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Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:33 PM

Why CBS Is Not Publishing The 4th Part Of The Democratic Debate

The Fascist Oligarchy is in over-drive trying protect itself. Democracy will not survive without a "Political Revolution"

http://www.youngprogressivevoices.com/2015/11/16/cbs-not-publishing-4th-part-democratic-debate/

John Dickerson hosted the second Democratic National Debate on November 14, in Iowa, where the candidates talked about numerous issues, starting with the recent Paris attack and ending with crises management.

Thatís not whatís interesting, though. What is interesting is that CBS has chosen to publish every part of the debate on their Youtube page except part 4.

Why is that you ask? Well, this was the part that dealt with Wall Street, but more importantly, featured Sanders finally going on the offensive (thatís actually over exaggerating it). Sanders questioned why Wall Street would donate to Clintonís campaign if they didnít intend to get something out of it. Clinton had to fumble for a response, talking about she did have a lot of small campaign contributions and that she helped New York after 9/11.

Of course, none of these had anything to do with Sanders comment and were obvious deflections, but the fact that CBS refused to publish this on their main Youtube page is telling about the bias they have towards Hillary and against Sanders.

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Reply Why CBS Is Not Publishing The 4th Part Of The Democratic Debate (Original post)
Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 OP
randys1 Nov 2015 #1
randys1 Nov 2015 #59
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #2
Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #4
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #6
merrily Nov 2015 #32
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #36
merrily Nov 2015 #39
Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #54
merrily Nov 2015 #62
George II Nov 2015 #49
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #60
PotatoChip Nov 2015 #20
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #26
PotatoChip Nov 2015 #34
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #35
PotatoChip Nov 2015 #38
AlbertCat Nov 2015 #44
sufrommich Nov 2015 #28
George II Nov 2015 #52
moobu2 Nov 2015 #3
MaggieD Nov 2015 #24
merrily Nov 2015 #33
Duval Nov 2015 #50
SidDithers Nov 2015 #5
sufrommich Nov 2015 #7
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #21
AlbertCat Nov 2015 #46
upaloopa Nov 2015 #23
MaggieD Nov 2015 #25
Segami Nov 2015 #8
sufrommich Nov 2015 #13
Segami Nov 2015 #15
MaggieD Nov 2015 #37
AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #80
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #9
MADem Nov 2015 #43
Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #10
72DejaVu Nov 2015 #11
firebrand80 Nov 2015 #12
Trajan Nov 2015 #29
Agschmid Nov 2015 #41
demwing Nov 2015 #57
Agschmid Nov 2015 #58
BootinUp Nov 2015 #64
Agschmid Nov 2015 #65
demwing Nov 2015 #56
DhhD Nov 2015 #66
FSogol Nov 2015 #14
MineralMan Nov 2015 #16
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MineralMan Nov 2015 #19
boston bean Nov 2015 #27
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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:36 PM

1. For krist fucking sake.

If this is true then I just dont know what to say anymore.

FUCKUCKUCKUCKUCKUCK!!!!!!!!!

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Response to randys1 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:30 PM

59. Have I been had again?

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:40 PM

2. Here.

 

&index=4&list=PLTSoBJlExMGPsX45fWDMO9ocbWDKbj8lQ


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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:44 PM

4. Thanks for that.

 

Still, it is worrying that CBS would refuse to carry that on their Youtube channel, while the other parts are offered without issue. It shows a terrible bias.

A candidate that needs THAT much help to win a primary doesn't inspire my confidence at all. She is a follower, not a leader.

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:49 PM

6. Wow did you just go full on conspiracy.

 

"A candidate that needs THAT much help to win a primary doesn't inspire my confidence at all. She is a follower, not a leader."

There is only one way to take that. You think the Clinton campaign, working with CBS, had them pull it for a couple of hours. I truly couldn't make this up on my worst of days.

"for the first few hours"

The goal posts are quickly moving.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:43 PM

32. Who are the conspirators and what did they conspire to do?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710043 (don't miss Ichingcarpenter's reply!)

