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Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:52 AM

As a Bernie Supporter, I totally trust Hillary!

I trust her to do the right thing as she sees it on a bunch of different issues.

I trust her to mitigate the damage that a popular uprising will do to the profits of large banks.

I trust her to protect the profits of health insurance companies.

I trust her to enable big pharma to continue price gouging.

I trust her to resist efforts to improve incarceration rates and eliminate for profit prisons.

I trust her to expand the H1B visa program and protect tech executives profits.

I trust her to implement practical reforms to SS and medicare which will limit benefits and keep the cap.

I trust her to fill her cabinet with warmongers, CIA operatives and wall street billionaires.

I trust her to work to keep the minimum wage as low as possible.

I trust her to protect Big Oil from lawsuits over damages from fracking operations.

I trust her to maintain the militaristic bent of policing in the US.

I trust her to vigorously help the little people so long as it doesn't interfere with the above list.

Most of all I trust her to run a dirty campaign full of half truths and surrogates stating downright lies about opponents.

Hillary is totally trustworthy.

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Reply As a Bernie Supporter, I totally trust Hillary! (Original post)
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lewebley3 Nov 2015 #128
SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2015 #143
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Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #2
Dawgs Nov 2015 #3
Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #32
hueymahl Nov 2015 #44
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Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #47
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AlbertCat Nov 2015 #66
Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #80
Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #110
senz Nov 2015 #102
Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #120
hootinholler Nov 2015 #122
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bvar22 Nov 2015 #130
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Weidman Nov 2015 #36
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Bubzer Nov 2015 #70
MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #63
Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #105
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neverforget Nov 2015 #139
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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:56 AM

1. That's about as far as I trust her, too. nt

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Response to ladyVet (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:29 PM

128. I do trust Hillary like many American's I know where she Stands

 



Its only for politician reasons Sanders supporter have decide
that they don't trust her

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #128)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 03:30 AM

143. She does not know where she stands

 

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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #143)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:33 PM

154. She's been a Dem for almost thirty years: She has had views out in public for years

 



Its only Sanders people who suddenly don't know her.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:06 AM

2. I should trust the half truths of posters using RW talking points, no I should not.

I trust Hillary on her experience and ability, the debate exposed large gaps in the ability of Sanders in foreign policy, he does nit have a gripe on world events and history. It is scary.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:16 AM

3. Do you have quotes from the debate to back up your claim?

 

I would love to see them.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:11 AM

32. I have it recorded, I feel sure you can find the transcript on line.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:32 AM

44. You are the one that made the unsupported claim

I'll make one too:

I trust Bernie on his experience and ability, the debate exposed large gaps in the ability of Clinton in foreign policy, she does not have a grip on world events and history. It is scary.

If you want to see quotes about what I am talking about, I'm sure you can find a transcript online.

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #44)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:38 AM

45. Best possible response.

 

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #44)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:40 AM

47. Ilistened to the debates, I am not responsible for his responses, go talk to him.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #47)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:43 AM

48. You literally have left me at a loss for words. So I will respond with an emoticon

expressing my interpretation of your response:

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #47)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:55 AM

66. Ilistened to the debates, I am not responsible for his responses, go talk to him.

 

What could this post mean or possibly have to do with anything?

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #66)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:28 PM

80. 911....... weemennn................ cause

things and stuff go ask somebody ...... I saw things.

I hope I cleared up your 'thinking ''

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #80)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:03 PM

110. ROFLMAO. Good one. n/t

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #66)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:14 PM

102. Hillary supporters resemble their candidate in that way.

 

Just say anything. Doesn't matter if it makes sense.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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Response to senz (Reply #102)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:39 PM

120. Like Bernie supporters resemble their candidates knowledge of foreign affairs. got it.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #120)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:18 PM

122. How so Charlie?

I really like Bernie's foreign affairs positions.

Military force is a total last resort. Yep. I'm on board with that.

Building broad coalitions with other nations when actions are taken. Yep. I'm totally on board with that one too.

Apparently you think that was some sort of insult. Or was it a RW talking point?

