Best comment of last nights debate

[NorthCarolina]

From my perspective, this says it all.

Sanders: “I am not asking Wall Street or the billionaires for money,” Sanders proclaimed. “I will break up these banks. Support the community banks and credit unions. That's the future of America.”

“I have never heard a candidate—never—who has received huge amounts of money from oil, from coal, from Wall Street, from the military industrial complex, not one candidate—'oh, these campaign contributions will not influence me. I’m going to be independent.'

"Well, why do they make millions of dollars of campaign contributions? They expect to get something. Everybody knows that. Once again, I am running a campaign differently than any other candidate. We are relying on small campaign donors, 750,000 of them, 30 bucks a piece. That's who I'm indebted to,”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/14/hillary-says-wall-street-supports-her-because-of-9-11.html

[canosoviejo]

1. I'm with you 100% (nt)

[roguevalley]

18. anyone who thinks that there isn't quid pro quo

hasn't paid attention or been alive the last 45 years. no rich person is generous. they expect something back times ten. anyone who doesn't get that amazes me.

[daleanime]

2. K&R.....

[bigwillq]

3. K and R (nt)

[Cheese Sandwich]

4. Hillary shouldn't whine and play victim so much when people point out her money sources

SANDERS: I have never heard a candidate never, who has received huge amounts of money from oil, from coal, from Wall Street, from the military industrial complex, not one candidate say, oh, these campaign contributions will not influence me. I'm going to be independent. Well, why do they make millions of dollars of campaign contributions? they expect to get something. Everybody knows that.

Once again, I am running a campaign differently than any other candidate. We are relying on small campaign donors, 750,000 of them, 30 bucks a piece. That's who I'm indebted to.

CLINTON: Well John, wait a minute. Wait a minute, he has basically used his answer to impune my integrity. Let's be frank here.

SANDERS: No, I have not.

CLINTON: Oh, wait a minute, senator. You know, not only do I have hundreds of thousands of donors, most of them small. And I'm very proud that for the first time a majority of my donors are women, 60 percent.

[peacebird]

6. Wait, what the eff? She actually said she's 'proud' that the majority of her donors are women?

Seriously? Good grief.....

[Cheese Sandwich]

10. Hiding behind women and 9/11 attacks to justify her huge money from Wall Street

Lame move.


By itself sure it's OK to be proud of getting support from women but using it as a shield to evade other questions is kind of lame.

[peacebird]

11. I thought the 9-11 deflection was stupid, but adding in the gender card too? #EpicFail

[NorthCarolina]

25. I agree, I bet she wishes she hadn't gone there

especially on the 9/11 schtic. The gender card is pretty much her calling card though so that didn't really surprise me on that count.

[ChiciB1]

40. I Doubt She Thinks It Will Hurt Her In Any Way...

She KNOWS where her support is and how very effective and how very POWERFUL they are! Unless we take Bernie's advice and actually start a Political Revolution, she can skate her way into the WH.

You CAN NOT watch ANY TV unless it's an alternative channel and hear ANYTHING but commentators talking about anyone else other than her as the Democratic nominee! Bernie is right, TURN OFF THE TV! But it ain't gonna happen and SHE knows it. Our Democratic Congress knows it and only a very few are willing to go against her.

I don't want to use the words I feel inside my heart, I know I'll be banned from DU and even that is scary, but I can say that I do believe there are very few in power who will go against her in any serious way. Yes, it is all about MONEY and those of us who have been drained and are struggling don't seem to matter.

BUT I REMAIN ON BERNIE'S SIDE! I WILL KEEP FIGHTING!

[AlbertCat]

63. she can skate her way into the WH.

She's winning on name recognition. It becomes more obvious the more time goes on.

[ChiciB1]

68. Basically My Point Too... It DOES Seem To Me

that we're pretty insignificant. Use whatever name you want to call it, I'm just not seeing much that looks like Democracy. Just saying that makes me feel awful and I have a huge pit in my stomach!

[fbc]

20. But that's misleading. The majority of her money doesn't come from women.

Or she would have said that. What are the real numbers?

She said the majority of her donations are from small donors and we know that is less than 20% of her actual total. What percentage of her money did the female donors contribute? Probably around the same.

[rhett o rick]

44. Of course it's misleading. Anything to win. nm

[cascadiance]

60. And it is the PAC money that aren't part of direct donations that are more of a measure...

... as to how much money is being spent to support or take down a candidate, even if it is not considered as direct contributions to a campaign. That was what Citizen's United was all about and what makes it such a big factor in elections now, even if candidates can make a claim that they aren't getting "that much" from big money sources (when THEY ARE, but in ways not being measured when they are going to "independent" PACs).

