid]

97. Sanders: Not a fan of regime change.

[winter is coming]

187. Considering the piss-poor way multiple attempts at regime change have turned out,

I don't think anyone should be a fan of them.

[Codeine]

100. OM gets aggressive. nt

[flamingdem]

101. Regime change has unintended consequences

Point for Bernie

[6chars]

104. Boy would a republican debate tonight be different.

[Agschmid]

108. YES.

[Agschmid]

106. I gotta give it to all three...

Clearly a BIG disagreement here, but still no personal attacks. And it's like watching adults

[bettyellen]

118. DU should be so nice

[nolabear]

135. Ain't that the truth. Smarter, better informed, and believes their constituents have brains.

[Agschmid]

138. Yup.

[Codeine]

146. I'm proud of all three of them. nt

[Metric System]

111. Eye-rack and Eye-ran.

[Agschmid]

113. Sanders: ME nations need to be involved, their boots on the ground.

[firebrand80]

114. Mooslims

[Codeine]

156. It does sound a bit goofy when he says it. nt

[LovingA2andMI]

115. An Bernie Fan....

But O'Malley is looking pretty strong tonight. Which is good.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

123. Martin hasn't said much

[LovingA2andMI]

140. Actually, yes he did...

He hit on exactly why the war in Iraq was not a justified vote for Clinton. Hopefully you are recording this because if so, go back and listen to this statement. It was quite good.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

169. OK

[Renew Deal]

117. Sanders wants to get into a religious war "for the soul of Islam" with the other "Muslim countries"

Sanders is all war tonight

[bettyellen]

127. I need someone to explain to me how that would work?

[nc4bo]

179. Guessing that ME countries stand and fight their own fight and

US and other countries will provide support to the effort vs going in and engaging on the a ME country's behalf.

[restorefreedom]

119. libya...hold on everyone...nt

[Javaman]

120. Hillary just paraphrased Bernie not

[tishaLA]

121. just objectively Clinton's discussion of Jordan etc was very very good

[Agschmid]

130. Yup.

[flamingdem]

137. Yes, she came off as more knowledgeable

but she does seem defensive about her views on the ME.

Bernie has an opening, he better use it.

[bettyellen]

139. she knows the ins and outs better than anyone.

[CoffeeCat]

122. Clinton is coming off cold, guarded and she's...

...spewing talking points and political jargon.

She seems fake and robotic.

I'm not impressed.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

129. She's not very convincing

[bettyellen]

132. Not warm enough about terrorism, LOL.....okay!

[CoffeeCat]

170. Not human enough to be President.

She comes off as cold. I don't think you have to be that way. Obama doesn't. Elizabeth Warren doesn't.

[nolabear]

143. I think she's professional, detailed and impressive.

[Punkingal]

145. Agree....

She seems almost angry.

[Agschmid]

125. What did we learn from Quadaffi?

(Spelling?)

[Javaman]

134. Nothing. Libya is a mess. Nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

149. Tony Blair was a great friend of this dictator

and the USA weren't particularly bothered about him like Osama bin Ladin

[riderinthestorm]

126. Hillary sounds defensive nt

[CoffeeCat]

142. And angry. It's weird. (eom)

[nolabear]

163. She seems very serious. It's possible she's disturbed by what's gone on.

[bettyellen]

177. but she should be all warm and fuzzy and sweet.

[nolabear]

189. LOL!

[Javaman]

150. Everything she was in volved with all of these issues. And to her

They all successes. And stops short before detailing where they are today. A mess.

[Hepburn]

153. She sounds shrill...

...and she is pushing it and comes off badly.

Does not seem able to support her positions...well, they are really garbage...so not to be unexpected.

[Metric System]

174. Shrill. I loathe that word.

[bettyellen]

186. I hear a dog whistle.....

[DianeK]

166. she certainly does...

she is losing it

[Agschmid]

133. Tough question to O'Malley.

Yikes.

[book_worm]

141. He's handling it very well.

[riderinthestorm]

148. He is. Very impressive!!! nt

[Agschmid]

144. O'Malley "don't use the term boots on the ground"

Hell yah.

[Cheese Sandwich]

147. Clinton explains she delivered the Gift of Freedom to Libya but locals just couldn't handle it

[Javaman]

171. Beware of Americans baring gifts. Nt

[tishaLA]

151. MOM's answer now is implicitly at least a thoroughgoing critique of Obama admin policy

in the ME and south Asia

[Agschmid]

155. Yup.

Called out all the Obama situations.

[Cheese Sandwich]

184. O'M shows understanding that boots are human beings.

[restorefreedom]

154. bernie defending veterans

yeah!!!

[Hepburn]

165. That was great! Well done, Bernie!

[bettyellen]

167. smartest thing he has said so far.

[6chars]

157. all three very impressive

engaged, debating, informed, not a lot of grandstanding. serious.

[femmocrat]

180. We can be proud of all three of them.

No clowns on that stage.

[book_worm]

158. mother says to O'M: "My son is not a pair of boots on the ground."

[Agschmid]

168. #Truth.

[femmocrat]

160. O'Malley looking strong tonight.

Good response to whether he had enough experience in foreign policy. He deflected that nicely.

[pa28]

161. Is it "the homeland" or the "United States".

Not sure that term goes over well with Democrats.

[Hepburn]

175. Homeland -- IMO, ick! n/t

[Agschmid]

162. Clinton: "we are not at war with radical Islam"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

178. Huh?

[LovingA2andMI]

188. Say That Again!!!

HUH? What is she talking about?

[spinbaby]

183. She handled that well.

.

[restorefreedom]

172. a funny tweet to lighten it up

for just a second


Judd Legum
42s42 seconds ago
Judd Legum ‏@JuddLegum
Who do you miss the most?

RT for Jim Webb

❤️ for Lincoln Chafee

#DemDebate

[blackspade]

173. O'Malley is doing quite well.

Both Clinton and Sanders have been a tad wishy washy.
Both seem to have had a hard time getting rolling.

[Codeine]

181. Moderator is really hammering Clinton.

Or is that just me?

[flamingdem]

182. Ugh. Quoting Bush, error

[nolabear]

185. I tink, though it's a serious issue, the "take care of our vets" thing sounded like a talking point.

It was out of place, as though he needs to pulpit back to familiar territory.

[Agschmid]

190. New thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251808176