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #122)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:25 PM

123. He has little knowledge of foreign affairs, it was evident Saturday during the debates.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #123)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:33 PM

124. More unsupported assertions



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Response to hootinholler (Reply #124)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:34 PM

125. Watch the debates again, I hope you can understand his lack of knowledge of foreign affairs.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #125)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:38 PM

126. It's your assertion

Provide evidence or STFD&STFU

Your choice.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #125)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:02 PM

130. Hillary really showed her grasp of foreign affairs...

...when she voted AGAINST the Democratic Majority, and voted with REPUBLICANS to give BUSH a blank check for the Iraq War.
What a friggen disaster.

OTOH: Bernie, and the majority of DEMOCRATS voted NO WAY!
...which proved to be the correct Foreign Policy decision.


I like people who make the right decisions under pressure.
I don't vote for people who Got-It-All-WRONG,
and killed a MILLION innocent people.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #130)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:16 PM

131. Hillary showed she understands foreign affairs and gave a good statement on foreign affairs during

the debate, she is showing her ability to be Commander-in-Chief.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #131)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:23 PM

153. What happened? Did she "evolve" again,

because she sure demonstrated an extremely poor grasp of Foreign Policy
when she stood with George Bush to invade the wrong country.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #153)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:47 PM

156. Sanders needs to evolve on foreign affairs, he has been on congress for twenty five years, it did

Not show up Saturday, I dont think there is enough time before the primaries begin. It concerns me he has voted on bills involving issues over the world without a grasp on what is happening, perhaps this is why he voted against the ISIS Resolution, he was not familiar enough with ISIS to understand.

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #44)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:49 AM

64. Nailed it

 

Great response to emotional monkey-brain support for Clinton.

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #44)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:04 PM

69. +1

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:38 AM

46. So, the answer is no.

 

Not surprised.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #46)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:34 PM

82. The ability to say 'yes' or 'no'....

does seem to be scarce in some. At least that gives them a link with their candidate.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:19 AM

4. Bernie Sanders gave a speech prior to the Iraq War Resolution vote...

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/video/flashback-rep-bernie-sanders-opposes-iraq-war

In it he said this...

Mr. Speaker, in the brief time I have, let me give five reasons why I am opposed to giving the President a blank check to launch a unilateral invasion and occupation of Iraq and why I will vote against this resolution. One, I have not heard any estimates of how many young American men and women might die in such a war or how many tens of thousands of women and children in Iraq might also be killed. As a caring Nation, we should do everything we can to prevent the horrible suffering that a war will cause. War must be the last recourse in international relations, not the first. Second, I am deeply concerned about the precedent that a unilateral invasion of Iraq could establish in terms of international law and the role of the United Nations. If President Bush believes that the U.S. can go to war at any time against any nation, what moral or legal objection could our government raise if another country chose to do the same thing?

Third, the United States is now involved in a very difficult war against international terrorism as we learned tragically on September 11. We are opposed by Osama bin Laden and religious fanatics who are prepared to engage in a kind of warfare that we have never experienced before. I agree with Brent Scowcroft, Republican former National Security Advisor for President George Bush, Sr., who stated, ``An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken.''

Fourth, at a time when this country has a $6 trillion national debt and a growing deficit, we should be clear that a war and a long-term American occupation ofIraq could be extremely expensive.

Fifth, I am concerned about the problems of so-called unintended consequences. Who will govern Iraq when Saddam Hussein is removed and what role will the U.S. play in ensuing a civil war that could develop in that country? Will moderate governments in the region who have large Islamic fundamentalist populations be overthrown and replaced by extremists? Will the bloody conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Authority be exacerbated? And these are just a few of the questions that remain unanswered.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:12 AM

34. This speech did not get ISIS to go away.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:14 AM

36. ISIS did not exist until after Chimp went ahead and did his thing

 

and created more problems.

Clinton is responsible, along with the other Democratic Senators who gave Chimp his war on.

