2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDemocrats say Hillary won the second debate


45% of Democrats who are registered voters say that they watched at least clips of the debate, though only 11% say that they watched the entire debate. Of this group Hillary Clinton is regarded to have won, with 54% saying that Clinton won the debate, while 17% say that Bernie Sanders won. 6% say that Martin O'Malley won the debate.
https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/11/19/democrats-say-hillary-won-second-debate
yourout
(8,821 posts)I don't see any way she won that one.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Oh, and thank you for kicking my thread.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)You're welcome for another kick, even though this seems like bad news for my candidate.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I don't think an opinion poll says who won the debate. That isn't what "winning a debate" is about. It is about making a more convincing case and exposing your opponent as a weaker candidate and flip-flopper owned by corporate America and the military-industrial complex. Which Bernie did in spades.
If people fail to realize that, we deserve the disastrous presidency that HRC's would surely be. I weep for our democracy, sincerely, if HRC is nominated.
(I now await a snarky response, which I will ignore, so good night to you sir)
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Insulting a person and not letting him or her respond reflects more on the person doing the insulting than it can ever reflect on the person who was insulted.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I do however note that it is extremely poor form to completely change the content of a post without a note explaining the edit. Other readers may then be misled as to what the conversation really was about:

DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)EOM
OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)But, as their rankings are in line with other, more reputable polls, they get a pass this time.
Oh look:
OilemFirchen (3,154 posts)
1. Yup.
And then, here's how it plays out within the next week:
Online Polls: Sanders, That Other Guy, Armageddon
Chattering Class: O'Malley, Clinton, Sanders
Actual Polls: Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)43% of those polled didn't even know a debate had occurred. From the link in the OP ROFL.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)EOM
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)First honesty I have ever seen out of you on this subject.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)I see a trifecta coming.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)According to the PDF at YOUR link.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)lol
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And 43% of those polled didn't even know there had been a debate. The linked PDF tells the real story.
It is a poll measuring name recognition.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)EOM
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Go on back to your digging...
Oh, and just who is emotionally invested in polls?
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Why is it that every group who isn't inclined to deify him is too ill informed to know who he is?
SMH
Thank you in advance.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Now go on back to your digging.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)I would literally rather die than give you the satisfaction of responding in kind.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)That you haven't posted yet. Dig!
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Insulting me seems to be cathartic for you and being the empathetic person I am I want to help you work your way through your pain.
Please insult me again...I will be here until all the pain has left your body.
With love,
DemocratSinceBirth
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Is you vacillate between insulting me, and crying that I am insulting you.
Sorry I outed your push poll!
Not go get em tiger! Polls! Polls! Polls! Polls! Polls!
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Please insult me again...I will be here until all the pain has left your body.
-DemocratSinceBirth
Is you vacillate between insulting me, and crying that I am insulting you.
Sorry I outed your push poll!
Not go get em tiger! Polls! Polls! Polls! Polls! Polls
-Aging American
You're welcome.
Cha
(319,076 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)he looked like an angry old fart about to explode.
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)are an excellent way to visualize progress.
Thanks.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)She'll make such a great president.
I can't wait to see her continue the great legacy of success and progress that President Obama has started.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I see no way people saw what they did and O'Malley is behind Sanders in their view of who won. The outcome was clear, Clinton and O'Malley were the only two serious people on stage.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)The only polls that matter start in Iowa in a couple months.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)They would be a part of the minority that said Bernie lost another debate. Maybe it's not his forte.