Atlanta's Killer Mike Just Helped Bernie Sanders Win the White House in 2016

[Bubzer]

The Clinton campaign's worst nightmare is coming true. Watching Run the Jewels' rapper Killer Mike introduce Bernie Sanders in Atlanta was one of the most powerful and inspiring moments of this election. Shattering the notion that Sanders only appeals to white liberals, The Huffington Post writes that "Killer Mike cited Sanders' stance on the Voting Rights Act, health care, education and ending the war on drugs" as reasons to vote for Bernie Sanders. Everyone from Rolling Stone to POLITICO wrote about the event, including a video in The Washington Post titled Killer Mike calls Bernie Sanders 'the next president of the United States.'

In fact, Killer Mike's words will eventually be deemed prescient, since he just won Bernie Sanders the White House. I explained in July how his advocacy of Sanders spelled trouble for Clinton, however this time it's different. At this crucial juncture, when polls are being conducted specifically for Hillary Clinton's campaign (The Hill writes that "Clinton won the debate, Public Policy Polling (PPP) found in its survey, conducted for the pro-Clinton super-PAC Correct The Record&quot , Killer Mike wasn't paid by a super-Pac.

He's not a part of the DNC and isn't planning on making the next debate scheduled on a Sunday at 4:30 am in the morning. No, Killer Mike doesn't fear the political revolution that the Democratic establishment so desperately is trying to stop; even pushing Joe Biden to run didn't work.

What Killer Mike did was help usher a new paradigm of political consciousness among all Americans, and especially the same voting demographic that Clinton supporters have gleefully placed within a poll number. Ironically, not only do poll numbers change rapidly, but human beings change their views on whom to vote for, and this change is dependent upon a number of factors that poll numbers don't reflect.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/killer-mike-bernie-sanders_b_8645708.html

[SidDithers]

1. Goodman. LOL...nt

Sid

[rhett o rick]

8. Not surprised you don't like Killer Mike. Too progressive. nm

[SidDithers]

11. Goodman is the Baghdad Bob of the 2016 Primary season...

Sid

[A Simple Game]

60. Baghdad Bob, Baghdad Bob? Oh yeah, he's that spokesperson guy from the war Hillary voted for!

Thanks for the reminder Sid.

Say, Sid, why didn't Canada join in on that excursion? Too weak, too busy, not invited, or maybe just too smart?

[cui bono]

134. hehe...

[99Forever]

146. Oh snap.

[Bubzer]

61. If Goodman was the only one saying this, you might be onto somthing. But he's not!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251846618

[1StrongBlackMan]

76. Or, perhaps too libertarian. n/t

[rhett o rick]

141. So are you saying that you don't approve of Killer Mike? nm

[1StrongBlackMan]

150. Actually, I, Like Sid, was referring to a disapproval of Goodman. ...

I like KM's music and activism just fine.

[OilemFirchen]

27. Didn't even have to click.

H.A. H.A. Goodone!

[leftofcool]

67. Oh Lordy!

[Faux pas]

2. Kickin'

[Bubzer]

22. Thank you!

[smiley]

3. kick'n

so it keeps from sink'n!

Feel'n the Bern!

[Bubzer]

6. Thanks!

[FlatBaroque]

4. I have been following politics for 30+ years

and that endorsement was the most powerful I have ever seen. Not as powerful as Rahm Emanuel endorsing Hillary, but still very powerful.

[LWolf]

16. Rahm endorsing Hillary IS quite powerful.

It says everything that needs to be said.

I'll have to go looking for KMs introduction of Sanders; I haven't seen it yet.

[Bubzer]

20. Yikes! didn't know Rahm Emanuel was endorsing hillary. Thats not going to do her any favors.

[LWolf]

38. It's no real surprise.

Emmanuel has been a powerful figure in the neo-liberal takeover of the Democratic Party that the Clintons ushered in.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rahm-emanuel-endorses-hillary-2016

[senz]

44. LOL It's perfect!

[Enthusiast]

104. Yes, it is.

Perfect.

Apparently they do not realize we can see through their sleazebaggery.

[SoapBox]

98. Perfectly said!

I can't stand the skeeze bag.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

176. Centrists stick together

[Hepburn]

177. Maybe that's why he did it??? LOL! n/t

[FlatBaroque]

64. here you go

[LWolf]

68. No wonder.

No wonder the Clinton faithful are up in arms. Powerful, to say the least.

