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African Americans FOR Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Segami Nov 2015 OP
Great vid silenttigersong Nov 2015 #1
Good for Senator Sanders for reaching out ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #2
He has been reaching out for over 50 years. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #12
Read the article ....yes...read the article! AlbertCat Nov 2015 #17
But curiously neither he nor any of his followers have been able to present a comprehensive... George II Nov 2015 #19
Yes, it is truly a fucking shame that Bernie Live and Learn Nov 2015 #21
You just mention what he didn't do, how about some of those accomplishments... George II Nov 2015 #26
I'd say quite a bit has been accomplished on the Civil Rghts front in the last 50 years. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #32
You can lead a horse to water a thousand times AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #42
And sometimes they don't follow you because they're drinking kool-aid and alert stalking. cui bono Nov 2015 #60
That poster is shameless. Otherwise, he'd be too embarrassed to show his face. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #67
All the Cavers are as evidenced by them showing their faces after the screenshots seen posted here. cui bono Nov 2015 #71
Awesome! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #114
Yawn George II Nov 2015 #145
But you're still at a loss to mention any of those things he's accomplished. Quite telling. George II Nov 2015 #144
i'm surprised you would request an accounting of hopemountain Nov 2015 #79
She probably became a "Democrat" Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #120
Here is a little bit history of that time from the KABF website LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #127
^^^^^ If there is a reason to not vote for Hillary then this is it. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #128
Clinton's record has nothing to do with this discussion, which is about Sanders' "record".... George II Nov 2015 #132
Has nothing to do with this discussion, thank you. George II Nov 2015 #131
Pardon me, but I started the friggen thread so don't tell me what belongs in it. Thank you. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #133
You did? Do you have two accounts on this site? George II Nov 2015 #134
The thread you are responding to which is quite different than claiming to be the OP. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #136
Still off topic - this is about Sanders' civil rights record, not Clinton's. George II Nov 2015 #137
Congratulations on your appointment as DU post monitor. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #138
Sanders has a decent record on civil rights, and a very good platform for minorities. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #30
+++ a trillions of gazillions ^^^ nt hopemountain Nov 2015 #78
And he's Honest . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #123
Well, you can start with AlbertCat Nov 2015 #34
But he has a "50-year record going back to the early 1950s when he was a High School student". George II Nov 2015 #39
You are free to think what you like but it is a documented fact. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #45
A little math: George II Nov 2015 #47
Still no concrete accomplishments AlbertCat Nov 2015 #70
What's your "concrete accomplishments" in life brentspeak Nov 2015 #146
LOL. But he does have another very, very! important accomplishment here. polly7 Nov 2015 #148
Sometimes certain people.....Oh never mind Armstead Nov 2015 #115
Funny, the very same criticism has been directed at Hillary.. whathehell Nov 2015 #130
I meant into context of recent events ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #20
Many of those "bridges" Sanders built 40 years ago, bvar22 Nov 2015 #52
Ok. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #81
+ 1 We have no other candidate like him. senz Nov 2015 #54
But for whatever reason, Sanders hasn't been able to translate that into support from minorities mythology Nov 2015 #89
K and R bigwillq Nov 2015 #3
K&R - Let's do this!! nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #4
In my heart of hearts, enough is enough is enough. Stand together because divided we will fall. Hiraeth Nov 2015 #5
either we have solidarity, or we fight among ourselves: simple as that MisterP Nov 2015 #15
exactly what the corporations and big money hopemountain Nov 2015 #149
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #6
K&R n/t NikolaC Nov 2015 #7
Such a good video ornotna Nov 2015 #8
Yes. Rebkeh Nov 2015 #9
Wonderful video - absolutely inspiring! Divernan Nov 2015 #10
Together we stand... Great video. Thank you. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #11
But of course.... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #13
Enough is enough is enough! Paka Nov 2015 #14
K&R nt Zorra Nov 2015 #16
Love the R.Kelly I BELIEVE background music... 1monster Nov 2015 #18
Sanders is trying too hard, and it is getting weird. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #22
LOL at the meme change. First he is not trying hard enough. Now he is trying too hard. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #23
You have got to be kidding Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #24
Is he really doing that? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #25
They DU Sanders crowd is trying to rationalize it: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #37
Oh my God. PLEASE tell me that is some random, clueless DUer's attempt at Photoshop Number23 Nov 2015 #44
It is from his website. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #49
Dear God... Number23 Nov 2015 #50
Buzz Click is feeding you a line of bull. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #56
