Can anyone really imagine Bernie Sanders in the White House?

[jhart3333]

Wapo opinion piece that seems to get it wrong, even the day of the debate.

Be sure to read the comments. Cheered me right up. Especially this one:

"Ok, I am in Iowa and I have ONE friend supporting Hillary in the caucus. NO one else is. Even my book club of women are all supporting Bernie."

Oh yes, I can imagine Bernie in the White House.

ETA: Let's call this my first OP(although it isn't). I've been a lurker forever and a rare poster more recently. Thanks for all the K&R's!

[putitinD]

1. I can

[sabrina 1]

105. Definitely can see Benie in the WH.

[philosslayer]

2. I can

In say, February 2017, when President Clinton invites him for a visit. I'm sure it will be a very nice photo-op.

[MissDeeds]

31. In your dreams

[roguevalley]

33. I can easily. I dream about it too. No one I know

says they will vote for her with some saying they might not be able to vote for a president this year if its her. He who laughs last, laughs best. Might way to put the rolling on the floor emoji away yet.

[MissDeeds]

52. No, I won't put the emoji away

and you need to get off your soapbox. Any time a Hillary supporter dismisses Bernie's chances of winning the presidency and makes a snarky, disparaging comment, he or she is asking for a retort. I am tired of Bernie's candidacy being ridiculed and dismissed. If you are a Bernie supporter, you should be too.

[demwing]

94. You two are on the same side

Go back and re-read the posts

[demwing]

95. You two are on the same side

Please re-read the posts

[Hiraeth]

46. in -my- nightmares

[MissDeeds]

55. +1000 n/t

[Luminous Animal]

75. So, if he wins the primary, you won't vote for him?

[Hiraeth]

76. ? someone is confused.

[Luminous Animal]

77. You said you can only imagine Bernie in the White House as president "in your nightmares"

Just curious if you would vote for that "nightmare" if he wins the primary.

[Hiraeth]

79. please, re-read the subthread. never mind, breakdown below:

Bernie visiting Hillary in the White House = in their dream/in my nightmare. capiche?

[okasha]

119. Why do you think she wouldn't invite him?

They're friends.

[LovingA2andMI]

32. You Got Jokes....

[daleanime]

37. If Hillary was elected, and that's a BIG if......

she would have too many wars to attend to to enjoy a brunch with Bernie.

[Hortensis]

60. Imagining is irrelevant. That Foolish, empty-headed little man W was our president when sworn in.

Bernie is many times as competent even unprepared because he isn't a deluded social conservative who believes all info contradicted by the Bible is nonsense and that God was directing him through his gut.

[rhett o rick]

82. She won't invite him for a visit. She will be figuring out how to frack SS and Medicare.

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She will be looking to cut more taxes for her close friends in the 1%. She will be drafting up more trade agreements that enslave us.

She will let Chevron frack us to death.

[MissDeeds]

93. Well said n/t

[brooklynite]

3. Pauline Kael: "How did Nixon win? Nobody -I- know voted for him!"

[cantbeserious]

4. Absolutely - Without Doubt - Without Question - Without Reservation

eom

[Cosmic Kitten]

5. democratic socialist... in the Public's Capital Residence!!!11!1!1

GASP! NOOOOOOOO!

Keep those filthy unwashed masses
from their own Government!

[Hepburn]

6. Totally! n/t

[Duckhunter935]

7. I can

[putitinD]

8. I couldn't imagine GWB in the white house, but it happened twice

[Hydra]

23. He didn't get there legally, so your instinct was not incorrect

[Jim Lane]

45. Well, in 1980, I couldn't imagine Reagan in the White House.

More recently there were plenty of people who couldn't imagine a black guy with the middle name "Hussein" in the White House.

And, less recently, I think there were people who couldn't imagine a Catholic in the White House.

All these preconceptions about the President's demographics or ideology are valid -- right up until the voters say otherwise.

[Samantha]

83. I always considered him as "occupying" the Oval House

never having earned it legitimately.

Sam

[Segami]

9. People seem to have forgotten...

how LOW the bar was dropped after George W Bush.


In response to your question......a definite YES!

for Bernie!

[arcane1]

10. With ease n/t

[CJCRANE]

11. Yeah, why not! nt

[Weidman]

12. Yes, I can. Easily.

[MisterP]

13. the "imagining" thing is an interesting angle--I'd say that it's an Oval OFFICE

not a playpen or place to meet donors

[Attorney in Texas]

14. A decade ago, those who can't see Sanders in the White House were telling us we wouldn't see a Black

president in our lifetime.