[FlatBaroque]

70. My Fav KM tune

[LWolf]

77. That certainly

resonates with me!

[artislife]

163. Thanks for posting! nt

[Hiraeth]

90. Rahm

lol

[MaggieD]

5. LOL!

Ok.

[rhett o rick]

7. k & r. Thanks for posting. nm

[Bubzer]

12. You're welcome!

[Freddie Stubbs]

9. This guy has proven that he doesn't know jack about electoral politics:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/16/us/killer-mike-write-in-candidate/

[99th_Monkey]

24. Mike never claimed to be an 'electoral politics' expert, in fact, he's an inveterate 'outsider'

who had pretty much given up on "lesser of evils" politics altogether.

"I am beginning to see American political families like monarchs and I have no affection for monarchs." ~Killer Mike [/div class="excerpt"]

Which BTW is probably why he decided to endorse Bernie Sanders, who stands out as the rarest of politicians, one who -- unlike Clinton -- refuses to be bought-out by the highest lobbyist bidders; and who is not a member of the Oligarchy's 'big club'.

[NorthCarolina]

10. K&R

Killer Mike's introduction in Atlanta was nothing short of exceptional.

[Bubzer]

14. It was amazing wasn't it?

[NorthCarolina]

15. You could tell his

voice was starting to crack a bit as he spoke. It doesn't get more heartfelt than that.

[Bubzer]

18. It's nice to have people speak so positively about Bernie!

[oasis]

13. "Killer" revelation, because I'm dying with laughter.

[Major Hogwash]

17. I think so, too.

And now Bernie will sweep the Southern states, as well.
The racial divide in this campaign couldn't be clearer -- Hillary wants to SEPARATE the races within the party to keep division between Democrats at a high level -- while Bernie wants all Democrats of all races to COME TOGETHER!!!

[1StrongBlackMan]

78. LOL ... That made me laugh. n/t

[Hiraeth]

94. of course it did. where are you from again?

[1StrongBlackMan]

113. Where do I currently live? n/t

[Hiraeth]

116. Oh! Oh!! I can play that passive aggressive game, too!! Are you saying that where you currently live

is where you are from, as in, born and raised?

[1StrongBlackMan]

122. What the hell are you talking about? n/t

[Hiraeth]

135. straight up dude: where are you from?

[1StrongBlackMan]

138. Born in Cleveland ... Benn in Arizona 20+ years. n/t

[Squinch]

160. WTF?

Re-read 1SBM's post and then read yours.

You are taking offense and being insulting for no reason.

I think in the past I have liked your posts. This one sucks.

[Hiraeth]

161. Answering a question with a question is what he did.

Can be but not always a typical p/a tactical and in this instance I believe it was. Excuse me if I am wrong.

[Squinch]

162. Don't tell me to excuse you. I'm not the one you shat on because he asked you to be clearer.

[Hiraeth]

164. My apologies. Evidently, you were asking for clarification and I took it

For snark. I thought my question straightforward. Sorry for any confusion.

[1StrongBlackMan]

167. LOL ... It's easier to shake hands when you take off your boxing gloves.

We all do it.

[leftofcool]

125. LMAO

[NCTraveler]

19. Hard to tell Paul supporters like Goodman from Sanders supporters these days.

Well, the election is over. Paulite Goodman has said so. Pack it up and go home. The comedic value around here is increasing every day.

[Bubzer]

21. If he's a Paul supporter, it's proof that Bernie's appeal crosses the isle. Thanks for that!

[NCTraveler]

26. I have stated over and over again that Sanders appeals to Paul supporters.

You are very welcome. There is a reason Paul is desperately trying to debate Sanders and why he sends volunteers to Sanders events to pass out literature. He wants his voters back.

[OilemFirchen]

33. And vice versa.

Of course.

[NCTraveler]

37. Vice versa what? Sanders is sending volunteers to Paul events? Wouldn't surprise me.

I think he should concentrate on get out the vote considering his supporters aren't even aware if he is registering voters at his events. But it's his campaign to run.

[OilemFirchen]

40. I wouldn't know about Paul events.

But crossover appeal is crossover appeal. Goes both ways.

[NCTraveler]

45. I agree with you. The two are taking support from one and other. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

79. Which SHOULD be troubling for participants of a board called "DemocraticUnderground" ...

But I guess not!