Probably just trying to fit in with everyone else doing the same. Number23 Nov 2015 #57
No it is not. And I dare you to find it there. It appears that is was created by Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #55
Wrong again. This is from his website: Live and Learn Nov 2015 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author neverforget Nov 2015 #77
Link? cui bono Nov 2015 #83
They lie Doctor_J Nov 2015 #91
Stop lying jfern Nov 2015 #97
Surprise! You got alerted on. Not. A. Surprise. Cha Nov 2015 #118
And notice how they were so determined to get that hide that they not only lied about what I said Number23 Nov 2015 #142
OH MY GOD!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #94
Hmmm, I would expect better from you. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #100
NOBODY should have created THAT bravenak Nov 2015 #101
I disagree but the fact is Bernie did not. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #102
I did not think Bernie did. bravenak Nov 2015 #105
Sanders does not have the stature of Skidmore Nov 2015 #126
There is no plastering MLK on campaign posters. SoapBox Nov 2015 #29
She constantly campaigning ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #33
Call it what you like: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #36
That's not one of his campaign posters. riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #61
I like it and it is appropriate Fairgo Nov 2015 #66
That. Is fucked up. ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #82
Gosh it's so horrible to want to appeal to the values of MLK and FDR Armstead Nov 2015 #116
And Henry Kissinger. kath Nov 2015 #119
Please post your proof that Bernie has ever done so. Thanks in advance. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #31
.. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #35
Bernie did that himself? Wow, he is good. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #38
Actually it sucks. Really sucks. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #41
I like it. To each his own, I guess. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #43
LOL!!! Love how this morphed: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #48
All true statements. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #65
Who the fuck cares about this non-issue of a poster? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #68
+1000 BeanMusical Nov 2015 #113
What makes you think he even knows it exists? It was not created by his campaign. It is not on his Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #58
From a design standpoint.... smiley Nov 2015 #63
"Not Good Enough" was oh so long ago arcane1 Nov 2015 #28
They are flip-flopping on all their anti-Bernie positions! cui bono Nov 2015 #72
You mean the "not good enough Bernie" crowd was playing a cynical race game? pa28 Nov 2015 #73
They really are too much. They deflect, they twist, they turn, they dodge, they weave, they kath Nov 2015 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #80
Me thinks though doth project too much. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #124
K & R! SoapBox Nov 2015 #27
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #40
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #46
K&R -- Excellent video, brought tears. senz Nov 2015 #51
When Bernie unexpectedly met Sandra Bland's mother and sister ... senz Nov 2015 #53
I remember when a candidate was considered libdem4life Nov 2015 #59
BUMP quantass Nov 2015 #62
Wow Duckfan Nov 2015 #64
These tired meme again? Tarc Nov 2015 #69
Needs more Cornel West...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #75
Watch the racist tone. We don't permit that kind of garbage here. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #135
... SidDithers Nov 2015 #140
I call people for the PDA on a regular basis and Bernie has many African American supporters, why orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #76
Hillary and Obama= sheshe2 Nov 2015 #84
Actually, you don't get it... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #85
Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #86
Oooh.. MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #90
Trust me, I want it to stay visable sheshe2 Nov 2015 #92
You sure do.... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #93
But probably Not Good Enough. cui bono Nov 2015 #96
Esoteric orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #122
Did someone say "kick"?..... Segami Nov 2015 #98
Yes I saw someone say this should be kicked so here's Autumn Nov 2015 #107
LOL bravenak Nov 2015 #88
Not Good Enough, sheshe... cui bono Nov 2015 #95
This is helping Bernie with the black vote. bravenak Nov 2015 #99
I guess. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #103
Ha! bravenak Nov 2015 #106
I stole~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #108
You like that, eh? bravenak Nov 2015 #109
Yes I do. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #110
The blood took me aback. bravenak Nov 2015 #111
You got 1% of what I said, and Yes as far as the oligarchy, their the same, Sorry . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #121
I find the same tableing for Bernie. Many are just now learning about him and they like Live and Learn Nov 2015 #104
Nice job! k&r polichick Nov 2015 #87
This video brought tears to my eyes. BigBearJohn Nov 2015 #117
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #125
Most African-Americans have been unaware of Bernie Sanders. DrBulldog Nov 2015 #129
Agree. Data indicates that as people come to know him they come to love him. PROOF: Crystalite Nov 2015 #139
That's some LWolf Nov 2015 #141
Not possible. 99Forever Nov 2015 #143
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #147
great video! hopemountain Nov 2015 #150

