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MoonchildCA

(1,349 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:39 AM Nov 2015

O'Malley's statement comparing Clinton to Annie Oakley struck me as sexist.

Im actually a Bernie supporter, but that statement irked me a bit. She's a woman, so she's compared to the most infamous gun-toting woman in history.

I like O'Malley, and was hoping he would be a good Clinton alternative, but that statement was awkward and kind of obvious.

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O'Malley's statement comparing Clinton to Annie Oakley struck me as sexist. (Original Post) MoonchildCA Nov 2015 OP
Obama called her that in 2008. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #1
The outrage if she were called - Clint Eastwood nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #19
LOL!!! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #20
Rubbish - this was Obama's in 2008 Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #2
O'Bama baited Ferraro with it in 2008 Recursion Nov 2015 #3
blame Obama. He said it first. Is he sexist or racist.... I forget which "ist" he is guilty of. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #4
Nothing sexist. Obama also compared her to Annie Oakley in 2008. Video Catherina Nov 2015 #5
Yes, by Obama or O'Malley it's a sexist statement. MoonchildCA Nov 2015 #11
Would you have preferred they compare her to John Dillinger instead? Catherina Nov 2015 #13
Hillary plays the gender card all the time... Hepburn Nov 2015 #6
She reminded us tonight Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #15
Annie Oakley could out shoot 99% of men. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #7
You have a point, but sexist, nonetheless. MoonchildCA Nov 2015 #12
It's Obama's comment. Agschmid Nov 2015 #8
So he's copying President Obama? It worked so well for him? I don't know about it being "sexist" Cha Nov 2015 #17
Oakley was famous, not infamous. Ino Nov 2015 #9
You're right, I can accept that... MoonchildCA Nov 2015 #10
So it would not have been sexist... Ino Nov 2015 #14
Yeah...that one was a little out there. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #16
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #18

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
2. Rubbish - this was Obama's in 2008
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:40 AM
Nov 2015

Clinton was pretending to be the gun lover when she was in PA

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. O'Bama baited Ferraro with it in 2008
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:40 AM
Nov 2015

She wound up having to leave the campaign.

Call it a meta-elbow.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. Nothing sexist. Obama also compared her to Annie Oakley in 2008. Video
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:43 AM
Nov 2015

Barack Obama: Hillary talking like she's Annie Oakley



The point is right on.

MoonchildCA

(1,349 posts)
11. Yes, by Obama or O'Malley it's a sexist statement.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:17 AM
Nov 2015

It is said simply because she is a woman. You would never hear a man compared to Annie Oakley.
And I voted for Obama, in the primaries and general, and I won't vote for her in this primary--though I'll succumb in the general if I have to...

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
13. Would you have preferred they compare her to John Dillinger instead?
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:07 AM
Nov 2015

I don't see any offense in it. If O'Malley had compared Sanders to Dillinger, a gunslinger of Sanders' same sex, would that be sexist?

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
6. Hillary plays the gender card all the time...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:45 AM
Nov 2015

...that's OK, but calling her a female gunfighter is not?

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
15. She reminded us tonight
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:38 AM
Nov 2015

that she gets contributions from women. ... As if the other two don't.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. Annie Oakley could out shoot 99% of men.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:45 AM
Nov 2015

She is a popular figure in history. I think it was actually complimentary, even if it was meant as a jab.

MoonchildCA

(1,349 posts)
12. You have a point, but sexist, nonetheless.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:22 AM
Nov 2015

She complains that Bernie's shouting comment was sexist, which it was not. It was consistent with what he has been saying all along. She was "pulling the sex card," if you like. But comparing the only female candidate to Annie Oakley--whether Obama said it first or not--is sexist. If she was male, the comparison would not have been made.

Cha

(320,565 posts)
17. So he's copying President Obama? It worked so well for him? I don't know about it being "sexist"
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:52 AM
Nov 2015

but Hillary is certainly allowed to change her mind on Sensible Gun Laws.. especially after all the Violence by Gun Massacres that have blasted our Nation since Obama has been President.

MoonchildCA

(1,349 posts)
10. You're right, I can accept that...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:04 AM
Nov 2015

...bad wording on my part; she was famous and not infamous.

But still, even if Obama said it first, my knee-jerk reaction says it's sexist. I doubt any man has ever been compared to Annie Oakley on the political stage. It was simply because they are both women. Call me sensitive; it was my initial reaction.

That being said, I didn't feel Bernie's "shouting" comment was sexist at all. I felt that Clinton trying to claim it as that was even more sexist, when he had been using that argument all along.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
14. So it would not have been sexist...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:50 AM
Nov 2015

if he'd referred to her as "Buffalo Bill"?

What if he had said, "Hillary dances around issues like Ginger Rogers"... would that be sexist? Would he have to say "like Fred Astaire" to be PC?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. Yeah...that one was a little out there.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:40 AM
Nov 2015

Especially given O'Malley's own "Dirty Harry" policing policies in Baltimore.

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