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Response to merrily (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:53 PM

36. See post 4.

 

Don't miss NCTraveler's reply.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #36)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:58 PM

39. I saw #4 and your reply. Neither answered my question.

Assuming just for the purposes of discussing my question that CBS had decided not put up Part IV. With whom would CBS have been conspiring?

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Response to merrily (Reply #39)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:24 PM

54. Wall Street?

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #54)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:35 PM

62. We can only guess, Ferd, we can only guess.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:15 PM

49. Yes, full on conspiracy which describes the participants as Fascists! Too bad its totally false....

...the transcript and full video (ALL parts!) were up only minutes after the debate ended.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:16 PM

20. Thank you. This part was unavailable as of yesterday.

All the rest were there, just not this one.

It does indeed link me back to the other parts of the full debate on YouTube.

I'm glad they finally put it up so that people can now see it.

This is much appreciated.

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:24 PM

26. "Thank you. This part was unavailable as of yesterday."

 

I'm really not sure what you are saying. I can tell you ten different ways to see this exact link was available yesterday just from the link alone.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:47 PM

34. I'm saying I couldn't find it.

And I'm usually pretty good at that sort of thing. Especially after I had spent the time watching parts 1, 2, and 3. No part 4 when I looked, but 5 and 6 were there.

But I guess I didn't look hard enough since as sufro pointed out, there are comments from yesterday.

Still though, I apparently was not the only one with this issue, since the OP's article's author seems to have had trouble too.

Here is my post in the Bernie group asking if anyone knew where I could find the full debate. http://www.democraticunderground.com/128074109#post37

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:52 PM

35. Unavailable means something.

 

It doesn't mean what you are claiming it to mean. I have no reason to question that you couldn't find something. That isn't even close to what you said.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:57 PM

38. I didn't claim "it" meant anything.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:58 PM

44. Unavailable means something.

 

Pu-leez

It was unavailable to that poster at the time because they couldn't find it!

But they easily found all the other parts.

Why is that? That's all this is about. It's not an unreasonable question.

Perhaps it was being viewed so much more than the others at the time...or something...

Anyway, now that it is up.... why are you going on about word definitions?

This is not difficult. Nor are the questions and confusion nefarious.

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:27 PM

28. "This part was unavailable as of yesterday"

It's got comments that were posted yesterday.Some were posted 20 hours ago.

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:17 PM

52. All parts were up on November 14, the night of the debate (which means less than an hour...

....after it ended since it ended at 11:00 PM)

Not only that, the full transcript was posted on the CBS site at 11:11 PM Saturday, minutes after it ended.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:44 PM

3. Here you go.

edited to add all the parts.





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Response to moobu2 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:22 PM

24. LOL

 

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:45 PM

33. Nice.

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:15 PM

50. Aw, thanks! Too funny!!

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:47 PM

5. Damn fascist oligarchy. Can't even scrub a video properly...



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:49 PM

7. I knew as soon as I read the title that it would be debunked

within minutes.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:17 PM

21. LOL

"I didn't see it! I looked for a full .50th of a second and DID NOT SEE IT!!!!!"

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:01 PM

46. "I didn't see it! I looked for a full .50th of a second and DID NOT SEE IT!!!!!"

 

Well...if they found all the other parts in less than a full .50th of a second, it's not unreasonable to wonder where it was.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:20 PM

23. If we had to serve cheese with all the

whine we would have run out long ago.
I can just imagine what will be said when Bernie is not nominated.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:22 PM

25. Geeze they really suck at being fascist oligarchs

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:53 PM

8. Another person who posted a Hillary Debate video

 

mishmash on YouTube also referred to the "missing CBS YouTube debate video Part #4" ....He goes on to say "I found the clip, thank God other people have posted it".

Is CBS trying to suppress YouTube Debate video #4...?

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Response to Segami (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:59 PM

13. If you would have bothered to read through the thread,

there's a couple of links to CBS debate part 4 right on CBS's YouTube channel.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:02 PM

15. I did read the threads...

 

I posted what someone else on YouTube was saying..

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Response to Segami (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:54 PM

37. A Bernie supporter on his facebook feed...

 

Told me that unicorns are real animals. i don't believe everything someone says on the internet. Do you?