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
12. He has been reaching out for over 50 years.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 02:22 PM
Nov 2015

20 Examples of Bernie Sanders' Powerful Record on Civil and Human Rights Since the 1950s
From fighting segregation to standing against police violence.


Over the past few months, one lingering attack on Bernie Sanders' candidacy for the Democratic nomination is his supposed indifference to racial justice and civil rights issues.

But the truth is, Sanders has a 50-year history of standing up for civil and minority rights, as he told the attendants of Netroots Nation after he was interrupted by Black Lives Matter protesters. Of course, it's understandable that they want to bring attention to the movement. Killings of people from Ferguson to New York City to Los Angeles to Atlanta have finally brought important issues like police brutality, systemic racism, mass incarceration and militarization of the police into the center of national dialogue.

It is up to all candidates for the presidency, including every Democrat, every Republican and independent candidates, to address these issues in a forthright manner and to do outreach and communicate with communities that are besieged by these problems. Although his events in Phoenix, Houston and Dallas, where he loudly condemned police brutality and racism were a start, Sanders owes it to pay attention to these activists and listen to the concerns of marginalized groups whose civil rights have historically been suppressed. Sanders does have a record of fighting on these issues, and it should be only natural for him to be able to comfortably address them before a diverse audience.

snip>

But much of the criticism of Sanders seems more rooted in who he is — an old white guy from Vermont — than what he has done. If anything, the fact that he has done so much for civil and minority rights despite the fact that his constituency is not one that would naturally demand it speaks to his character and wide empathy that isn't shared by many politicians.


Read the article to see the 20 ways Sanders has stood up for civil and minority rights, starting in the early 1950s up to the present year if you are really interested in the truth.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/20-examples-bernie-sanders-powerful-record-civil-and-human-rights-1950s
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
17. Read the article ....yes...read the article!
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 02:43 PM
Nov 2015

The last paragraph.... which brings it all together:

"But much of the criticism of Sanders seems more rooted in who he is — an old white guy from Vermont — than what he has done. If anything, the fact that he has done so much for civil and minority rights despite the fact that his constituency is not one that would naturally demand it speaks to his character and wide empathy that isn't shared by many politicians"

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. But curiously neither he nor any of his followers have been able to present a comprehensive...
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:12 PM
Nov 2015

....summary of what he's ACCOMPLISHED over those 50 years.

Yeah, I know that he said this, that, or the other, but he's running on his LEGISLATIVE record of civil rights accomplishments. That in itself should cause one to raise an eyebrow - that legislative record of accomplishments is mighty slim.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
21. Yes, it is truly a fucking shame that Bernie
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:19 PM
Nov 2015

hasn't been able to annihilate racism all on his own. Shame on him for simply trying and not accomplishing it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. You just mention what he didn't do, how about some of those accomplishments...
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

....during that "50-year history of standing up for civil and minority rights" starting in the early 1950s?

Anything?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
32. I'd say quite a bit has been accomplished on the Civil Rghts front in the last 50 years.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:46 PM
Nov 2015

And everyone, including Bernie, that stood up and demanded changes shares in those accomplishments.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
42. You can lead a horse to water a thousand times
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

If they die of thirst, it's their own damn fault.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
60. And sometimes they don't follow you because they're drinking kool-aid and alert stalking.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:04 PM
Nov 2015
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
67. That poster is shameless. Otherwise, he'd be too embarrassed to show his face.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:56 PM
Nov 2015

After his alert-stalking stunt on that other web site.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
71. All the Cavers are as evidenced by them showing their faces after the screenshots seen posted here.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:40 PM
Nov 2015

George II

(67,782 posts)
144. But you're still at a loss to mention any of those things he's accomplished. Quite telling.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
79. i'm surprised you would request an accounting of
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:02 PM
Nov 2015

bernie's 50 yr history of marching, supporting and voting for civil rights and justice issues. where is your accounting of hillary's accomplishments?

now, when i look back at hillary's 50 year record, i find it begins with deep roots as a goldwater republican. when did she become a democrat? what issues brought about and impassioned her decision to become a democrat? when did she begin marching for civil rights? has she ever been arrested for such? as a senator, what was her voting record for social justice and civil rights issues?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
120. She probably became a "Democrat"
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:49 AM
Nov 2015

when she hitched up with a rising star in the Democratic Party of Arkansas.

