Overheard At The Pub: "The Thing Is... Hillary Could Be The WORST Thing For The Democratic Party...

[WillyT]

And The Country !!!"

And some smart-ass responds, "Yeah... and that's if she wins!"

Laughter ensued...

[JoePhilly]

1. Sounds like you hang out in a RW pub.

[NurseJackie]

2. Ooph!

[WillyT]

3. No... Working Class... You Know, The Ones Democrats Used To Attract ???

Almost all are Democrats, they just ain't eating the dogfood anymore.

[BootinUp]

5. Sounds like people who don't do their part

to make the party stronger ( by VOTING and other means of support ) want to complain. Ironic.

[WillyT]

6. Man... You Really Need To Get Caught Up...

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027375259

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251842754

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026410677

[cantbeserious]

38. Thank You For Sharing

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[Ed Suspicious]

55. Oh, god. Run with that. Please.

[OilemFirchen]

18. Around these parts the working class drink in BARS. (n/t)

[Art_from_Ark]

22. There are quite a few working class pubs in places like Boston

Heck, the pub that inspired the setting for the TV show "Cheers" was the (former) Bull and Finch Pub in Boston.

https://cheersboston.com/locations/beacon

[OilemFirchen]

23. Of course. It's Boston ferchrissakes.

You're in Arkansas?

How many working-class pubs in your neighborhood?

[Art_from_Ark]

26. See for yourself

http://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=pubs&find_loc=Bentonville%2C+AR

[OilemFirchen]

34. Can you get a Bud for $1.50?

Yeah, I've got a brewpub across the street. Six bucks for a 12-oz. Winter Wheat Boysenberry IPA.

I'm guessing you have a different definition of "working-class".

[Major Hogwash]

37. I guess you have a different definition for beer!

Winter Wheat Boysenberry IPA??

What the hell is that?
Some watered-down, fruity drink that tastes like someone pissed in a bottle??
Boysenberry??
Who the fuck drinks anything with boysenberry in it?

[OilemFirchen]

43. Okay. I made it up.

So I checked. They do have "Lucky Star R U Hoppy Now".

Also, tapped on premises:

Thin Mint Stout
Up 5th Creek Wheat Wine

Maybe no boysenberries, but I have a feeling it wouldn't hurt...

[Art_from_Ark]

39. What's your idea of working class?

If people from the Walmart warehouses hang out at Beef O'Brady's Pub, does that count?

[OilemFirchen]

42. What's your definition of a pub?

I don't think our seminal poster is speaking about Beef O'Brady's.

Here's the bar a block east of me:



A working-class "Nite Club", 'cause you can crash there.

Here's the one another block east:



Not as swank, mind you, but they do have a patio.

Does that help?

[Art_from_Ark]

44. There aren't any places looking like those in my "neighborhood"

There might be some places like those in Springdale, like maybe the Dew Drop Inn, but the ones in my neighborhood are new, because public drinking establishments were legalized just a couple of years ago in my county.

[freshwest]

41. Not as much fun as this place. Working class before Reagan:

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Which was a step above a honky-tonk where the real political destiny of the nation is decided.

[1StrongBlackMan]

77. LOL. n/t

[Gloria]

65. Apparently spending more time destroying their brains by drinking.....

They may be Reagan Dems...whatever that unholy mix is...

[JoePhilly]

71. You think all working class clubs are populated by mostly Demcorats??

I've spent a great deal of time in "working class pubs" in my life. And I have never encountered one in which almost everyone was from the same political party.

And this might sound strange to you, but there are lots of "working class" Republicans out there.

So again, maybe you are confused. At least it sounds that way.

But hey, being the political savant that you are, I'm sure you asked them how they felt about Trump, Cruz and Carson.

What did they say when you asked?

Or did you spend the evening explaining to them why they should stay home if Hillary is the nominee?

[Cali_Democrat]

10. LOL!

[randys1]

76. Yep...sounds like that to me too.

[NCTraveler]

4. Republican precinct meet up?

Sorry, don't mean to interrupt.