[NCTraveler]

82. I posted two ops stating my concern over this yesterday.

It should be viewed as troubling to progressives. I'm really finally starting to see it. The connection is clear.

[1StrongBlackMan]

95. Please link to them (or PM me) ...

I'd like to compare thoughts. Thanks.

[Bubzer]

99. I see no reason to be concerned. What I see is concervatives waking up to GOP tactics.

Many conservatives are moving more and more left away from the extreme right of the GOP. Bernie Sanders represents a voice of reason in a sea of fascists and corporatists.

[NCTraveler]

103. This is what I no longer buy into in any way. The rhetoric here is why.

The absurdity of claiming that one is moving from the "extreme right of the GOP" and are now honest supporters of the left is blatantly intellectually dishonest. I'm not sure how it can even be typed with a straight face.

[Bubzer]

115. Let's be fair. I didn't say they'de be honest supporters of the left. They're still conservatives.

However, some of them are waking up to the screwing-over they're receiving from the extreme right. In many cases, Bernie Sanders represents the least of what they see as a bunch of bad options.

[artislife]

165. I see it as people who hate the Fed.

I have "friends" who are very Left on social issues but really against the Fed. That is their number one priority and last election, I talked one of them out of voting for Rand because of a point by point vote count on social issues. They were almost willing to overlook the bad votes because of the Fed talk.



The thing is, this country is made up of groups with different number one issues. All those Left "friends" ( I am too right for them for them to completely trust me..lol)are now Bernie supporters or they are nonvoters. They just push the causes they care about but have no interest in the political machine, because they believe it is rigged.

[LiberalLovinLug]

117. What is wrong with crossover appeal?

It is what any candidate needs to win the White House. Not every position but at least enough to tip the balance. A clock is right twice a day. Paul (especially pappa Paul) is right about the senseless war on drugs, and right about stopping wars of aggression. Are you against these positions simply because the Pauls may be for them? Or the overreach of the NSA? Just because you agree with one or two positions of someone from the other party does not mean you support that party in general.

Hillary has crossover appeal also. Hers are the old school Republican voters who don't like the crazy baggers taking over their party who regularly threaten (or do) shut down the government and waste money and time on baseless inquiries. She appeals to the easily frightened xenophobic conservative who thinks more war is always the answer. She also appeals to the politically ignorant who do not understand the difference between Stalinist totalitarianism (wrongly dubbed "socialism&quot and the type of democratic socialism that Bernie promotes.

[Bubzer]

123. Cross-over appeal is great! Though some might think otherwise.

I see Bernie as possibly being a gateway-drug, so to speak, to progressive thinking, for those on the right.
This is something hillary could never do. They despise her way too much for that.

[firebrand80]

23. As Killer Mike goes, so goes the nation

Seriously people, take it down a few notches

[Bubzer]

30. On the contrary, the volume on this needs to be turned up.

Let's add a little fuel to the fire:

With the help of Cornel West, Killer Mike, Lil B, Nina Turner, an influential activist within the Latino community named Cesar Vargas, and so many other non-white Democrats who don't fit into a poll number (derived from a landline call in the middle of the day), Bernie Sanders will quickly erase any lead held by Hillary Clinton.

So, what happens when more African Americans, Latinos, and other non-white Democrats learn about Bernie Sanders?

Since the only thing keeping Clinton's lead is the support of non-white Democrats, some questions need to be asked after Killer Mike's endorsement in Atlanta.

Why would black or Latino voters choose Hillary Clinton in 2016 if she's the only Democrat running who has been funded by two major prison lobbyists? According to a Vice News article titled How Private Prisons Are Profiting From Locking Up US Immigrants, "Clinton's Ready for Hillary PAC received $133,246 from lobbying firms linked to GEO and CCA."

[firebrand80]

65. POC are the only reason Hillary is leading

^this sounds a lot like what Republicans say about the Democratic party

[Bubzer]

71. They do say that a lot... but this isn't about what they say. This isn't about Dems vs the GOP.

This is a case of hillary vs. Bernie. Just because the GOP happens to mention it doesn't make it less relevant regarding hillary vs. Bernie.

Besides there's no shortage of GOP tactics, and talking points for that matter, being employed by hillary, her surrogates and supporters. So, suggesting this is an invalid argument also invalidates a significant portion of hilary's talking points.