But before Bill won the election for state attorney general in 1976, Hillary was defending Arkansas utility companies against residential rate-payers.

"Clashing interests of the well-to-do & the rest of Arkansas were in evidence in 1976 in the form of an initiative. The initiative had been launched by advocates for the poor, a group called the Association of Community Organizations for Reform (ACORN).

"With utility rates in Arkansas skyrocketing, ACORN pushed through a ballot initiative requiring utilities to lower rates for residential users in Little Rock and to increase them for business. The measure passed.

"Business fought back. The engine driving the challenge was the Rose Law Firm, which enlisted Hillary to help. Hillary could hardly decline to fight her friends, especially so early in her career. This was the by-product of Hillary's choice to join Rose. She would advocate for clients who would be on the opposite sides of the causes she had formerly championed.

"The winning brief was crafted by Hillary and a colleague. The judge embraced the theory--that the ordinance amounted to an unconstitutional taking of property."

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Corporations.htm

LiberalArkie

(19,756 posts)
127. Here is a little bit history of that time from the KABF website
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:00 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.kabf.org/?page_id=170

The real roots of KABF lie in a nonpartisan political effort to establish “lifeline” utility rates in the City of Little Rock through an initiated referendum petition that came to a vote in 1976. Arkansas ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), a membership organization of low and modern income families founded in Little Rock on June 18, 1970 had been leading the fights at the Public Service Commission to halt inflationary increases in utility costs for gas, telephone, and electricity that were hammering their members. ACORN had made some progress but much of their success had been in whittling down huge proposed increases, which even in “victory,” still meant higher bills for their members. Finally, they struck upon a strategy of advocating a “lifeline” rate that would freeze the costs for the first 400 kilowatts of electricity at a fixed level so that lower income families would always be able to afford basic utilities in their homes. By getting a valid number of signatures for an initiated petition ACORN could put the issue on the ballot and if the voters agreed, enact lifeline rates.

Similar petitions were filed by ACORN members in Fayetteville, Fort Smith, Hot Springs, and Pine Bluff, but due to legal challenges and adverse court decisions blocking the vote, only the Little Rock measure was approved for the ballot. ACORN waged an extensive campaign for approval that involved going door-to-door throughout eastern, central and southwestern Little Rock. In the last few weeks of the campaign, the utility company, particularly Arkansas Power & Light (AP&L), now Entergy, dumped tens of thousands of dollars in advertisements on television and radio in an effort to have voters reject the initiative. Despite everything, ACORN won the election with voters approving lifeline rates by a significant majority. Later court challenges by AP&L and a rural electric cooperative claimed that the cooperative had some dozen or so customers within Little Rock city limits and no large customers, whose rates would increase to compensate for the equalizing of rates which established lifeline rates, thereby making it confiscatory. The case for the utilities was famously handled by Webb Hubbell, who later became Mayor of Little Rock, and Hilary Rodham, who later as Hilary Rodham Clinton, became a United States Senator from New York, Secretary of State, and a candidate for President in addition to being First Lady while Bill Clinton was President of the United States.

ACORN in analyzing its experience with the lifeline elections in Arkansas came to the conclusion that it would never have the money to allow its members to have the kind of media voice that money had bought the utilities with a membership of lower income families. On the other hand in extensive conversations with Lorenzo Milam became convinced that there might be accessible opportunities to create a “voice of the people” in noncommercial, community radio. Milam, often called the “father of community radio” at that time was establishing a 100,000 watt station in Dallas called KCHU that was working with the Dallas chapter of ACORN. Discussions between Milam and the founder and chief organizer of ACORN, Wade Rathke, led in subsequent years to ACORN helping found the Affiliated Media Foundation Movement (AM/FM) which resuscitated a construction permit in Tampa to put WMNF on the air, reorganizing KCHU after it went dark with money and internal problems through the Agape Foundation and what is now, KNON in Dallas, and establishing the Arkansas Broadcasting Foundation (ABF) which applied for a frequency of 100,000 watts, based in Little Rock.

George II

(67,782 posts)
132. Clinton's record has nothing to do with this discussion, which is about Sanders' "record"....
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

....and "50 yr history of marching........"