[WillyT]

7. See Post #6...

[NCTraveler]

8. See post 4.

[freshwest]

46. See Post 41: Before the Reagan betrayal of workers, women, gays, etc. After Reagan:

Then let's go and check out small towns with statues for worshipping dairy cows. Where cowboys leave cow manure during the night at the base just to keep it real:

[sabrina 1]

25. Sounded like one of those old Democratic Meet-ups we used to have when we talked about ISSUES.

[NCTraveler]

61. The op mentions no issues.

Interesting you can read that and come to your conclusion about a meeting of drunk republicans. Great issues being discussed in the op. Lol

With some of the resent claims about Sanders winning fifty states it doesn't surprise me someone could read this as a pro Sanders post.

[ibegurpard]

62. And Camp Weathervane knows "no issues" better than anyone

[NCTraveler]

63. That's must be more of the issue Sabrina1...

Says she gets out of the op. Thanks for answering for her.

[sabrina 1]

64. That poll really upset you terribly. Still fuming over a Social Media poll where Bernie did win

in every state. How long ago was that now, months? There have been so many more too since then it's hard to keep up, and Bernie keeps on winning, all of them.

I think I'll post a few others I didn't have time to post since then.

I'll issue a warning first though so that anyone who might be as adversely affected as you and another unfortunate soul here were, can avoid it for the sake of their health.

Seriously it's bad for you to let a few polls get to you like that.

[NCTraveler]

72. What poll? Can you link it? Nt

[Starry Messenger]

11. Retirees? Who drinks in a bar on a work night?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

45. Working people.

Pain, exhaustion, depression, alienation, my ass getting canned soon because the board of directors decided to liquidate my division for 80M cash.

[Starry Messenger]

47. I have to get up at 5 am to teach class.

My bar days are long behind me.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

48. I have to get up at 5 am too.

And soon, shovel snow all day long. I'm getting too old for this but I have no choice.

[Major Hogwash]

49. I'll probably have to get up at 5 AM, too!

My damn cat comes down the hall and meows to go outside to take care of business, and he meows so loud he could wake the dead!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

51. lol,

at least its not you howling to relieve yourself at 5 am!

[Major Hogwash]

52. My old man.

I guess you don't know what a working stiff is.

[Starry Messenger]

56. Yeah, I do, since I am one.

I haven't spent a weeknight out at a bar during my entire working life. Fun is for weekends.

[ibegurpard]

60. Jesus you people are out of touch

[Starry Messenger]

69. "you people" lol

[randys1]

78. No shit, eh

[polly7]

66. ummmm ........... happy hour?

My friend owns the bar here and I help her out from time to time - it's packed right after everyone's workday is done for a few hours. People like to unwind ... a lot of the spouses/partners come down to meet them. And the drinks are cheaper!

[Major Hogwash]

12. Hey, Willy, you're going to love this one, just love it.

One of the guys I work with is telling everyone he knows to vote for Trump!!!
I asked him if he was serious, that he wants Trump to be President.
And he said yes, so I asked him why.
He said "Because Trump will get things done."

Now who does that sound like?

[WillyT]

13. LOL !!! - Yeah... They Get Things Done.... Mainly For Their Friends And Themselves...

[sabrina 1]

27. And the scary thing is he might get his wish. Trump says he wants Hillary to win the nomination

because 'she'll be easier to beat'. He KNOWS that Bernie is beating him in all the polls. Hillary much weaker in the GE.

[Major Hogwash]

29. Remember clear back to August, almost 90 days ago, when all of the pundits said . . .

. . . Trump won't be the frontrunner by the end of September???

Where are all of those wise sage douchebags now??

[sabrina 1]

30. Lol, I remember! And we will be saying the same thing about all those traditional polls

that we are being flooded with hourly.

All the old conventional wisdom and old style methodologies of polling, are so decades ago.

Trump is resonating only because he doesn't sound like the politicians we have become so accustomed to.

But Bernie is beating him pretty much everywhere.

IF the Dem party wants to win the GE, they need to get behind the guy who can do it for them.

[99th_Monkey]

54. Trump's Hillary's stalking horse, to scare voters into voting for her, Bill told Trump to run.

That's how 'cozy' the Big Club that Geo. Carlin talked about has become these daze.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

Of course both Trump and Bill deny it ever happened:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/bill-clinton-denies-calling-donald-trump-2016-run-stephen-colbert-214499
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/07/politics/trump-clinton-cnn-lemon-phone-call/

[silenttigersong]

68. Yeah!

^^^^^^^+1000

[fbc]

14. For those of you having trouble getting this:

The first part, "Hillary Could Be The WORST Thing For The Democratic Party", is because she polls so poorly in the battleground states that her nomination is basically the only way the democrats could lose the general election despite all their structural advantages.