[1StrongBlackMan]

81. Interesting that, huh? ...

Never mind that HRC is leading in every demographic, save Millennials. n/t

[artislife]

166. Who happen to be the largest group

UNE 25, 2015 — Millennials, or America's youth born between 1982 and 2000, now number 83.1 million and represent more than one quarter of the nation's population. Their size exceeds that of the 75.4 million baby boomers, according to new U.S. Census Bureau estimates released today.Jun 25, 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
if you scroll you will see roughly 40 million Blacks in America.
Roughly 50.5 million Latinos in America

Granted, all three groups have some of the numbers not old enough to vote....

[hughee99]

83. Holy Shit! Cornel West, Killer Mike, Lil B, AND Nina Turner

After a few minutes of thinking about it (and 2 google searches for "Lil B" and "Nina Turner&quot , I'm now convinced that Sanders has too much star power on his side to lose.

Killer fucking Mike! Are you serious! Clinton couldn't compete with that if she got her introduction from Oprah and Jesus.

[Bleacher Creature]

25. This has crossed into full blown delusion mode.

"Worst nightmare"? This reads like a tryout for the Onion.

[smiley]

39. I feel the same way....

Whenever I see someone call Clinton a liberal. N/T

[Bubzer]

55. Right? She's a moderate. She's admitted as much.

[Hiraeth]

97. yeah, a moderate republican I don't care if she is running as a democrat. These two terms

are so outdated as to be not even useful anymore, bordering on obsolete. Both parties are so splintered that I think we are beginning to see a new party arise out of the ashes of both the old R and D parties. This is the political revolution people would be talking about.

[Bubzer]

102. The interesting thing is the political spectrum is extremely distorted right now.

So much so, that being a "moderate" is equivalent to being a mainstream republican.

[Hiraeth]

107. pretty much, yeah.

[Menshunables]

28. This is great news for Bernie, and the country.

Go Mike! He is wonderful for helping elect Bernie.

[mcar]

29. ..

[Buzz Clik]

31. Bernie's answer to Joe the Plumber.

A winning plan, no doubt.

[Walk away]

179. I knew if I stuck with this thread long enough I would hit Gold!!!!

[MineralMan]

32. H. A. Goodman is a hip-hop fan?

Who knew?

What claptrap! Celebrity endorsements affect almost no votes whatsoever.

Hillary Clinton has support from hip-hop artists, too. It's all meaningless, but if Half Assed Goodman writes something, you know it's meaningless from the byline and all the way down.

[Bubzer]

56. Meaningless, just like when pollsters are paid to show hillary is leading.

[Bubzer]

63. Well, here's another source you can consider.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251846618
Glad you like the graphic!

I'll definitely keep it now!

[Enthusiast]

108. That graphic had me convulsing with laughter.

[Android3.14]

101. No need to get all huffy...

Have a seat and calm down.

[1StrongBlackMan]

84. See Post #73. n/t

[rhett o rick]

148. If you don't like the message, attack the messanger. nm

[cantbeserious]

34. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[DCBob]

35. LOL!

This is like reading the Onion!

[moobu2]

36. I'm wondering if there is any limit to H.A. Goodman's misinformation campaign

in support for Bernie Sanders. It doesn't look like it.

[Bleacher Creature]

41. The misinformation itself is amusing.

The fact that plenty of people on this site (as evidenced by a few of the responses in this thread) take it seriously, is downright terrifying.

Reality is going to hit some people really hard after the actual votes are cast.

[JaneyVee]

42. Is this satire?

[JaneyVee]

46. If you thing black voters will flock to a candidate because...

Of an endorsement from a pro-2nd Amendment rapper, it is because you're white.

[JaneyVee]

52. So then I guess Bernie will start surging soon.

And you're not white? But you believe black voters are monolithic and will flock to a candidate because of a rappers endorsement?

[Orrex]

58. Well, it's Sanders' responsibility to create that opportunity for himself

Rhetorically, you're staking out an excuse for when Sanders fails to win the primary; if it can be shown that he didn't secure the votes of people of color, then it can be claimed that "the opportunity (didn't) present itself." You're handing him a get-out-of-responsibility-free card.

If he hopes to make progress among these voters, what is he waiting for? We're told that he's been a civil rights champion for decades; when does he plan to work this into his strategy? He knows that the primaries are fast approaching, right?

[freedom fighter jh]

91. There's plenty of blame to go around.

If Bernie loses, it will be at least in part because the MSM have done their best to ignore him (even if that's starting to break down) and the DNC has limited debate in a way that favors Hillary.