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Response to Weidman (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:27 AM

42. How much compassion do you have for the women and girls kidnapped and are subject to rape and abuse?

Go tell them it is okay because Bush invaded Iraq and it okays anything they do. If faced with them getting ready to behead you will you think it is okay because Bush invaded Iraq. All of the talk about Bush invading Iraq is not going to change the fact something has to be done to stop ISIS.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #43)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:08 PM

70. +1

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #42)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:36 AM

63. I'd say there's a hell of a lot of compassion in what expressed you. Where's yours?

While you are looking.... Go tell the Congress who supported Bush's illegal, off-budget war that the only compassionate next step is to sustain that war and cause more rape, kidnapping, slaughter, and FUNDING of real weapons of mass destruction. Go tell Congress and the president that ONCE AGAIN, it was just fine to invade and occupy the wrong country in our name, and not look back for the sake of looking forward to every bit of this mess we now see an an international level, deciding off-budget, with OUR MONEY, in 3 DAYS after this last event in Paris that more of the same has to be done.

It was mistake we were warned about by Bernie Sanders to go there and it is a mistake to sustain it.

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #63)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:26 PM

105. What good will talking to congress about the Iraq invasion in changing whether the invasion occurred

We can continue to live in the past or live for the future, I choose to live today.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #105)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:52 PM

108. That's a pretty good thing to say about living living for today...

... to demonstrate that it results in learning NOTHING.

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #108)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:26 PM

119. Learn the invasion was wrong? Hell, I know it was a bad move, today we need to respond to

terrorists attacks. Have we not learned sometimes there is a proper action at the proper time.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #119)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:10 PM

127. How sad that all you can say was that it was a bad move. It was much more than merely a bad move.

 

Hundreds of thousands of innocent people died horrible, horrible deaths. Five million Iraqis became refugees. Thousands of American troops killed and tens of thousands wounded and came home to find cut safety nets, many ending up on the streets or in prison. The financial cost was in the trillions which is to be borne by the 99% (not the 1%). The suicide rate for veterans is about 22 per day (none in the 1%). We (the 99% we, not the ruling 1%) have lost many freedoms via acts like the Patriot Act.

This war broke the 99% to a point that we may not recover. The 1% gained more wealth. Those that supported this war should see consequences. HRC made a mistake, a mistake that hurt us in the 99% while helping the 1%. It was a big mistake and she should never be trusted again.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #127)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:48 AM

139. Check out this post from May

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6644342

As I saw in another thread today, it waa only a vote and it doesn't make any difference.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #139)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:08 AM

141. I am upset that people can be so uncaring to look upon our invasion of Iraq as simply a "mistake".

 

Lack of empathy is a Republicon trait.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #141)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:14 AM

142. Ditto. It's "just a vote", a mistake, or she didn't actually vote for war but to give

him muscle to back up diplomacy. Do they really think that all that rhetoric from the neo-cons (Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc) was just talk?

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:46 AM

137. I can't stand this anymore.

 

Are you completely tone deaf? These absurd claims you keep making about foreign policy without any quote or even summary are borderline insane. This shift you made to "don't you care about raped so and so...." is eerily reminiscent of a certain candidate shifting the attention from questionable campaign donations to 9/11.

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Response to Weidman (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:04 AM

138. Well

I'm pretty sure it formed in 1999.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:22 AM

40. Confused?

Maybe you need a nap.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:57 AM

67. This speech did not get ISIS to go away.

 

Again....What could this post mean or possibly have to do with anything?

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #67)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:00 PM

109. See post #4, i thought the same.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #109)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:33 PM

114. See post #4, i thought the same.

 

You make zero sense.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:37 PM

84. If we had listened to it....

and changed our actions it very well got have. But you're not interested in making the future better. Oh well, have a lovely day.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:26 AM

6. I trust that the h supporters

 

revert to "RW talking points" when they cannot defend the allegations they read.

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Response to artislife (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:36 AM

14. It is way past the obvious stage isn't it.

True statements about Hillary are right wing talking points and lies about Bernie are truth.

It just rolls of their tongues way too easy doesn't it?

