Ok folks. Bernie put it to bed.

[boston bean]

He had no answer for what he thinks Hillary has done for wall street in return for any personal donations they made.

There was silence. He had nothing. It's all a bunch of blubbering bullshit when the rubber hits the road.

[DURHAM D]

1. Also, he did not answer the crisis management prep question.

And, he didn't respond to the question about his plan to shut down a One Trillion Dollar industry.

He seemed a little off balance tonight.

[Eric J in MN]

5. Yes he did.

Bernie Sanders said that he wrote a bill to fix the VA, but it didn't pass. That was a crisis. He returned with a compromise bill which passed.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. Hillary was floundering - she should be called out for bringing 9/11 into the conversation

[DURHAM D]

8. .

[boston bean]

2. Ayup.

[Electric Monk]

33. Did you just give yourself an Amen? Classy. nt

[boston bean]

34. Always attributing the worst traits on people.

It was simply posted in the wrong place.

[Electric Monk]

35. Where was the right place? You posted what you posted where you posted. nt

[boston bean]

36. Wow what is the the inquisition?

It was meant as a response to the first post if you absolutely must know.

[ismnotwasm]

39. Holy shit this hilarious!

I'm gonna reply to myself to see if I get scolded

[ismnotwasm]

40. Ismnotwasm you replied to yourself

What the hell is wrong with you

[ismnotwasm]

41. Oops, It was a simple mistake

Don't let it happen again.

[boston bean]

42. It really made him very very angry it seemed. Weird! nt

[willvotesdem]

3. Are you serious? He was supposed to say

"I think she is corrupt and accepts what are legal bribes."

That's what most Americans know, he didn't have to say it.

[Evergreen Emerald]

4. And his opening statement was odd given the entro that they were going to give a statement regarding

the Paris tragedy.

[bravenak]

7. Nothing but a flushed face.

[riversedge]

9. Wonder if he was feeling ok tonight?

[bravenak]

11. I never thought about it that way. I hope he feels better soon. I thought his voice was cracking a

bit. I just got over this terrible cold myself.

[Beausoir]

10. Honest to gawd...the drooling and the spittle from him....

Dude needs to go to bed.

[bravenak]

12. Could be that he caught this same cold I have.

I was very flushed and red. I'm black but I really looked red. Like I was in a sauna. Sweating, irrttated, yelling at people for no reason, I was a mess.

[Beausoir]

13. Take care. My fam has the same nasty cold.

[bravenak]

14. I feel their pain. I hope you guys get better. SOON

[okasha]

45. I hope you all feel better.

Colds are nasty; there's really nothing you can do for them except rest.

[bravenak]

46. Thank you. This bed is helping me so much.

[Cha]

16. Jury Results..

On Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:18 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Honest to gawd...the drooling and the spittle from him....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=810743

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is oot, posting something like this about any of our candidates is low, even for GDP. This is the kind of rhetoric the Republicans use against each other, DU is better than this. Please hide.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:32 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disgusting. Take this shit back to whatever cave it came from.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Rude, obnoxious, and annoying. The poster may want to take his/her own advice.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Thin skinned
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Look Bernie had his chance, no one can say he didn't get a fair shot, but it is what it is.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Unfortunately, I've seen worse directed at Hillary.. and it's allowed to stand. If you don't like what the poster's impression was.. then debate it.

DU has been full of what the repubs would use against her.. Did you alert on that? Just sayin'.

[Bread and Circus]

22. Your post is crap. Bottom of the barrel crap.

[bravenak]

32. It was jury results.

[eggplant]

19. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:18 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Honest to gawd...the drooling and the spittle from him....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=810743

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is oot, posting something like this about any of our candidates is low, even for GDP. This is the kind of rhetoric the Republicans use against each other, DU is better than this. Please hide.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:32 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disgusting. Take this shit back to whatever cave it came from.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Rude, obnoxious, and annoying. The poster may want to take his/her own advice.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Thin skinned
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Look Bernie had his chance, no one can say he didn't get a fair shot, but it is what it is.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Unfortunately, I've seen worse directed at Hillary.. and it's allowed to stand. If you don't like what the poster's impression was.. then debate it.

DU has been full of what the repubs would use against her.. Did you alert on that? Just sayin'.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[rbrnmw]

44. You should have self deleted this comment

Btw I support Hillary but this is uncalled for.