McCutcheon freed overall limits to the total amount of money one can spend in one election collectively directly to all candidates, but one still has limits per candidate of $2,700k. That allows rich people to basically donate money to all of the "big money" candidates they want to donate to, and not just a few of them to keep their total contributions numbers under a certain amount. That kind of disguises contributions as well, as it is the collective amounts of money from a lot of big money donors that can now donate large amounts as a big pool of wealthy donors than they did before.

McCutcheon is probably a big factor in addition to Citizen's United in the number of endorsements that some candidates get and others don't, and is likely reflecting how much the candidates work for big money interests.

[homegirl]

32. Just a reminder of the Facts of Political Life.

People, not PAC's or corporations that contribute to candidates also vote for those candidates. Which is why Sec. Clinton gave a shoutout to the voting, contributing women voters of America.

[a la izquierda]

43. She will never get a penny from this woman.

I don't care if she's the nominee.

[LovingA2andMI]

54. That makes Two...

Of Us Chicks!

[bread_and_roses]

61. Nor this woman

I am of HRC's generation and I will never, ever give her one cent or one vote.

[MisterP]

49. whole bindersfull!

[AlbertCat]

62. She actually said she's 'proud' that the majority of her donors are women?

If corporations are people, my friend, then maybe some of them are female.

[sabrina 1]

64. This woman donates to Bernie!

[AlbertCat]

67. This woman donates to Bernie!

So does this man.

[SoapBox]

8. She was so lame.

And will try anything and say anything, in her desperation to win.

Not...Good...Enough, Hill.

[malthaussen]

12. Eh, but she's right, after all

Let us not be naive, or disingenuous. I hope Bernie cleans her clock, but he did impugn her integrity. That the impugnment may be fair is another issue, and one much more difficult to prove in a court of law.

-- Mal

[Cheese Sandwich]

14. Pointing out that companies give money because it influences politicians....

That's impugning integrity?.... OK then we need more impugning.

[PosterChild]

38. If one has integrity, one does not...

..?.allow it to be an influence. So, yes, he impugned her integrity.

[Demeter]

15. And so he should--and so do we all who believe you get what you pay for

especially when you are a big, multinational corporation.

[Jack Rabbit]

17. It is impossible to impugn Hillaty's integrity

No one who takes money from Wall Street criminals has any integrity to impugn.

[Thespian2]

52. Yowser!!!

What you said...+++++++++++++++

[ms liberty]

21. But...

Only insofar as he called out every other politician. It was not directed solely at Hillary.

[Live and Learn]

31. Butt... Everything is about Hillary all the time. nt

[dorkzilla]

33. Did you hear how she opened up her closing statement?

“I heard a lot about me...”

The woman is pure ego.

[Live and Learn]

35. Yep! nt

[daybranch]

57. this election is about us and Bernie is us.

Bernie says what we all know from decades of watching our government help big business and fight unions and class actions etc., This truth is inconvenient for many and they prefer to support their own lack of knowledge rather than confront the problem. These people who infect the democratic party with their willingness to accept authority no matter how much that authority walks on them are called neoliberals and they are not really democrats or even supporters of democracy. They ignore the control of Hillary and other candidates of both major parties and there fore do not support democracy. They scream party loyalty above all to try to prevent any moves to restore democracy as a value of any party. I am a progressive and I will vote in the fashion which best will advance democracy. Democracy first, democrat party second. Go Bernie!

[NorthCarolina]

37. It's the 800 lb gorilla in the room, that which shall remain unspoken amongst DC insiders.

Yet Bernie spoke truth to power here in a way that has never happened before in American politics. Newsflash America, your complete system of government is corrupt and built on graft from moneyed interests. Trading votes for gold. This is YUUUGGGEEE!

[rhett o rick]

45. She relinquished her integrity in 2002. nm

[Jack Rabbit]

16. But, but, but . . . Hillary won the debate

We know because the "insiders" say so. Don't you have any respect for the authority of authoritarians like DWS or Jon Cowan?

[Snow Leopard]

29. and Hillary plays

the gender card!

It will be a crying shame if Sanders doesn't get to be the next President.

[Faux pas]

5. Kickin'

[antigop]

7. k&r nt

[AzDar]

9. Bernie!!

[appalachiablue]

13. Teddy Roosevelt condemned corruption of the political system by Big Corporate Money, in 1905

[azmom]

19. Bernie is not for Sale and that's why we

Love him. He belongs to us.