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Response to MaggieD (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:06 AM

80. Have you ever read the comments on Debbie Wasserman Schultz FB page?

 

Pure comedy gold! Oh, and welcome back....again.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:55 PM

9. "Why Bernie Supporters Should Watch Out For Lawrence Lessig"

 

From that same blog. No shit, Lessig dropped out the day after they published that. lol. They have a keen eye around those parts.

http://www.youngprogressivevoices.com/2015/11/01/bernie-supporters-watch-out-lawrence-lessig/

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:46 PM

43. I think that blog is "Young Progressive REPUBLICAN Voices." I think they trolling for the GOP!

They create a Potemkin Blog and then point and say "See? See? Look how f.cking flaky all those goofball Lefties are!!"

The thing I can't figure out is why anyone actually ON the left would be so eager to cut and paste what smells like bullshit at fifty paces and breathlessly pass it on, without even BOTHERING to do a thirty second fact check?

Here it is, from CBS News:



Took me eight seconds to pull that up.

Embarrassing.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:57 PM

10. It's a conspiracy. nt

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:57 PM

11. Knock knock

The Men In Black are at your door, bro.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:58 PM

12. Bernie is building a sizable tinfoil hat brigade

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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:35 PM

29. Bye bye

 

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Response to Trajan (Reply #29)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:59 PM

41. Please add me to your list as well.

Thanks.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #41)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:28 PM

57. your welcome

 

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Response to demwing (Reply #57)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:30 PM

58. Phew.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #41)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:36 PM

64. lol.

oh dear.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #64)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:38 PM

65. I figure let's just get it over with.

I don't have anyone on ignore, so it's in them to ignore me.

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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:28 PM

56. You have a Bernie avatar

 

and a third way sig line!

You are conflicted at a basic level...

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:01 PM

14. ALCOA!

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:04 PM

16. Why Ferd Berfel Can't Find the 4th Part

That's the real mystery, I think.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:08 PM

17. I blame Red Stewart,Big liberal and gamer, for the fact free

article.Ferd is just the poor guy who fell for it.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:10 PM

19. It's always good to check such articles for facts.

That's what I find. It's a lot of nonsense out there on the interwebs.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:26 PM

27. For a minute there, I read Rod Stewart!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:17 PM

22. BECAUSE THE OLIGARCHY, duh

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:09 PM

18. Never have I seen a leading member of the Democratic Party so

maligned by fellow Democrats, especially with no "credible" evidence.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:37 PM

30. CBS = "Cock-and-Bull Story" (nt)

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:40 PM

31. It should be obvious who is behind this conspiracy!!1!1!

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:58 PM

40. Actually it was...


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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:40 PM

42. But they DID "publish it." Why would this source tell such a massive, honking LIE?



Dem Debate Part 4 - Heated exchanges over Wall Street, gun control
CBSN
CBSN


That's straight from the CBSNews page.

Now....why would 'the Young Progressives' (whoever they are) want to make Sanders supporters look like a bunch of loony conspiracy theorists?

"Fascist oligarchy?"

Please.

This is just some embarrassing shit. Who wants to associate themselves with these whining, lying lunatics?

Are these Republican trolls at this "Young Progressive Voices" webpage, trying to make the left look bad? Because if they are, they're doing a bang-up job of it....




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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:01 PM

45. You really should do some research before you post blatant lies. The FULL transcript....

.....was published at 11:11 PM on Saturday night, just minutes after the debate ended:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-debate-transcript-clinton-sanders-omalley-in-iowa/

PLUS, CBS released the full video of the debate in separate parts and , INCLUDING Part 4 - also just minutes after the debate ended:

Full Debate: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeAhy4TE2-hXvpkc6s3HCFCjm4qFpnZFh

Part 4:

Why do you blatantly post falsehoods on this site?



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Response to George II (Reply #45)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:04 PM

47. A blatant lie with 46 recs. nt

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #47)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:12 PM

48. Yes, and among them someone with the amazing screen name "I hate liars"!!

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #47)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:16 PM

51. "The new normal"

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #47)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:19 PM

72. 66 recs now.

 

LOL.