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
133. Pardon me, but I started the friggen thread so don't tell me what belongs in it. Thank you. nt
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:09 PM
Nov 2015

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
136. The thread you are responding to which is quite different than claiming to be the OP.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:21 PM
Nov 2015

Jheesh!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
138. Congratulations on your appointment as DU post monitor.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:37 PM
Nov 2015

It would be nice if Skinner would share such appointments with us so we could all celebrate.



I never mentioned Clinton and have no idea what you are talking about!

PatrickforO

(15,420 posts)
30. Sanders has a decent record on civil rights, and a very good platform for minorities.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

Honestly, I think you're splitting some hairs here, because what you seem to be saying is that Bernie isn't pure enough on civil rights, therefore I'm going to post a thread that in effect denigrates his platform now by casting aspersion on his legislative record. Also it bothers me that people downplay the courage it took to march with King and the old civil rights movement. Because those arrests could have gone south awful quick, and Bernie could have been like some others and gotten killed. That was some serious shit.

And for you and other Clinton surrogates to say, 'well what's he done lately?' and denigrate those things he did in his youth without ALSO laying out line by line, exhaustively detailed record of everything Clinton has done for civil rights is pretty self-serving to say the least. That Civil Rights march in 1963 served to apply the pressure needed to pass the Civil Rights Act. So Bernie was 22 when he marched and probably didn't get very near King. So what? He and 200,000 other people SHOWED up.

The other self-serving thing about this, George, is this: no one person is gonna be able to move the needle on institutional racism. With Clinton you'll get more of the same, because her actions in the Senate, during the 08 campaign against Obama and now in 2015 have proven, to me at least, that she cares much more about getting elected than actually upholding the interests of the common American man or woman once she is elected. Bernie is TELLING us he can't do it alone and calling for us to become involved at a much greater level - a political revolution he's calling it.

This, George, is a defective meme. It really is. The Sanders platform will benefit minorities to a greater degree than whites, though we'll all benefit. Sanders isn't Superman - we all know that. But he's the ONLY one right now speaking truth to power.

Clinton represents power.

Which do you want?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
34. Well, you can start with
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:53 PM
Nov 2015

winning 14 elections.

That's 12 more than Clinton.

He's not an insider. The status quo doesn't always like his ideas. But, just like Clinton's record, most are "referred to committee".

Perusing back a couple of years I see Clinton got lots of NY PO's named, but poor Bernie only one in VT (less population?).

Bernie has resolutions agreed upon on things like getting clothes, toys food and housewares collected for charitable purposes on Senate grounds, and Hillary also has resolutions agreed upon, like honoring Shirley Chisholm.

Bernies has laws enacted... like:

S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Sep 9, 2014
Referred to Committee: Sep 9, 2014
Enacted As: H.R. 5441 (113th): To amend the Federal charter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States to reflect the service of women in the Armed Forces of the United States.

and

S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 8, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013



Hillary too has bills and resolutions enacted:

S.Con.Res. 113 (109th): A concurrent resolution congratulating the Magen David Adom Society in Israel for achieving full membership in the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen. Hillary Clinton [D-NY, 2001-2009]
Introduced: Jul 21, 2006
Passed Senate: Aug 1, 2006

and

S. 272 (109th): Caribbean National Forest Act of 2005
Sponsor: Sen. Hillary Clinton [D-NY, 2001-2009]
Introduced: Feb 3, 2005
Passed Senate: Jul 26, 2005
Enacted As: H.R. 539 (109th): Caribbean National Forest Act of 2005
S. 211 (109th): Calling for 2-1-1 Act of 2005



Anyway.... both their records are online and you can check them out yourself.





George II

(67,782 posts)
39. But he has a "50-year record going back to the early 1950s when he was a High School student".
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:59 PM
Nov 2015

Methinks the author of that article exaggerates a wee bit.

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. A little math:
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:14 PM
Nov 2015

This is 2015, the early 1950s was about 65 years ago. Seems there are 15 years missing there. Plus, he graduated from High School in 1959 - the author said he was a high school student in the EARLY 1950s.

Seems that author is playing fast and loose with reality.

That's as far as I got in that article - too much bluster to go any further.

Still no concrete accomplishments - as J. Peterman would say in Seinfeld, "looks like a lot of words".

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
70. Still no concrete accomplishments
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:23 PM
Nov 2015

Nonsense.

What do you want? A vote for war in a country who was no threat?