The media have treated him as a joke and have pretended he does not exist.

[Orrex]

110. That's a valid point, but...

He knew (or certainly should have known) that he would be facing this when he started. If it wasn't part of his strategy from the beginning, then one has to wonder why.

[freedom fighter jh]

153. I'm sure he knew.

When his campaign took off, he seemed stunned. He knew he was a longshot.

So he must have known about the forces arrayed against him. But knowing that you're being treated unfairly leaves you only at slightly less of a disadvantage than you were before you knew. He's still been treated unfairly.

[Orrex]

154. Perhaps, but consider...

One thing he's been able to count on so far is that the GOP has ignored him because they don't see him as a threat. But if he were to make it onto the ballot, they would turn their multi-billion-dollar arsenal against him, and what are now seen as attacks by unconvinced Democrats will seem like ringing endorsements by comparison.

I will state again that I will happily vote for him if he wins the nomination, and I will support him whole-heartedly, but it seems no more likely now than when he declared his candidacy.

[freedom fighter jh]

169. If he's a threat to Hillary, then he's a threat to the GOP

and I'm sure they see him as such. I listed to right-wing talk radio in the car. It keeps me angry enough for good blood circulation. I have not heard anyone refer to Bernie by name, but the frequency of reminders of how terrible communism is -- and how socialism is just as bad -- has gone way up. Looks like they're preparing for the possibility of a Bernie nomination. Yes, you're right that they'll dial it way, way up if he gets nominated. Bernie can handle it.

[Orrex]

170. Maybe that's the bottom line then: he's *not* a threat to Hillary

At least, not seriously. Ergo he's no threat at all to the GOP.

As for whether or not Bernie can handle the GOP's full-strength attacks? No way to tell, because he's faced nothing like them in his career, whereas Clinton can shrug them off like a puff of smoke, as she has done for decades.

Time will tell, of course, and I'll be completely willing to recant if I'm shown to be wrong.

[Orrex]

106. "Question is, is there enough time left?"

That is indeed the question.

Before I proceed, I must disclaim that I have never believed that Sanders would be able to win the nomination, so I don't want to seem disingenuous here. I have nothing against him or his politics, and I will happily vote for him in Nov 2016 if he makes it on the ticket, but the odds have been sharply against him from the outset.

At the start of his campaign, his biggest liability was his near-anonymity, and if he hasn't successfully introduced himself to a major voting demographic at this point, then anonymity is still a huge liability. However great his policies might be, they won't do him any good if no one outside of Vermont knows who he is. His supporters should be encouraged by his progress in SC, but it shows that there's still a lot to do.

[Hiraeth]

159. And exactly what color are you?

[1StrongBlackMan]

87. I'm a Black Man and doubt that KM's speech and endorsement will have much

effect on Communities of Color.

And it will certainly have less of an effect than the endorsement of Pharrell, Beyonce, Snoop, Kayne, and Jay Z (all of whom have a much larger following within Communities of Color) of HRC.

(That is if any celebrity endorsement have any effect, at all!)

[Android3.14]

118. uh-huh

Whatever you say.

[1StrongBlackMan]

124. What about what I wrote do you doubt? n/t

[Android3.14]

126. .

[1StrongBlackMan]

133. What is that supposed to mean? n/t

[cui bono]

136. Yeah, what does Killer Mike know, he's just an "outlier".

[1StrongBlackMan]

144. Yes. He is. Both in terms of the Black electorate AND ...

among the greatest names in Hip-Hop.

[wildeyed]

171. Imagine if it was Big Boi instead.

We could probably just cancel the election.

[1StrongBlackMan]

173. Nahhh ... But if it were Andre ... I don't know? n/t

[wildeyed]

174. Big Boi is a Libertarian, so there is that.

He could deliver all the black voters AND the college Republicans. This is totally a good plan.

[smiley]

88. Bingo!

[WillyT]

47. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[Buzz Clik]

50. Really?

[Bubzer]

57. Anytime!

[Orrex]

49. As long as Mike votes for Hillary in Nov 2016, it's all good.

[Buzz Clik]

53. If he wants to vote for Bernie in Nov 2016, he'll need to bring a pencil.

[Hiraeth]

120. Man of La Mancha

[sufrommich]

66. What's H.A. Goodman's DU screen name? nt

[Action_Patrol]

69. That headline

Broke my hyperbole meter.