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:44 AM

18. Yup

 

I asked once, there are very few sources other than RW to begin with, so any critical thinking about her motives, actions etc are going to come from there, aren't they. Her own people have shown little regard to self reflection so that leaves only the real left to do it from a nonRW standpoint. And we have no real venue to get our message out.

Except social media. Which is also down played.

What isn't understood by h supporters is that the truth of observation stands, how it affects the observer depends on their filter. The RW doesn't trust or like h, so her actions inflict a reaction. The Left doesn't trust and barely tolerates her, so her actions also inflict a reaction. The emotion of why it is a bad action may differ, but the outcome reaction is the same. Distrust.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:13 PM

74. +1

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Response to artislife (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:13 AM

35. Oh my, I was thinking of the RW talking points used against Hillary.

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Response to artislife (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:10 PM

73. And to attempt to call any valid arguments against hillary RW talking points.

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Response to artislife (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:18 AM

149. I don't have to revert to RW talking points, I do recognize RW talking points when I see them. The

RW talking points of Hillary's speeches is used on RW talk shows, so if the shoe fits then wear it.

Hillary has the experience and ability to be president, I can stand behind her as the best candidate running for president. I can quote her position on the issues anytime, I am confident of her ability.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #149)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:19 AM

150. I don't care if the RW ALSO sees through h

 

It must be pretty blatant for everyone but the the followers to see it.

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Response to artislife (Reply #150)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:39 AM

151. I agree, it must be pretty blatant if the followers do see the RW talking points, remember the RW

have had their talking points about the Clintons for a long time. They are repeated over and over, there will be the Bill stories, the stories about her time as SOS. This was before Sanders even started running for president.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #151)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 11:51 AM

152. If I agree with it, that is all that matters

 

and it is just like you all agreeing with something that comes out of the H thinktank and friends against the other candidates.

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Response to artislife (Reply #152)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:35 PM

155. The street goes both ways.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #155)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:03 PM

157. I know.

 

But if it is truth it is truth.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:30 AM

10. I trust Hillary on her experience and ability

So do I!

Was I not clear?

Now I'm not sure exactly what Bernie does nit have a gripe about. I agree that nits are scary, makes my scalp itch just thinking about them.

Oh, and BTW, are you actually accusing me of using RW talking points?



Thanks for proving my point about surrogates using half-baked half truths and lies.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:05 AM

30. "I agree that nits are scary, makes my scalp itch just thinking about them."

Is it possible that this gif is showing that HRC has nits falling on her shoulder?



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Response to BeanMusical (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:44 AM

49. Careful, I almost ignored you

I've been ignoring everyone with fly swatters and that gif in their signatures. It's a lot less infuriating to read here now.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:15 AM

37. No I not accusing you of RW talking points.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #37)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:45 AM

50. Good to know

But still it makes me wonder why you would bring that up replying to me.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:35 AM

12. "RW talking points"

Sure they are.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:11 AM

33. Actually..

those are left-wing talking points! She will "protect Big Oil from lawsuits over damages from fracking operations" said no right-wing person ever. Right-wing supporters would never point that out because they hope it isn't noticed.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:17 AM

38. Hum, like the law the NRA wanted and Sanders to prevent lawsuits against gun manufactures, why not

Add to the list?

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:23 AM

41. Except that oil companies are damaging the environment directly.


Whereas gun manufacturers are not involved with killing people directly.

Just an little difference there that you seem to not have noticed.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:01 PM

68. those are left-wing talking points!

 

Doesn't matter apparently.

ANY criticism of Hillary are "RW Talking points" and blasphemy to Clintonism.


Also, Sanders' supporters are apparently all rude and "vile". This is a given in Clintonism.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:19 AM

5. See, trust is easy if you base it on her past behavior rather than what she is saying now

 

Your list is spot on, and it is amazing to me that her supporters will just stick their fingers in their ears and chant "la-la-la-la-la" rather than step back and truly ask whether their support is in their own best interests and the interests of the country.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:17 PM

77. Love your sig line animation!

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #77)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:31 PM

106. Thanks. I just became tired of the undercurrent of fascism that I have been seeing lately

 

And having to tolerate it from members of our own party was unacceptable.