The second part, "Yeah... and that's if she wins!" is a reference to how her center-right positions would disillusion a whole new generation of voters.

[leftofcool]

15. Were they serving tea at this party?

[randys1]

79. Women will be killed if the GOP has their way, it is what the GOP wants to do, kill Women.

[msongs]

16. the Bernie Sanders forum pub lol nt

[WillyT]

28. Yep... There Are Thousands Of Locals Around The Country...

[TheFarseer]

17. Democrats should be the party of the working people

but some of us have forgotten that. Working class people in Nebraska I talk to think the Democrats are worthless for getting good jobs because they push regulation that kills jobs and they're as corrupt or even more-so than Republicans. They think we only want to help illegal immigrants and homeless. The worst thing is, I don't agree but I can see why they think that. Democratic politicians need to do more to keep good jobs in the U.S. and make sure we are pushing regulation that makes sense. Sorry if this upsets anyone, but I think we are losing our way a little as a party when working people can't tell who's on their side.

[WillyT]

19. That's Right... But They've Abandoned Us...

[Major Hogwash]

35. Just like the unions, they've sold out to the corporatists!!!

It's unreal.
Totally unbelievable.
How a union member can support his union after they endorse a warmonger for President is beyond me.
I'd quit that union if my union pulled that shit.

[WillyT]

36. It's Charlie Sheen... "WINNING"

Or some such crap...

[Major Hogwash]

40. They're going to look like complete fools in March.

They'll say, "Oh, all right, we endorse Bernie, after all" after he creams Hillary on Super Tuesday!!!

[redstateblues]

80. bernie will get crushed in the south on Super Tuesday

count on it

[Doctor_J]

20. I think this will be the end of it as we've known it for nearly 100 years

CLinton might as well be running in the Republican primary. She's in favor of drilling, TPP, SS cuts, for-profit insurance mandates for everyone, charter schools, poverty wages, more war, banks running amok, bigger pentagon budget, ...

The millennials are not going to vote for this shit. They certainly won't join the party led by a flip-flopping weather vane who supports the things in paragraph one. Another wasted opportunity by the party big shots. They keep the insurance and wall street money rolling in, but are turning off literally millions of potential democrats.

[WillyT]

21. "... turning off literally millions of potential democrats."

Right there... WORD !!!

[MisterP]

24. they'd just say "SCOTUS! SCOTUS!" and wag their fingers and threaten to call our mother

like we're Billy Bibbit: as Stalin slowly died his underlings lost control of the situation--as they ranted about the usual CIA-Jewish-Christian-Zinovieviete-Trotskyist conspiracy that was eroding the very foundation of every town, the local Party members and villagers just started razzing them

[quickesst]

31. Haha....

It looks as though all Bernie's supporters can do anymore is walk around in a circle pattin' each other on the back hoping the pat they're recieving is more genuine than the one they're giving.

[CreekDog]

32. First, I'm a Hillary supporter, Second, I know this is a copycat thread

Nevertheless, the OP is extremely unimpressive.

[WillyT]

33. Wow... That Would Be Cool... I'm Sitting At A Bar With A Fellow DUer ???

Link please...

Would love to meet 'em.

[CreekDog]

50. They want to know if you're going to talk about Putin

[freshwest]

75. Or how great Trump is...

[redstateblues]

81. It's getting harder for WillyT

to come up with any original Hillary bashing threads-hence the copycat threads

[applegrove]

53. Trying to start a GOP 'buzz' here I see.

[freshwest]

59. LOL!

Dance and stay warm up there!

[PatrickforO]

57. So how'd they feel about Bernie?

Any news there?

[WillyT]

58. Some Are For... Some Ain't Sure Yet...

[Warren DeMontague]

67. This apparently has turned into the thread where people are trying to outdo each other

by claiming the bar they spend their time in is more run-down than the other guy's.

[Adrahil]

70. So is your premise that these are Bernie voters?

Or maybe that they vote R, but would vote D if only our candidates wee more left wing? Based on what? If you track why working class people vote R, it's not because our candidates aren't leftist enough. they were suckere in by socila issues and racism as part of the Southern Strategy.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

73. ...

[smiley]

74. K&R

you know an op has gotten under the skin of the corporate loyalists when they start posting copycat threads.

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