[NRaleighLiberal]

15. I can imagine enjoying President Sanders. And tolerating

President Clinton.

[TDale313]

16. Yep, absolutely. n/t

[merrily]

17. Yes, we can!

[840high]

39. Oh yes we can!!!

[winter is coming]

18. I get the feeling most of that "piece" was written prior to the debate. n/t

[reformist2]

19. Yeah, why not? These major media stories are getting more and more desperate.

And poorly written, I might add. Stephen, you sound like you're writing for a high school newspaper.

[JackInGreen]

20. I dream of

Board room panics, frantic heritage fund managers and traders with the lemming urge all running themselves t0 hell and back wondering how to stop the coming BERN as OUR Trustbuster moves on big finance, big pharma, and all the others that know their lively hood relies on defrauding the public.

[rurallib]

21. Every damn day

[Lizzie Poppet]

73. The exact words I came here to post!

[bravenak]

22. No

[KamaAina]

24. Thnks to Bezos, WaPo is rapidly turning into another RW cat box liner

[jhart3333]

26. The saving grace is the commenters over there. They tore him up one side and down the other.

That's what I'm talkin about!

[Vinca]

25. I have yet to run into someone who is supporting Hillary.

True, I live in Bernie country, but just the same . . .

[Hepburn]

30. What I hear is:

Yes, to Bernie, he is great and I am supporting him...but if Hillary gets the nomination, I will support her because the Republicans suck (and other variations of "Republicans suck&quot .

[philosslayer]

35. Wait until Nov 2016

Those same people will be crawling over broken glass to vote for HRC.

[demwing]

62. Yep, that's what it will feel like

If we have to vote for Hillary, it will be that painful.

[Vinca]

67. Well, we're not total idiots, you know.

If she gets the nomination the vote will be "against" the Republicans rather than "for" the Democrats.

[philosslayer]

68. Same difference

A voting booth records votes, not reasons.

[Vinca]

69. So you won't be upset voting for Bernie. Good.

[philosslayer]

70. I'd love to see the poll that shows BS

Having the shadow of a chance. Because that poll just doesn't exist.

[Vinca]

89. It didn't exist for Obama, either.

While I agree it now appears Hillary will be the nominee, you can never predict what will happen until it happens. She was far ahead at this time in 2007 . . . but something happened.

[Nitram]

128. "I have yet to run into someone who is supporting Hillary."

It is astounding to me how often I see Bernistas posting something like this as if it's somehow meaningful insight into the popularity of the candidates.

[Vinca]

129. Then I should also tell you about the large number of Bernie bumper stickers and yard signs around.

And not a Clinton bumper sticker or sign to be found. By the way. That "Bernista" thing? It makes me want to dream up a name for Clinton supporters, but I don't see the point in pissing you off. Bernie will need you if he's the nominee. And Hillary will need us if she's the nominee. Which might be a reason not to piss us off.

[SusanCalvin]

27. Of course I can and do.

I actually somewhat agree with the article's comment about his opening statement, but the snarky tone and gratuitous headline really undercut it as a serious "piece," and tilt it strongly toward a different kind of "piece".....

[KansDem]

28. I certainly can...

That's why I'm voting for him!

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. Absofreakinlutely.

[NorthCarolina]

34. Can I? I'd pray for it if I thought it would help get him there. eom

[mountain grammy]

36. Absolutely! Why wouldn't I?

I'm a citizen contributor to our next president.

[MADem]

38. Great finish to the article!

Clinton won the debate. And, if she and her opponents keep this up, she’s almost certainly going to win the nomination.

[MohRokTah]

40. In no way can I imagine him in the white house.

It would be like letting the bumbling absent minded professor try to rule the country.

[Unknown Beatle]

42. Better a bumbling absent minded professor trying to do the right thing,

then a person that knows what they're doing and doing it it all for Wall St. and big money and not doing anything for the people that elected her except making their lives harder than they already are.

[MohRokTah]

43. OLIGARCHS!! OLIGARCHS!!!

[whathehell]

125. There is nothing "bumbling" or "absent minded" about Bernie Sanders..

Try again.

[Fearless]

41. Ohh yes we can

[Unknown Beatle]

44. Oh hell yes I can imagine Bernie in the WH.

Feel the Bern!