Those alert-happy brownshirts should move to North Korea if they want party purity. I hear Kim Jong Un has 100% turnout and 100% of the vote which some (note to the potential jurists responding to the inevitable alert - please notice the word "some" of these HRC supporters seem to think is the goal in the United States.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #106)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:39 PM

107. Agreed. I'm honestly surprised that fascism is even marginally tolerated here.



I always thought fascism was antithetical to what the democratic party stood for.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:27 AM

7. K&R

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:27 AM

8. As (REDUX)

As Hillary Clinton continues on her inexorable march to the White House I expect the attacks on her and her supporters to grow exponentially as they become more vitriolic.


<patiently waits for the brigade to attack me. I will dispatch them with same aplomb I demonstrated in dispatching the bullies I encountered as a young boy on the playgrounds of New York city>



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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:45 AM

20. So very brave of you. nt

 

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Response to artislife (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:49 AM

22. Thank you.

There is no separation between the Brian of real life and the Brian of DU and there isn't one thing I have said on the internet since I bought my first desk top in 1998 that I wouldn't say to my interlocutor's face.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:50 AM

23. That has to be your favorite word. nt

 

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Response to artislife (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:52 AM

24. "Thank you."

Yes, I am anything if not unfailingly polite.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:50 PM

89. Oh yes

 

and more....have a good day.

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Response to artislife (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:08 AM

31. What I want to know is

Who the fuck are Brian? Are they twins or multiple personalities.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 03:35 AM

144. I dunno but what I do know is their uncle can lick your uncle. nt.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:13 AM

57. I thought you were from winter park or deltona?

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Response to SwampG8r (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:19 AM

59. I was born in Far Rockaway , Queens. I moved with my parents to Deltona, FL when I was twelve years

I was born in Far Rockaway , Queens. I moved with my parents to Deltona, FL when I was twelve years old. My parents owned a candy store/luncheonette in Redfern and then in Jamaica, Queens . Since they both worked there was no one at home to take care of me and those were the areas I spent a lot of time growing up.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #59)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:37 PM

83. OK no biggie I just was

Thinking I had you confused with someone else

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Response to SwampG8r (Reply #83)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:40 PM

85. I lived in Winter Park briefly but not within the city limits a long time ago.

It was near Butler Plaza.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:28 PM

79. Oh FFS......

 


Who the fuck says stuff like this?

<patiently waits for the brigade to attack me. I will dispatch them with same aplomb I demonstrated in dispatching the bullies I encountered as a young boy on the playgrounds of New York city>


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Response to Logical (Reply #79)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:42 PM

86. Someone who has no truck with or fear of bullies, physical or verbal ones.

The latter seem to be well represented on this board.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #86)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:49 PM

87. I love "internet" tough guys. FFS, insecure? Nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #87)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:51 PM

91. If you believe I am an internet tough guy for deigning to defend myself from verbal or physical...

If you believe I am an internet tough guy for deigning or rising to defend myself, depending on your vantage point, from verbal or physical attacks it is not even beyond your ken to find out.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #91)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:53 PM

94. Lol, are you just fucking with me? No one acts like that in real life. Nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #94)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:55 PM

95. I treat people in the precise manner in which they treat me.

In fact my first impulse is to be deferential.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #95)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:57 PM

97. And brings up their childhood for no fucking reason at all. Nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #97)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:59 PM

99. My childhood was what prepared me to do with bullies, physical or verbal...

In fact , many developmental psychologists believe your personality is pretty well set before you even reach puberty.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #99)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:11 PM

101. They also believe sharing it on a random message board is odd. Nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #101)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:17 PM

104. One person's odd is another person's individuality.

I served on a jury where one member of our community called another member of our community a "special snow flake" and voted to leave it alone. We are all "special snow flakes."

Vive la difference.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #86)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:50 PM

90. Did you wash your hands first?



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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:53 PM

93. wow a new tactic against bullies!

Bore the hell out of them...thanks!