[oberliner]

72. HA Goodman is nothing if not consistent

Literally everything he writes lately is along this same theme.

[1StrongBlackMan]

73. I disagree ...

a small sliver of KM's 250+K insta-gram, and 170K Twitter, followers might be swayed towards Bernie ... well, maybe into taking a look at Bernie. I think it folly and/or wishful thinking, that masses of people who are not already politically engaged, will become engaged because of a celebrity endorsement.

Just like I doubt that the endorsements of Pharrell, Beyonce, Snoop, Kayne, and Jay Z (each of whom have a far larger following) will have much have much effect on moving youth to vote for HRC.

[AzDar]

74. K & R

[lunamagica]

75. I'll take Rep. John Lewis over "Killer" anything, anyday, thank you very much

And the idea that this guy will have more influence on the South than a true hero like Rep. Lewis is insulting, absurd, and delusional.

[Bleacher Creature]

93. ^^^This, this, and more this. X1000

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

80. I'm guessing Killer Mike has already been thrown under the bus by certain groups.

He's 'not representative' of contemporary black thought, he's not really black, or whatever the excuses de jour are.

[1StrongBlackMan]

92. Well ...

He's certainly an outlier among the Black electorate.

[Helen Borg]

85. As I always say: Hillary is toast"!

[Funtatlaguy]

86. I had no idea who Killer Mike was

Very fiery
Very well spoken
As an old boring while guy, I don't know how popular this guy is.
Is he huge in the rap industry?

[George II]

89. Oh gosh, this is spinning out of control. A two-bit musician endorses Sanders...

...and the election is won?

I thought Sanders had this all wrapped up moments after Ben & Jerry's endorsed him.

[Bubzer]

96. Two-bit musician? Winning friends and influencing people doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

[Cali_Democrat]

100. HA Goodman forgot the sarcasm tag.

No way this is for real.

[Romulox]

105. DU's older, predominantly white posters have all become rap critics! nt

[wildeyed]

172. Show of hands, everyone who knew who Killer Mike was before last week.

[Enthusiast]

111. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

Yay, Mike! Yay, Bernie!

[SunSeeker]

112. The OP title needs one of its words put in all caps. Then it would be perfect.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

114. About Killer Mike

Hi people, I'm white and I'm old and the first President I voted for was Jimmy Carter.

I have never listened to rap because I don't want to hear about bitches and hoes.

Would somebody please explain to me how famous this "Killer Mike" person is and how influential?

[artislife]

168. Try YouTube and get hip, hip hop!

Why are people only just so mentally curious enough to say "who?" and not mentally curious to go out and find out for themselves?


How you do one thing, is how you do everything.

[rtracey]

119. yup

Yeah, ummmm lets see what the primaries say......

[Bubzer]

145. Primaries are certainly the ultimate decider. But it's funny to see the enevitable argument reversed

His endorsement certainly wont hurt Bernie... and will very likely help. To what degree? Only time will tell.

[Tarc]

121. So a single non-objective journalist trumpets a single musician

and somehow this is an earth-shattering event that will hand Sanders the nomination with a cherry on top?

Goodman is an avowed Sanders supporter, not an objective journalist. So really this is little more than a puff piece rather than legitimate journalism.

[Bubzer]

131. More than one journalist. Take a look

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251846618

[Metric System]

127. Hack Attack!

[pinebox]

128. It's hilarious HRC supporters trash Goodman, it REALLY is!

Because besides wanting to shooting the messenger each and every single time someone posts anything Goodman, there's an absolute ignorance which is on displayed here.

People are unable to see the forest through the trees and no where is this more prevalent in threads posted with links to Goodman. Let's stop for a moment and *suppose* he's a Libertarian. Why is that a bad thing? Seriously, tell me why that is so awful. So his political views don't always jive with yours, and? "But Goodman is the big bad boogie man!" Ummm no and here comes the whole "forest through the trees" analogy clearly illustrated.

Isn't a tad ironic that some Goodman is a Libertarian and the ones shouting that are the same ones shouting who say Bernie has no cross over appeal at all? Just sayin'. See, people can't see that and I think Goodman illustrates that quite well, considering HRC supporters say he's a Libertarian and all that jazz. Bernie's reac goes BEYOND the Dem bubble.

That's how you win the White House people!