[AngryOldDem]

47. Absolutely.

[appalachiablue]

48. I can't imagine him not in the White House.

[Hiraeth]

49. You may say I'm a dreamer but, I'm not the only one.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. The media claimed America would never elect a black guy either....

They called him a "socialist" too.

[moobu2]

51. lol no.

Bernie Sanders just isn't presidential material.

[Plucketeer]

63. Don't despair!

You'll have a choice a year from now. Instead of checking off Bernie, cast your vote for the (R) person.

[CharlotteVale]

53. Yes.

[artislife]

54. He is the only thing keeping me interested in the Presidential race

I just voted this November, like almost every other election,as I am very keen to keep the local scene as progressive as it can be.

But before he announced, I was ready to not worry about the bs the candidates on all sides would be spewing for the gear up. I knew most of them wouldn't create possitive change for this country or planet. It would just be varying degrees of bs.

If he loses the nomination, I can see myself going back to the default.

[Alkene]

56. Uh, yeah.

And I have it on fairly good authority that there are more than a few.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

57. A lot more than I care to imagine Hillary in the White House.

[SoapBox]

58. Yes I Can!

Go Bernie!

Go Berners!

Time to get back to work.

[BuelahWitch]

59. But, but, but MOST women support Hillary!

I read that on this site! You mean it's a NOT TRUE?

[diane in sf]

61. yes

[Plucketeer]

64. Not only can I imagine it...

I'm COUNTING on it!

[DebJ]

65. This one looks much better, also WAPO

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/11/15/the-daily-202-a-defensive-hillary-clinton-lost-last-nights-debate/?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_wemost

[cosmicone]

66. I can imagine Bernie in the White House

either as a senator visiting the POTUS or as a cabinet secretary -- like Secretary of Labor.

[NurseJackie]

71. Of course I can … as an invited guest of President Hillary Clinton!

[demwing]

97. Not worthy of a ROFL

And not even original:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251812973#post2

[NurseJackie]

98. It wasn't meant to be funny to you. However …

… I must note that the fact you bothered to take a moment to express your disapproval makes it even MORE funny than before!!!

[demwing]

104. not.even.original.

but keep trying, you're bound to get noticed eventually...

[NurseJackie]

106. That you think it was meant to be original, or that it somehow needs to be …

… just adds to the hilarity! I'm loving it!

you're bound to get noticed eventually

You noticed! And that's all that matters. Thank you!

[demwing]

110. Of course, my bad. You meant to be unoriginal.

and THAT was what was so funny, right?

Got it.

[NurseJackie]

112. More! More!

It's absolutely hysterical that anyone would take the post so seriously! The indignation, scorn and contempt is priceless and far exceeds anything I could have expected. Who could have guessed that a recycled gag could provoke such a critical response? I guess everyone has their priorities, and it's certainly interesting for me to see what types of little and insignificant things provoke the ire of Bernie supporters.



Again, I thank you for brightening my day!

[hedda_foil]

133. Dear Jackie,

If you actually have a hope that Bernie's supporters will vote for your candidate, it might be the better part of valor to lay off the roflmao smilie when you're conversing with us. Most people are highly offended when they are laughed at, whether in rl or online. A word to the wise.

Your friend,
Hedda

[NurseJackie]

134. Dear Hedda,

I honestly had no idea that Bernie fans were such delicate little flowers. They seem so aggressive and perfectly capable of dishing it out. Who knew that they couldn't take a little light-hearted needling in return. Oh, my!

I'll be on the lookout for similar admonitions from you toward the Bernie supporters as they clutter their posts with rofl's and lol's. It's reassuring to know that we have people such as yourself to help maintain civility and goodwill. You've certainly got your work cut out for you, and going forward I'm sure that I'll soon be seeing examples of your tenacity.

On the subject of Bernie's fans on DU voting for Hillary, I must admit that I have already accepted the fact that they're a lost cause. It's "Bernie or Bust" and they've made that abundantly clear. It's a fools errand to think that "not lol-ing" at the absurdity will change their mind. Fortunately, despite their beliefs, the percentage of Bernie fans who have gathered her don't represent what exists in real life.

Looking at how impressive Hillary's poll number are (and how dismal and lackluster Bernie's are... not to mention the absence of endorsements) I'm afraid I must confess that whether or not they do, or don't, vote for Hillary is of little concern to me. They'll do as they please, and that's fine. I won't flatter their vanities by trying to convince them to do otherwise, nor will I offer them honey when all they have to offer in return is vinegar.

Thanks for writing to me.