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #93)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:57 PM

98. LOL! Nt

 

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #93)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 03:38 AM

145. Brass knuckles, a theosaurs and a gif of an accused rapist holding up the number 10. nt.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:30 AM

9. on what do you base any of these?

just the one about big pharma, for instance?

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Response to treestar (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:36 AM

13. Other might say...

Others might say he pulled them out of his, errrr ear.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:43 AM

17. Sounds like somebody needs a hug

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:44 AM

19. Only if you wash your hands first.

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Response to treestar (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:43 AM

16. On what do you base trustworthiness?

This is my experience and personal observation. I see no evidence to the contrary on any of the points.

Show me how I am wrong about any of the points I've named and you can change my mind.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:59 AM

27. Hope you have food and water, cuz you're gonna be waiting a long time for an answer.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 05:41 AM

146. well just take the one on pharma for instance

what specifically is that referring to?

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:32 AM

11. Currently, more Democrats trust her to be president than anybody else

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:09 PM

71. Currently, more Democrats trust her to be president than anybody else

 

Well, they're busy doing what they do...working, taking care of children and loved ones, shopping, ...y'know, their lives...

and they already know Clinton's name, so.... just go with that! Because Bill was so good, y'know.


It becomes more obvious as time (and debates) go on that she is winning due to name recognition. A thing supported by the media, who might mention the other candidates about half? a third? as much.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #71)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:10 PM

72. After two debates, one of which was the most watched Democratic debate ever

You think name recognition is the issue? Don't underestimate the voters.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #72)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:14 PM

76. You think name recognition is the issue?

 

For the average voter....yes.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:40 AM

15. typical Bernie supporter.

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:57 AM

26. Most of them have passed Elisabeth Kubler-Ross' Shock and Denial Stage

Most of them have passed Elisabeth Kubler-Ross' Five Stages Of Grief Shock and Denial Stage and are now in the Anger Stage. They only have three more Stages to go and we should be there every step of the way.

Just remember it will be a lot more difficult for them than it will be for us and we need to be there for them every step of the way.

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:13 PM

75. typical Bernie supporter.

 

I find it weird the fixation on Sanders' supporters people for Hillary have.

We aren't electing Sanders' supporters.


I think it's because if one poo-poos Sanders positions and ideas and notions, you don't sound very liberal.


But... go after the supporters.... who you might need if Clinton gets the nomination.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #75)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:26 PM

78. You'll be waiting a while for an answer

December 15th, if I got it right.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:47 AM

21. Badda Bing!

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:56 AM

25. I Trust Bernie . . .

To flail his arms and give good speeches against Wall Street, the current minimum wage and Keystone.

I trust Hillary to be President of the United States.

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Response to Gamecock Lefty (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:02 AM

28. They are grieving for the impending ...

They are grieving for their impending candidate's loss and in their grief they are lashing out indiscriminately. Rather then respond in kind we should try to understand them and comfort them.

That doesn't mean we should become patsies though,

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #28)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:05 AM

52. What if we Bernie supporters spent one day pretending to LOOOOOVE Hillary?

I wonder if that would be fun? No telling, I don't think I could do that because I'm too honest. Maybe people would be nice to some of us. Glad you feel better this morning.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #52)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:10 AM

53. " Glad you feel better this morning. "

Thank you for your concern...I am dealing with a nasty bout of extensor tendonitis.


I was feeling a bit down and then asked myself what WWHD (What would Hillary do) and decided it was incumbent upon me to soldier on.

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Response to Gamecock Lefty (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:50 PM

88. Bernie is on the people's side of all the issues.

 

Hillary protects the status quo.

They are like night and day. You DO have a choice and you will have to live with it.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:04 AM

29. Yup.

That's how she rolls.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:21 AM

39. Spot on.

Totally trustworthy...to do the above.

Shape Shifter in Charge.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:49 AM

51. All the goals of each indvidual Wall St shareholder.

We will all continue to live, until we cannot, in the most democracy, the most peace, the most empathy, the most reality, the most progress corporations cannot block.