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
146. What's your "concrete accomplishments" in life
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:40 AM
Nov 2015

other than posting anti-Bernie drivel on these boards?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
148. LOL. But he does have another very, very! important accomplishment here.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:04 AM
Nov 2015

Self-admitted, and very proud of it - celebrates it with others, even. [URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]



Free Cali.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
20. I meant into context of recent events
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:14 PM
Nov 2015

He recognized he had bridges to build, and he's building them. Good for him, it's the right thing to do

On edit--I am very aware of Sanders record and platform.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
52. Many of those "bridges" Sanders built 40 years ago,
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:37 PM
Nov 2015

...and are still standing. Most people who have been paying attention already know this fact.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
89. But for whatever reason, Sanders hasn't been able to translate that into support from minorities
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:00 PM
Nov 2015

in early polling.

I think that Sanders has a strong record on civil rights, but that apparently isn't enough to overcome the lead Clinton has among black and Hispanic voters.

In running for president, it's not enough to have a good record, you have to translate that into votes.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
5. In my heart of hearts, enough is enough is enough. Stand together because divided we will fall.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 01:09 PM
Nov 2015

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
149. exactly what the corporations and big money
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:41 PM
Nov 2015

people driving this election want us to do - they love to throw bones to the masses.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
13. But of course....
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 02:27 PM
Nov 2015

.... anyone of any color who is sick of a rigged game.

Kick and rec...

1monster

(11,045 posts)
18. Love the R.Kelly I BELIEVE background music...
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 02:58 PM
Nov 2015

It's the first time I've heard it. I'm guessing it was written for Obama.

Even thought they are not alike at all (Bernie seems full of joy, and Bobby carried so much grief), when I listen to Bernie Sanders, I'm reminded of Bobby Kennedy. They both ooze(d) empathy and compassion. And they both emmbody(ied) hope and excitement.

Someone posted recently, that only once in every generation does a great candidate come along. I don't think it is that often. Maybe once in every three or four generations. Bernie is that candidate for our era. Bobby was for an earlier era, and before him FDR.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
22. Sanders is trying too hard, and it is getting weird.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:25 PM
Nov 2015

Following the Mitt Rmney game plan is a losing strategy.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
23. LOL at the meme change. First he is not trying hard enough. Now he is trying too hard.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:28 PM
Nov 2015

You guys are too much.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
44. Oh my God. PLEASE tell me that is some random, clueless DUer's attempt at Photoshop
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:09 PM
Nov 2015

and not a real campaign poster.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
55. No it is not. And I dare you to find it there. It appears that is was created by
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:43 PM
Nov 2015

"People for Bernie". And organization not affiliated with the campaign.

Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #49)

Cha

(318,835 posts)
118. Surprise! You got alerted on. Not. A. Surprise.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:06 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:46 AM - Edit history (1)

Oh my God. PLEASE tell me that is some random, clueless DUer's attempt at Photoshop
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=854160

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Clueless DUers? How much mocking of this candidate and his supporters are we expected to put up with? This nastiness is making DU very unpleasant.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:00 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh get a Grip, alerter. Wow! "clueless.."?!!!!! Hillary and her supporters are dissed constantly 24/7.. there's an OP trending now that states.. "Hillary supporters are like trump's tax plan..". Talk about "nastiness that makes DU look bad."

I suggest you quit being such hypocrites.. but, of course you won't.

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The internet has ruined DU
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

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Number23

(24,544 posts)
142. And notice how they were so determined to get that hide that they not only lied about what I said
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:54 PM
Nov 2015

but then somehow made tried to make it about "mocking" Sanders himself and his supporters instead of just one clueless person.

I said "random, clueless DUer's" and it's obvious with the placement of the apostrophe that I was talking about only one person, potentially. They made sure to take it out so that it looked like I was talking about lots of people. Just another attempt to lie and deliberately mischaracterize, a trait that seems very strong in certain quarters right now.

Yeah, "something is making DU very unpleasant," alerter. Something really is.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
105. I did not think Bernie did.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:18 AM
Nov 2015

That is more my line of work than his. But it does not help.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
29. There is no plastering MLK on campaign posters.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

There was some creative designs...that's it.

Stop frothing.

BTW...where the heck is she at? Seems like she's in hiding or fundraising all the time...when was her last 20,000 person rally?

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
33. She constantly campaigning
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:52 PM
Nov 2015

She's not doing rallys, she's meeting with many smaller organizations and representatives of interests, like the Latino community. Different unions. This probably accounts for her continuously improving poll numbers.