Your friend,
Jackie

[MadrasT]

72. Absolutely, yes I can. n/t

[senz]

74. I will be glad for the American people when Bernie wins.

[Persondem]

78. No. He won't get anything done domestically and internationally the world's tough

guys will laugh at him.

[Nye Bevan]

80. Yes.

Probably not going to happen, though,

[Hekate]

84. I can imagine him visiting Madam President for a nice cuppa. I can also vividly imagine...

....his supporters here bitterly continuing their trashing of the POTUS nonstop, just like they have done to Obama.

If by some miracle he managed to actually be elected, the same supporters would start trashing him, again like Obama, because by golly the office just does not come with a magic wand for him to fulfill their every wish.

[cui bono]

85. Oh hell yes.

[marym625]

86. Absolutely.

What I can't imagine in the White House is another warmongering, corporatist, economic hitperson.

[southerncrone]

87. I AM imagining Bernie in the White House!

[Betty Karlson]

88. Yes. It's one of two imaginings that give me hope.

Certain campaigns and its supporters are becoming desperate.

[firebrand80]

90. Yes, but I live in Colorado

[bigwillq]

91. Yes (nt)

[yuiyoshida]

92. *Raises hand*

I have a great imagination.

[redwitch]

96. Yes. nt

[Skidmore]

99. No.

I watched video yesterday of the President getting up in Putin's face. I could see either Hillary or O'Malley taking on such an incalcitrant man, but I cannot imagine Sanders dealing with him or any of the tougher actors on the world stage. Just can't.

[George II]

102. He couldn't even stand up to two young women in Seattle!

[Thinkingabout]

107. The need of having foreign experience has been a big need for several years and now it is very

important. We need a president who is able to gets security reports and understands what to do next. No, I can not see Sanders having enough foreign experience needed to make good decisions,

[Sheepshank]

113. This is exactly the concern I stated just recently on Another thread

Bernie just doesn't inspire confidence in his negtiation and adminstrative abilities when dealing with international leaders.

[okasha]

121. I imagine Sanders picking up the red phone and freezing.

Not good.

[dmosh42]

100. Nobody expected Abe Lincoln either!

[George II]

101. Nope. When he shrinks to the background when confronted by two young women, how...

....can he stand up to the leaders of China, Russia, etc.?

[Kentonio]

122. So you think the correct response to BLM is to 'confront' them not listen to them?

[Skidmore]

123. He didn't really listen.

He left.

[Kentonio]

124. No he did not.

He stood and listened, exactly what the BLM movement has been asking for.

[MaggieD]

103. Not me

He can't even seem to follow a debate question. I can't imagine how he would handle being president.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

108. It should be obvious

A match of his hair with his new House.

[AzDar]

109. Just about everyone I know certainly can. President Sanders = Mighty Sweet!

[Todays_Illusion]

111. I can see Bernie Sanders as President, considering Hillary as President gives me nightmares.

[whathehell]

114. Easily. n/t

[emsimon33]

115. Yes...and no one else (except Elizabeth Warren)

Bernie 2016

[99th_Monkey]

116. Yes we can.

.. to borrow a phrase from the last "long-shot challenger" to HRC for POTUS.

[glinda]

117. OMG yes.

[Duckfan]

118. I would absolutely love to hear the name, President Bernie Sanders.

What a refreshing change it would be.

But I just wish to gawd the Hillary supporter's would wake up and see it would be the same ol crap that Obama disappointed us with. This is no time to be selfish only wanting the first female president.

There has to be some common sense behind it. So far she hasn't shown that other than doing a "Copy and Paste" of Bernie's proposals.

[hedda_foil]

120. The comments are amazing.

I read the first 60 or so, and every single one of them pushed back hard. I don't think there has ever been such uniformity of comments on a MSM blog or op-ed. Just incredible.

[Ferd Berfel]

126. YES

I do not trust Hillary to keep my social security and Medicare out of the hands of her Wall Street puppet masters.

[MineralMan]

127. I heard he wasn't planning to live in the White House

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251817556

[MFM008]

130. No one I know is supporting Sanders

and I cant see him in the white house. The guy is 75, I can see him in a retirement home. BUT BUT BUT if he is the nominee I will vote for him because NOT supporting the nominee measn a republican president and a DISASTER. Keep that in mind.

[ladjf]

131. I could imagine Bernie in the White House if I could image that

there were enough intelligent voters to elect him. However, my confidence in the American voters is very low.