[GummyBearz]

22. I was unable to watch the debate last night, could you please

Could you please give me an approximate time for when Bernie said this? I have been trying to find it on youtube but no success. If you have a direct link, even better. I just want to watch it for myself. Thank you in advance

[peacebird]

28. This has a link to the transcript

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251811533

And here is a nice summary
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251811505

[mountain grammy]

23. The saying used to be "if it's good for GM, it's good for America"

Well that hasn't been the case. I want a non corporate candidate, for a change.

[daybranch]

58. As a son of the mountains myself, I too am impressed by Little Abner

Al Capp did a wonderful job in explaining politics and control by the rich and their disdain for the poor. But it has gotten even worse since the movie was made.

[Cosmic Kitten]

24. Wall St made Hillary a millionaire.

[Duval]

26. K&R!!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

27. She keeps defending the banks too.

[EndElectoral]

30. Thought O'Malley's comment about boots on the ground was the best.

I thought Bernie was terrific last night, and that quote above was spot on, but O'Malley stopped the show when he said they're not "boots on the ground", they're people.

It really made me realize that these kind of phrases like "boots on the ground" minimize that they are people with lives, not just armed machines. That going to war is easy to do. Getting out of it without a lot of "boots on the ground" being lost is not so easy.

[LovingA2andMI]

55. O' Malley would make a Great VP Choice....

And he sure did step up in the debate to warn a good look in that direction for the V.P. Spot with Bernie!

[AlbertCat]

65. O' Malley would make a Great VP Choice....

He'd be a great prez..... tho' I like Sanders better. Both are superior to a smug completely corporate Dem.

[LovingA2andMI]

66. Agreed...

[gordyfl]

34. Best Comment - "Shouting at Each Other"

Last edited Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)

The topic was gun control. I thought this comment by Bernie Sanders was pretty darn good, even though much of the audience may have missed it:


BERNIE SANDERS: "...people all over this country, not you Secretary Clinton, are shouting at each other..."

[rhett o rick]

46. Drat, she couldn't use the gender card. nm

[Enthusiast]

36. Kicked and recommended!

[INdemo]

39. I was just over at the MSNBC website just to check out debate remarks

And who do they have to counter Bernie's remarks,Hillary's campaign manager and of course he stood up for her but boy he struggled,stammered,paused took a few deep breaths and lied.

Hillary Clinton must think voters are stupid...This really reminded me of something Romney would have said or any Republican would say knowing the media would cover them.just like Hillary knew the media would be in her corner to cover for her BS lies.


What did she say "He has basically used his answer to impugn my integrity,” after Sanders said "financial institutions “know what they’re going to get” in exchange for their campaign contributions."

Ok Hillary again do you think voters are stupid?.

Hillary is running her campaign like a Republican would because she can lie about issues and facts and her campaign knows they have CNN,MSNBC,CBS, ABC to cover her tracks. These cover ups by the media are usually reserved for Republicans but not this election cycle.

How does a candidate feel as if they have accomplished a real feat when an election is purchased and delivered gift wrapped.
Is the really a political accomplishment?

I think Hillary is looking at another 2008

[LovingA2andMI]

56. Oh....

It's beginning to look a lot like 2007/2008 -- which is great right now for Bernie!

[cui bono]

41. That's why when all is said and done, Bernie is who we NEED in the White House.

Period.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

42. It seemed to me

that Hillary got a lot more air time, especially when rebutting either of the guys.

[rhett o rick]

47. Despite what her supporters try to say, she has the copr-media on her side. Along with the

corp-everything.

Democrats support unions while Republicons support Corporations. Maybe no one told her.

[retrowire]

48. THEY EXPECT TO GET SOMETHING

Remember that!

[Major Hogwash]

50. It was an outstanding comment of fact!

After years of complaining that Republicans were guilty of accepting money from corporations, Hillary became one of them.
Sarah Silverman is right -- if Hillary had to wear a suit like NASCAR drivers do, she would have corporate logos sewn everywhere on her outfit!!

Bernie is a man of the people and only accepts donations FROM people!!!

Think about it, which person would you trust in the White House, a sponsor of the corporations, or Bernie?
The answer is obvious!!!!!!!!!

[merrily]

51. Bernie Damn Sanders, totally in the pocket of Big Voter.

(Psst. the last e in an Italian name is usually silent)

[BeanMusical]

53. Kick and R

[burrowowl]

59. Right on!