Sanders campaigns big, but I think he is gaining ground at this point, courting people instead of assuming they should follow him. I believe he was surprised at his popularity in the first place

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
66. I like it and it is appropriate
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:53 PM
Nov 2015

I want to know who the flock see as their role models for policy. Perhaps the Kissinger embrace would be the meme they would float over the head of HRC's massive crowds.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
116. Gosh it's so horrible to want to appeal to the values of MLK and FDR
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:55 AM
Nov 2015

How fucking AWFUL.

Maybe he should be a REAL modern day "centrist" Democrat and put up Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher instead

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
31. Please post your proof that Bernie has ever done so. Thanks in advance.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 03:43 PM
Nov 2015

Not holding my breath though.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
41. Actually it sucks. Really sucks.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:00 PM
Nov 2015

And we will wait for Sanders to distance himself from the abomination. Forever.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
48. LOL!!! Love how this morphed:
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:15 PM
Nov 2015

"It does not exist!"

"Bernie did not make that!"

"Actually, I like it!!!111"

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
68. Who the fuck cares about this non-issue of a poster?
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:01 PM
Nov 2015

Somebody not affiliated with the campaign made it.

Big fucking deal.

If you want to attack Sanders, try his policy positions. I'm sure someone like you will find plenty not to like. He is a progressive, after all.

Trying to go after Sanders for a poster he had nothing to do with is just sad and pathetic.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
58. What makes you think he even knows it exists? It was not created by his campaign. It is not on his
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:54 PM
Nov 2015

website. It appears to have been created by "People For Bernie". And entirely unaffiliated organization.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
72. They are flip-flopping on all their anti-Bernie positions!
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:45 PM
Nov 2015

No wonder they don't mind Hillary's flip-flopping.

Another recent one is going from he'll never be able to work with the GOP to he's asking the GOP to support him and vote for him.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
73. You mean the "not good enough Bernie" crowd was playing a cynical race game?
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:22 PM
Nov 2015

Oh, god I'm SHOCKED.

kath

(10,565 posts)
112. They really are too much. They deflect, they twist, they turn, they dodge, they weave, they
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:59 AM
Nov 2015

Spin.
And when they are not doing any of that, they lie.
Or as is happening below on this thread, they just start making shit up.
Shameless.

Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #22)

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
124. Me thinks though doth project too much.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:47 AM
Nov 2015

Darn Bernie. Following that Romney Wall St foot rubs strategy. Oh wait.

Response to Segami (Original post)

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
59. I remember when a candidate was considered
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

Unelectable because he was Catholic and too young,

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
64. Wow
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:18 PM
Nov 2015


If we keep people energized, we're in the drivers seat. BTW, I'm still watching the "Killer Mike" video. It's too good to put aside.
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
76. I call people for the PDA on a regular basis and Bernie has many African American supporters, why
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:45 PM
Nov 2015

Because Many African Americans feel used by Hillary and president Obama who seem to of facilitated the 1% as much as ShrubCo .

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
85. Actually, you don't get it...
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 10:47 PM
Nov 2015

You haven't gotten it for as long as you're been discussing the subject matter on this Board.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
96. But probably Not Good Enough.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:12 AM
Nov 2015

Probably about time to kick that one again to remind people the lengths you go to to smear a good man.

Autumn

(48,951 posts)
107. Yes I saw someone say this should be kicked so here's
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:20 AM
Nov 2015

a kick. I have my reasons too.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
121. You got 1% of what I said, and Yes as far as the oligarchy, their the same, Sorry .
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:39 AM
Nov 2015

" As much " doesn't equal " Worse " unless you consider as Democrats they're supposed to champions of Democracy and not agents for corporations, Your right they are worse .

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
104. I find the same tableing for Bernie. Many are just now learning about him and they like
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:18 AM
Nov 2015

they are learning. And no, most don't trust Hillary.

Response to Segami (Original post)

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
129. Most African-Americans have been unaware of Bernie Sanders.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:19 PM
Nov 2015

So Killer Mike's endorsement speech - a mere five minutes long - may end up being the lightning bolt for them to realize they have a true and honest champion and have always had him as a unassuming champion for many decades. And all they have to now do is visit berniesanders.com and read his long history of fighting for the minorities in this country - and then think about it.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
143. Not possible.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:58 PM
Nov 2015

I was told right here on this forum, by the self-appointed Voice of Black America, that Senator Sanders has absolutely no support from POC. Was I being lied to?

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