I'd like to hear from all the Hillary supporters

I love being called "Donald Trump", fascist, Third Way, conservative, amoral, banal, etc.

The spirit is in me! I can feel the Bern!!!!!1111

We loooovvvvveeee being called " Lilly white, latte drinking trailer trash" or "Bernie supporters, dumb as a brick and twice as thick" and berniebots and a dozen other comments as bad or worse. While all of It is wrong, no matter who says it, at least (as far as I know, I have zero first hand knowledge of name calling because I don't do that) Bernie supporters do it here on DU, don't slither off to another site and belittle and trash Bernie supporters and then come back here to DU acting as if they are captain of the SS Moral Authority.
You personally may or may not have done that, I don't know and could care less, just keep in mind that old adage: "when pissing into the wind, everyone gets a little on them"

Keep in mind this place is still crawling with moles and trolls. Hammer the ALERT button and get rid of them. It would do us all a favor.

(I also appreciate you bringing this into this thread just in case I missed it the first time... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=839450)

Your comment was about name calling and a continuation of the "Bernie supporters hate America" meme, as if you and supporters of your candidate are just victims of those mean Bernie supporters. My post was only to point out that some of the more mean-spirited and crass things I have ever seen a Dem say about another Dem were in those screenshots and clips from that other site, things they would never say here on DU as they would likely get tombstones.

While there may have been bad things said by Bernie supporters on this site, if they violated the rules, they paid the price. They didn't go off to another site, say horrible, crass things, then come back here to DU and pretend to be innocent and good.

The funny thing was, I was really starting to lean toward your candidate's supporters in this whole name calling debate until I started seeing the screenshots and clips from comments made on that other site and realized that nothing could justify talking about people that way.

First, from your above post:

" I know, I have zero first hand knowledge of name calling because I don't do that) Bernie supporters do it here on DU, don't slither off to another site and belittle and trash Bernie supporters and then come back here to DU acting as if they are captain of the SS Moral Authority. "

Then here from another thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251838762"
angrychair wrote: "While doing all these things, YOU GO TO ANOTHER SITE, that many of us have seen entries and screenshots from at this point, calling us "latte drinking white trash" and "trailer trash" and saying "Bernie supporters are dumb as bricks and twice as thick" and terms like "hippy punching", "berniebot" and "berniebro" whatever the hell that is, every description is vile and disrespectful.
"While I am sure that some Sanders supporters here have done or said things that was rude and crass, based on what I have seen from that site, those failings are nothing in comparison.
At the very least you have no right or reason to the high ground and or the attitude you carry with you on this site and should well be ashamed of your conduct (sorry, the "Bernie bros" or whatever smear you try to use, started it is a child's reason, not an adult's reason)."

In the post you responded to, l used the term "Bernie's supporters". Yet you accused me of using derogatory labels on a site I have nothing to do with, and I certainly did not post a link to it. I don't even know what the fuck site you are going on about! I am an exclusive DU poster. Of course you never responded when I called you on it, but then, what could you have written to justify the false accusation? Bottom line? You have little room to talk about "Moral Authority". I will never be ashamed of my conduct here on Democratic Underground.
Here is my original post you responded to:

"Once again, Bernie's supporters announce to the world that they believe the majority of the American democratic population is stupid, and they are just "lumps of Play-Doh".
After all, she is leading by wide margins which would indicate Bernie's supporters believe they are so stupid, they "get their ideas about politics from politicians". It's the only conclusion one can arrive at concerning the above statement, and whether the statement is true, partly true, or just more horseshit, this tactic isn't winning Bernie or his supporters any fans."

Thanks for the immediate and definitive demonstration.

I repeat: LOL. I'm sure you, Sid Dithers, and Mineral Man have *ALL* had your minds changed! nt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=842270

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Needless, juvenile and completely unnecessary call out of DUers who aren't even participating in this thread. Looks like a few posters have gotten under this person's skin.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 23, 2015, 11:32 PM, and the Jury voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

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Explanation: Ignorant personal attack.

It would take a BIG SCANDAL (or if she died in her sleep, heaven forbid) before I'd switch my vote. And even then, my primary vote would go to Martin O'Malley ... NOT Bernie.

margin. That is why I finally decided to support her.

I continue to learn about the candidates, and if her place on my score sheet changes before June 19, 2016, then I would change my vote.

I finally decided support her because nobody is even close and I tended to take her sides in most discussions.

But she doesn't own my vote until it is cast.

Now, I fully expect she will have won the nomination by the end of March, early April at the latest. As a California resident, my choice would simply be a coronation.

I had to read the question 3 times

and Hillary well below (like if she fell on her head again and start sounding like Trump or something), then I would switch. But how likely is that?

ABOVE ALL, WE HAVE TO ELECT A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT.

In addition to battling fascism and stopping the transfer of power and wealth from We the People to the top 0.01%, the next president will probably name at least 2 and as many as 4 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.

Hillary is above 50% and Bernie is around 30%. That leaves under 20% undecided. If they all break for Bernie (not likely) then some Hillary folks would have to switch to Bernie for him to win the nomination.

I think Nate Silver addresses your question in this article:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dear-media-stop-freaking-out-about-donald-trumps-polls/

"When you see an Iowa poll, you should keep in mind that the real situation looks something more like this:"

(I'll ballpark roughly covert his poll from GOP to Dem):
Undecided 80% (includes leans)
Clinton 12%
Sanders 7%
O'Malley 1%

It's a little early for "Hillary can't lose"

Hillary definitely has the advantage with that big lead and therefore a much better chance but there's 70 days to go and that's a long time in Politics. Ask David Vitter.

Pro Hill 100%. That said, I do think we need to be proactive and arrange for the mental health professionals and grief councilors that will be needed when Bernie is trounced.

I will only vote for Sanders if he beats Clinton and is our nominee in the fall.

A Third Way, NeoLiberal, Corporatist DINO because I'm a Clinton fan not to mention I've been banned from the Bernie place I'd say definitely not.

we would probably be screwn.


I am just not as confident that O'Malley or Sanders can win a national election.

He could well put Louisiana or Montana in play. Maybe even West-Virginia.

The "meh" candidate that isn't trusted by 30% of Democrats. Yeah, lets go with that one.

the dems are not the only place to get votes. the "deficit" could be made up by non dems, especially in open primary states where they can decide last minute.

drop like a brick. No way he wins the White House.

Clinton has been taking GOP (and some LW) shit for years and gives it back as good or better. She is tough, informed, has good policy proposals and has a knack for leadership.

HRC >>> 2016!!

Sanders has done well, and supports a lot of things important to this country. I just don't think he can get us very far with our current political realities.

Cheese, maybe?

I frankly don't give a rat's tail end what they say about her here. If anything, the vitriol is only helping to entrench support for Hillary. The non-stop vile is counterproductive.

Right, it's only fair... because that's what they've demanded of Bernie supporters.

Not lifting a finger to help him get there though.