[Bread and Circus]

15. hah I thought he hit it out of the park.

If u don't think wall street doesn't expect something for all that Clinton cash you are naive.

[JonLeibowitz]

17. I have a simple answer: The credit card bankruptcy bill which the big financial companies wanted

Hillary Clinton flip-flopped (surprise!) on this issue. For the average American it was a terrible piece of legislation. But her corporate masters loved it, I am sure. Elizabeth Warren comments:

[Eric J in MN]

51. Yeah, I also wish Sanders had answered with that.

Obama made an issue of Hillary Clinton's 2001 Bankruptcy Bill vote when they debated 8 years ago.

[jfern]

18. He mentioned that she opposes Glass Steagall

[Lodestar]

20. ...and her plan "weak tea". n/t

[BainsBane]

24. But what did SHE say about Glass Steagall?

[jfern]

26. That she opposes it

[BainsBane]

27. She said it could be part of a solution but it does nothing to address

the problems that caused the 2008 collapse, which is exactly what Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman says. Glass-Steagall, as Elizabeth Warren has said, serves as a convenient trope for talking about economic issues with the public, but it is not a remedy to even a fraction of the financial problems taking place today. Bernie loves simple talking points, Glass-Steagall, Citizens United, but the fact is those issues involve far more. C United could be struck down tomorrow and we would still be facing a political system influenced by incredible levels of money. There are multiple Supreme Court decisions that have led to the current problem, starting with Buckley. Similarly, reimposing Glass-Steagall would do nothing about corporations like AIG and Lehman Brothers. It doesn't address the shadow banks that brought about the 2008 collapse. Political tropes are not effective policy positions. This is not 1933. A law from nearly a century ago can't begin to solve all the problems in the financial system today.

[jfern]

28. The original Glass Steagall addresses some of the problems

And Senator Warren's 21st century Glass Steagall is updated to also address the others.

[Hekate]

29. Krugman likes HRC's plans, but you can tell that most people find the concepts too difficult...

...which is why they revert to tropes for jumping up and down on Hillary. She wants reform, top to bottom. She has said so. A Nobel Prize winning economist has endorsed her ideas. But all we get from her opponents is "Dur, she's owned by Wall Street."

[JDPriestly]

21. Face it! Hillary has not done that much at all.

She did, however, preside over the State Department during the negotiationof the TPP and she has advocated for H1B visas that lower wages for big corporations.

[BainsBane]

25. If she hasn't done much

Bernie has done nothing. She has an extensive resume, and while Bernie supports the Wall and the Minutemen, the Democratic Party does not. You will need to go to the GOP for support on that one. There is no way the Democratic Party will support a nativist platform, not in this century.

Oh, BTW, Bernie has repeatedly voted for HIB visas.

[beam me up scottie]

30. Ummm, Hillary voted FOR that wall with Mexico, Bernie opposed it:

More border patrolling on both Mexican AND Canadian borders

Q: None of the 9/11 terrorists entered the US through the Mexican border. Why build a wall there in the name of national security? You voted in favor of the border wall. Why on the Mexican border and not on the Canadian border?

A: I do favor much more border patrolling and much more technology on both of our borders, and in certain areas, even a physical barrier, because I think we’ve got to secure our borders. That has to be part of comprehensive immigration reform. I have championed comprehensive immigration reform, and it includes starting with securing our borders in order to give people the support they need to come over and support us when it comes to having a pathway to legalization. We all know that this has become a contentious political issue. We want to work in a bipartisan way to have comprehensive reform--employer verification, more help for local communities so that they can pay for schooling and hospital and other expenses that they have to bear because of the immigration crisis.

Source: 2007 Democratic primary debate on Univision in Spanish , Sep 9, 2007

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Immigration.htm

Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border.

Within 18 months, achieves operational control over U.S. land and maritime borders, including:

systematic border surveillance through more effective use of personnel and technology; and
physical infrastructure enhancements to prevent unlawful border entry

Defines "operational control" as the prevention of all unlawful U.S. entries, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, narcotics, and other contraband.

Proponents support voting YES because:

It is obvious there is no more defining issue in our Nation today than stopping illegal immigration. The most basic obligation of any government is to secure the Nation's borders. One issue in which there appears to be a consensus between the Senate and the House is on the issue of building a secure fence. So rather than wait until comprehensive legislation is enacted, we should move forward on targeted legislation which is effective and meaningful. The legislation today provides over 700 miles of two-layered reinforced fencing, and for the rest of the border provides a virtual fence, via integrated surveillance technology.

