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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:28 PM Nov 2015

Clinton Sheds Progressive Façade with Bold Rightward Lurch

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/11/19/clinton-sheds-progressive-facade-bold-rightward-lurch

From her call for a major air and ground war against ISIS to her attack on single-payer, Clinton appears to be sprinting full-speed to the right

From her call for a major air and ground war against ISIS to her attack on single-payer, observers note that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is rapidly shedding her "progressive" façade as she grows increasingly confident she has the Democratic nomination locked down (an assumption which, evidence shows, is debatable).

This trend comes despite her declaration during the first Democratic debate in October, after being pressed by the CNN moderator: "I don't take a backseat to anyone when it comes to progressive experience and progressive commitment."
Growing more hawkish by the day

In case there was any doubt, Clinton's much-anticipated foreign policy speech on Thursday makes it clear she plans to run on her hawkish credentials.
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Clinton Sheds Progressive Façade with Bold Rightward Lurch (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 OP
I'm glad she's decided to do this now. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #1
+1 Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #10
Or she could just ignore Foreig. policy & give some socialism speech instead misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #2
I guess you missed the large part of Bernie's speech yesterday that dealt with foreign policy... HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #4
I did listen to it. Just more of bernie stating the what without the how to misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #5
Out of his league huh? HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #9
Just another opportunity notadmblnd Nov 2015 #7
Her much ballyhooed "foreign policy experience" is highly overrated. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #8
Her call for a major what now? firebrand80 Nov 2015 #3
That didn't take long- ruffburr Nov 2015 #6
I've come to the realisation that... EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #11
She's always been a warmonger Laughing Mirror Nov 2015 #12

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
2. Or she could just ignore Foreig. policy & give some socialism speech instead
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:47 PM
Nov 2015

I'll take a Commander in Chief who is prepared to deal with the issues of Security & diplomacy in working on the global front.
The other candidate stuck his head in the sand & has avoided addressing how he would handle this crises.
Why? Because he has no clue.
Stick to domestic university stump speeches, bernie.
He can't weigh in on this issue because he has no idea what it takes.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
4. I guess you missed the large part of Bernie's speech yesterday that dealt with foreign policy...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:51 PM
Nov 2015

Or the 30 min. interview with Katie Couric.
Or the last Dem. debate.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
5. I did listen to it. Just more of bernie stating the what without the how to
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:59 PM
Nov 2015

He is good with generalizations
He has zero foreign policy knowledge.
But he sure can talk.

Bernie is seriously out of his league on this subject.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
9. Out of his league huh?
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:13 PM
Nov 2015

You must be a foreign policy expert then. I guess he was out of his league when he voted 'No' on the Iraq War Resolution, you know, the one Hillary supported.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
7. Just another opportunity
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:01 PM
Nov 2015

to get a dig in huh? When in fact you have no clue what Senator Sanders said yesterday.

On edit: actually he did say how.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
8. Her much ballyhooed "foreign policy experience" is highly overrated.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:02 PM
Nov 2015

See IWR vote, Libya, Afghanistan, Honduras, support for torture, drones, etc for indicators of her "experience".

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
6. That didn't take long-
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:59 PM
Nov 2015

I'm So Surprised (not), I'm sure the Hillary group will have all types of justifications , The facts speak volumes about exactly how Third Way New Democratic Neocon she actually is when all is said and done.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
11. I've come to the realisation that...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:33 PM
Nov 2015

"foreign policy experience" is pretty worthless if your policies are crap.

The reality is that the West is poised to again overreact to ISIS and that overreaction will probably do more damage than ISIS itself, in the same way that the reaction to 9/11 was much worse than 9/11 itself.

Clinton is a hawk, but her hawkish tendencies are not as bad as her unwillingness to admit to them.

She's either not honest with herself or deliberately misleading the public.... I don't know which is worse.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
12. She's always been a warmonger
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:47 PM
Nov 2015

Thinks it means she's being tough. It doesn't and she isn't, and the tough act is pretty unconvincing. But that's the script she acts from.

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