What an embarrassment for DU.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:22 PM

53. Why are there 52 recs on a debunked story? nt

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:25 PM

55. CBSN did post Part 4 (Just two days the rest of the debate was posted).

It is strange to me that Part 4 was the only part of the debate to be held back from the initial debate posting. It was also the section of the debate where Hillary took the most criticism. Could it have been an accident that it wasn't posted with the initial batch? Sure. Coincidences do happen. I'm not sure I'm willing to give the benefit of he doubt.

Below is a summary of the videos as released on CBSN with date released and hit count:

Dem Debate Part 1: Candidates address Paris attacks, ISIS (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 43,520)
Dem Debate Part 2 - Candidates spar on the economy (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 20,368)
Dem Debate Part 3 - Candidates lay out vision for domestic agenda (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 20,082)
Dem Debate Part 4 - Heated exchanges over Wall Street, gun control (Uploaded on Nov. 16th) (Views: 236)
Dem Debate Part 5 - Race, Clinton's emails, Sanders' electability (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 17,506)
Dem Debate Part 6 - Crisis management and closing statements (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 12,157)

Withholding Part 4 by two days has managed to reduce visibility on the 9/11-Wallstreet connection by ~20,000 viewers. It's not much in the grand scheme of things, but it is weird.

Why was the video not put up with the others initially on Nov. 14th?

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #55)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:36 PM

63. Because of completely non conspiratorial reasons

 

which no one can define, or speculate about, or even discuss. And it doesn't matter how fucking weird it is because of many important stuffs and a plethora of different things...

It's like some vast, right wing conspiracy (hmm, where have I heard that phrase before?)

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Response to demwing (Reply #63)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:34 PM

68. We don't know the reason nor will we.

Speculation is natural. It is human to question things that don't quite make sense.

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #68)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:59 PM

69. Just in case I was being unclear

 

I completely agree with you...

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Response to demwing (Reply #69)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:31 PM

73. My apologies :)

Have a lovely rest of your day!

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #73)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:48 PM

75. I will

 

and make sure you do as well

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:32 PM

61. Blatant bias is what we have come to expect from the corporate media.

Industry wide. Industry wide. Industry wide.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:47 PM

67. Well, you survived a jury of your peers:


On Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:55 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Why CBS Is Not Publishing The 4th Part Of The Democratic Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251817579

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Totally false "conspiracy theory" (the FULL transcript was published minutes after the debate ended) and "Fascist Oligarchy"? Do we really need inflammatory insults on this site to go along with blatant lies?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:37 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I haven't got eleven kids - I weren't born in Baghdad - I'm not half-Chinese either And I didn't kill my dad
It's not true, it's not true I'm telling you - 'Cause I'm up here and you're nowhere - It's not true, so there
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Gosh, alerter, could you not have offered this information as a rebuttal? We do have a tin foil emoticon for posts such as this, if it were indeed CT. Just doesn't qualify as CT for me. (Besides, Hillary did fumble her response about her Wall Street "obligations."
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a little late to hide it. On the positive side there's 40 posts making the OP look ridiculous.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: We do have a propaganda debunking forum so if this is a lie-a lie out there in the public domain, let DU discuss and debunk it.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:01 PM

70. Debunked crock of shit. Too bad you're just out of MIRT's reach.

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Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #70)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:14 PM

71. This post has 66 recs.

 

That's a lot of recs.


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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #71)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:35 PM

74. That's not for me to judge. Folks have their own reasons when they rec-it's not always in agreement.

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Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #70)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:07 AM

81. Please show us where this was debunked

 

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #81)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:17 AM

82. Here

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #82)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:42 AM

83. Please link to part 4 of the debate FROM CBS

 

That is not FROM CBS. It is a feed cap of the debate from a separate organization.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #83)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:44 AM

84. You prefer the debate to be split up in parts? Okie dokie....

 



Damn fascist oligarchy!

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:47 PM

76. Kick for exposing the "Fascist Oligarchy"

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #76)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:57 PM

77. Brothers. Sisters. We don't need no Fascist Groove Thing.

 

Old people earworm.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 10:57 AM

79. .

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #79)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:45 AM

85. .

 

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