Opponents support voting NO because:

Just to build the fence is going to cost us at least $7 billion. Where is the money coming from to pay for it? How much is it going to cost to maintain this 700-mile fence? Who is going to do it? This bill contains no funding.

This bill also ignores real enforcement measures, like hiring more Border Patrol personnel, and instead builds a Berlin Wall on our southern border. So long as employers need workers in this country, and while our immigration systems impede rather than facilitate timely access of willing workers to those opportunities, undocumented immigration will never be controlled.
Walls, barriers, and military patrols will only force those immigrants to utilize ever more dangerous routes and increase the number of people who die in search of an opportunity to feed and clothe their families.

Reference: Secure Fence Act; Bill H R 6061 ; vote number 2006-446 on Sep 14, 2006

http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Bernie_Sanders_Immigration.htm

And your claim that Bernie "supports the Minutemen" is disingenuous, this is the legislation he voted for (along with 75 Democrats):

None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to provide a foreign government information relating to the activities of an organized volunteer civilian action group, operating in the State of California, Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona, unless required by international treaty.

36. H.AMDT.971 to H.R.5441 An amendment regarding funding limitation on volunteer surveillance on the border.
Sponsor: Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] (introduced 6/6/2006) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 6/6/2006 House amendment agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Kingston amendment (A036) Agreed to by recorded vote: 293 - 107 (Roll no. 224).

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HZ00971:

[JDPriestly]

48. Watch the videos of Bernie as mayor of Burlington in the 1980s. Available from Mother Jones

and Youtube.

Then note that Bernie has been in Congress since at least 1992.

Bernie has had positions in which the burden of serving the public and pulling people with different interests and views were central to his success and re-election.

Ib other words, Bernie has political experience with managing in an executive roll as well as in a role in which his success depended on getting results for constituents by working with others who did not agree with him. The voters have approved of his performance in both roles.

Hillary has no experience in an executive role in which her performance and her success were proven by a vote in an election.

Hillary has very little experience in Congress..

Those are historical facts.

Bernie wins hands down in the contest for experience. And the fact that Bernie has been re-elected over and over proves that his voters have been pleased with him and what hehas gotten done.

Feel the Bern!

[cascadiance]

49. Tell me how Bernie supports H-1B more than Hillary does here!!!

She EXPLICITLY talks about supporting H-1B Visas!!!

Bernie has "repeatedly voted for H1B visas?" WHERE!! First you call him anti-immigrant for voting against some loaded immigration bills that he's explained his vote against them BECAUSE they had "guest labor" program riders like H-1B in them!

And now you are trying to say his vote for IMMIGRATION bills are votes "for H-1B", when he was voting for the immigration parts of it, NOT the NON-immigration pieces "guest labor" programs in them that he's had to weigh when that crap gets put in to bills by Republicans like Orrin Hatch and corporate owned Democrats like Schumer and likely Hillary Clinton based on her clear comments given in this quote here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/05/25/this-is-a-massive-effort-to-attract-cheap-labor-why-sen-bernie-sanders-is-skeptical-of-guest-workers/

Bernie has consistently spoken out against H-1B and H-2B and if he's voted for SOME immigration bills that have this guest labor baggage in it, there's no way you can prove he was voting FOR the H-1B, etc. parts of those bills and not the immigration parts of them, despite every effort the disinformation campaign is also trying to make out his vote against some of these bills because of their guest labor amendments in them as being somehow "anti-immigration".

[Cha]

23. No surprise there.

[Hekate]

31. His first answer to the first question kind of shocked me. He had to know Paris would be foremost...

... in everyone's mind, and it was. But Bernie trotted out his standard stump speech on the economy. Eh? It was like he hadn't even heard the moderator.

Foreign policy is important, to put it mildly. And it is not even on his radar.

We can't have a one-trick pony in the White House.

[KittyWampus]

38. One-trick pony is exactly what Bernie is. He's had the same schtick for decades-

never deviates. It's why he is losing and will lose. He's too old to really change gears now.

[okasha]

47. It's not his age.

It's his inflexible mindset, which seems to have been lifelong.

[Gothmog]

50. I did not expect an answer

[orpupilofnature57]

52. Still trying to will it without explanation .