[leftofcool]

129. KM is yours, seriously. We are more than happy he has endorsed Bernie!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251849296

[PatrickforO]

156. I guess my question to you is this:

Do you really expect that an AA man who has experienced institutional racism all his life is gonna be particularly polite or politically correct in relation to Democratic presidential primaries? Do you expect him to quietly acquiesce to the 'inevitable' front runner? Why should he? He looks at the world through his own eyes, and sees something besides what the dominant culture tells him he should see.

That said, you culled some quotes from his songs that seem absolutely designed to get white liberals in their late fifties, like me, all flustered and freaked out. But this kind of poetry is born in places where hope looks like 'not getting beaten to death by cops today,' 'not getting shot today,' and/or 'having enough food to eat today.' Many African Americans live with hunger, grinding poverty, lousy schools, really high crime, dangerous cops and systematic, all pervasive institutional racism.

I don't understand what KM has gone through because I'm white. I haven't seen what he has seen and I haven't had the experiences he's had. But after looking out at this country through my own eyes for fifty some years, I don't expect him to be grateful to the white establishment. At all. Or polite. I don't expect him to be polite. And I don't expect him to like me, and I certainly don't expect him to like politicians. What have we (dominant society) ever given him to be grateful for?

Because a lot of white people, myself included, aren't big fans of rap because of its shock value for us, it is very much a mistake to look at someone like Killer Mike and think he is dumb, or crass, or rude, or ignorant, or uneducated, or whatever other adjective your righteous indignation wants to apply. To prove that point, here are a couple of non-rap quotes from the guy, and you can decide what you think. I don't believe he cares much what other people think and when you read these quotes they might well make you feel VERY uncomfortable.

"I'm appalled that regular Americans are apathetic. I'm appalled that people choose to use the word 'thug' as a code word for 'n-----.' I'm appalled at everyday citizens... When will we, as an American constituency, tell our politicians enough's enough? Enough mayors supporting murderous police departments. Enough police chiefs having to give excuses for murderous police officers."

"...there is no reason that Mike Brown and also Eric Garner are dead today -- except bad policing, excessive force and the hunt-and-capture-prey mentality many thrill-seeking cops have adapted."

"For the people of Baltimore — I don’t criticize rioting because I understand it. But after the fires die down: organize, strategize and mobilize. Like Ferguson, you have an opportunity to start anew. I don’t have a solution because whoever’s there will have to come up with it. But we need community relations: riots are the language of the unheard."

"Baltimore is an opportunity for us to do something different. As society, there’s a real opportunity to organize there, and if we do not take full advantage of the opportunity to organize, then the riots truly meant nothing."

See, riots are one thing - I can remember my dad decades ago talking about barricading our street against rumored black riots back in the 60s and early 70s. But talk like that in the quotes above? THAT talk scares the living shit out of power.

So, basically, the endorsement from KM is a pretty big deal because here's a guy who has NO reason to trust or like any politician, and who is endorsing Bernie because he hears what he says, and he sees that he walks the walk.

[Bubzer]

137. +1

[Hiraeth]

140. The only thing worse than a Libertarian is an Authoritarian.

[Bubzer]

151. Totally!

[TM99]

130. Amen!

Kick & Rec.

[Hiraeth]

132. okay, HA Goodman. I don't know if he helpled but, he damn sure didn't HURT !!

[Bubzer]

139. There's also this one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251846618



*edited to add the correct link!*

[Hiraeth]

143. hidden

[Bubzer]

149. Hmmm... accidentally grabbed somone elses link. Try this one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251846618

[Hiraeth]

157. Saw that one already and gave it a rec.

[pinebox]

147. Goodman is correct, Bernie is the front runner

/whistling "Zippty doo da"

[Historic NY]

180. Just curious how bad is BS behind Hillary in this poll?

Oh wait never mind

The NBC/WSJ/Marist polls of Iowa and New Hampshire were conducted Sept. 23-30. In Iowa, 1,061 registered voters were interviewed (margin of error +/- 3.0 percentage points), and in New Hampshire, 1,044 registered voters were tested (+/- 3.0 percentage points).

[sabrina 1]

155. Good article.

[artislife]

158. It is now in my FB top trending items box...

Along with news on Trump, and BLM.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

175. Huge!

[BadGimp]

178. How well known is Killer Mike?

[Walk away]

181. It's worth it to keep coming here just to read OPs like this!

[Cali_Democrat]

182. It's getting closer to the Iowa caucuses