Luckily for them, they don't have to block it much longer. Warming oceans, extreme weather events, collapsing fish stocks, droughts, famines and endless wars against "enemies" escaping the fires fueled and fanned by the continuing denial of the reality decades of shareholders have bequeathed us.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:11 AM

54. It is so unfortunate we have as our front runner an individual that is so distrusted by a

NOT INSIGNIFICANT number of Democrats.

Not to mention how the independents and Republicans view her. She will turn OUT the vote for the Republicans up and down the ticket.

We still have a chance to prevent this though.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:12 AM

55. I trust "new information" will lead her to "evolve" on TPP

 

and realize it really is the "gold standard" as she originally believed when she helped write it.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:13 AM

56. All of the above are

The absolute reasons the Corpirate Media,Wall St.Big Banks and the Corporate Mafia supports and Trusts her
Really

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:14 AM

58. Pretty much sums it up for me. n/t

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:23 AM

60. You speak for two in this household.

 

Thanks hootinholler! Just love your name, btw!



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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:23 AM

61. Keep them right-wing memes a-flowing...

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Response to Tarc (Reply #61)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:28 AM

62. Which ones are those?

Please be specific, I would hate to use a RW talking point about Hillary, most of them are gross exaggerations and the stuff I listed is mostly favored by the RW.



I keep hearing that phrase in this thread but no one is specific.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #61)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:54 AM

65. ...

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Response to Tarc (Reply #61)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:53 PM

92. Hillary will keep rightwing policies afloat.

 

Bernie is the progressive candidate.

You have choice. Put your vote where your heart is.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:33 PM

81. Looking at the subject line of this OP in latest threads, I thought,

poor hootinholler has lost it. Glad to see your f a c u l t i e s are still intact.

(apologies to JD Salinger.)

Wrong Salinger novel, but, wth? It's Green Day.



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Response to merrily (Reply #81)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:56 PM

96. I have yet to see any rebuttals of substance

It's a curious thing.

Oh, you should really know better than to think I've gone soft on oligarchy.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #96)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:09 PM

111. ^^THIS^^ n/t

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #96)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:34 PM

133. I agree with everything.

 

And it really pains me to see the sheeple unwittingly aiding and abetting the collapse of the United States in some desperate attempt to get a woman president at all costs.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:10 PM

100. There are no "rightwing talking points" in this OP. It is 100% progressive.

 

It speaks to core progressive values that Hillary does not share.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:15 PM

103. Yup. IF she wins the nomination, I'll hold my nose and vote for her

 

because she's going to be better than the assclowns in the other party, but I' won't magically think she is the progressive she now claims she has been forever.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:03 PM

112. I too trust Hillary to do all these things.

Trust!

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:15 PM

113. That list is scary.

Volunteer for Bernie if you can.

We can't let this be our future.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:39 PM

115. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Absolutely true on every count.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:44 PM

116. Agreed on all points. nt

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:45 PM

117. Of all that we can be sure. k&r

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:48 PM

118. ....x10+

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:53 PM

121. If I knew how to Photoshop

I'd substitute "Hillary" for "Sinclair" in this image.


If ever there was a Democrat In Nane Only, her name would be Hillary.
At least Joe Lieberman had the good grace to leave the Party when he yawed to the right!

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:30 PM

129. K and R

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:26 PM

132. HMMMM! This smells of Bernie losing!!!!!!

Another "I hate Hillary thread" with 180 recs! When you haven't got endorsements, polls or anything else going for you....resort to OPs like this and then cheer each other about it!!! Woo Hoo!!!!

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:00 AM

134. I trust her more than any of the GOP candidates especially IF she wins the nomination

First lets worry about the primaries.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:28 AM

135. An optimist is a fool I guess.

I clicked hoping this wasn't just another snarky post designed to attack one of our candidates.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:35 AM

136. Best line of your OP.

I trust her to fill her cabinet with warmongers, CIA operatives and wall street billionaires


No doubt about it!

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:54 AM

140. How cute. And in 11.5 months... you'll vote for her.

 

Despite what you are saying now.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 06:28 AM

147. HRC - Still Beholden To Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Untrustworthy

eom

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 06:45 AM

148. She is very trustworthy indeed!

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