Bernie Sanders CALLS Planned Parenthood Shooting A Consequence Of Republican Rhetoric

[Segami]

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders connected the dots and called out the unintended consequences of Republican rhetoric while responding to the Colorado Planned Parenthood shooting.

In a statement, Sen. Sanders said,

“..While we still do not know the shooter’s motive, what is clear is that Planned Parenthood has been the subject of vicious and unsubstantiated statements attacking an organization that provides critical health care for millions of Americans. I strongly support Planned Parenthood and the work it is doing and hope people realize that bitter rhetoric can have unintended consequences...”

The political campaign against Planned Parenthood has involved edited videos that are not factually accurate, congressional hearings which were filled with heated and inaccurate attacks against the health care provider, and even a Republican presidential candidate (Carly Fiorina) flat out lying about Planned Parenthood on the debate stage.

Sen. Sanders was correct. The Republican tactic of using false statements and over the top rhetoric is dangerous because it creates the climate for violence. When Republican rhetoric is combined with easy access to weapons, it makes the perfect recipe for mass shootings.

While suspect has not stated his motive for the shootings, the fact that he chose to carry out his attack inside a Planned Parenthood on the busiest shopping weekend of the year is a very strong hint that points to an anti-choice motive.


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http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/28/bernie-sanders-calls-planned-parenthood-shooting-consequence-republican-rhetoric.html

[niyad]

1. exactly

[MineralMan]

2. He's exactly right about that.

[Hepburn]

3. Spot on.

The blood is on their hands. The ugly rhetoric has consequences.

[Juicy_Bellows]

4. Indeed.

We don't know the motive for sure but I think this is one of those times where an assumption is just fine.

If you see a bear rummaging through your trash can, he might be looking for the NYT crossword but he is likely just hungry.

[libdem4life]

8. Spot on.

[Marty McGraw]

17. ( ._.)

Well Put!

[senz]

23. Your sig line gif is eye-opening, excellent.

[Marty McGraw]

32. Yes

There is no one other in the broadcast media that tops The Thom Hartmann Program. He, his Wife and his Staff produce such brilliant pieces of work to pay attention to during the day.

[senz]

35. Didn't know they were the source.

I listen daily via podcast. I know they do a TV show but how would they share a gif? Unless on his website (which I'm familiar with.)

[AgingAmerican]

5. When Republican rhetoric is combined with easy access to weapons, it makes the perfect recipe

...for mass shootings.

He has the yarbles to tell the truth.

[Live and Learn]

6. K&R nt

[Segami]

7. "..Motives behind Planned Parenthood terror?..

"...If we have to ask—let's start with the GOP/Fox/Limbaugh

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Odious messages are spewed daily via ‘hate media’ like the televised Fox News, written media like Breibart, and radio shows like The Rush Limbaugh show. These outlets are now being accused of being partly responsible for Friday’s act of terrorism. Olivia Kittel with Media Matters cites some of the malign public attacks against Planned Parenthood:

Fox News contributor Erick Erickson said Republicans who won't vote to defund the health provider "should be destroyed, " and conservative blog RedState called Planned Parenthood "our Auschwitz." Fox host Bill O'Reilly described Planned Parenthood's fetal tissue donation as "Nazi stuff," while many conservative media figures drew comparisons to the notorious Nazi doctor, Josef Mengele, who conducted painful and often fatal human experiments on concentration camp prisoners.

We have GOP presidential candidate Carly Fiorina, lying to one of the largest television audiences this year. She claims there is a video of a Planned Parenthood clinic doing unthinkable, even though it did not take place at Planned Parenthood health center:

“Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says, ‘We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.” -Carly Fiorina

Public radio programs like The Rush Limbaugh Show are just as bad or worse. Limbaugh, known for being racist, misogynistic, anti-LGBT gun-hugger, uses phrases like, “Planned Parenthood butchery,” perpetuating the already festering hatred towards pro-choice organizations. Media Matters recorded a show where Rush Limbaugh actually said:

”You know how to stop abortion? Require each one occur with a gun.” -Rush Limbaugh

None of the above have suffered repercussions for their lies, other than Limbaugh who has lost thousands of advertisers due to a national protest and boycott. But whats that compared to promoting menacing disinformation that might/can lead to the deaths of innocent people?


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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/28/1454831/-A-motive-for-the-Colorado-Springs-shooting-Do-we-have-to-ask

[AgingAmerican]

9. Crickets from Hillary supporters

Funny because they keep demanding Sanders go after the GOP.

[whereisjustice]

11. Many big Wall Street donors don't like planned parenthood. You can't make them uncomfortable.

[SmittynMo]

15. Crickets from the GOP too

The only articles I read were from our president, and Bernie(the next president). I'm pretty sure the GOP thinks that what Bernie said is true. They have NO defense to this. NONE!!!!

I just wish we could actually connect the dots to Fiorina's lies.

Maybe after they interview the prick, they'll get to the truth.

[dickthegrouch]

21. Problem is, the Repubs don't care about the consequences

In their twisted, stunted, unthinking minds the consequences are just and righteous, UNTIL their own families get caught up in them.

The ONLY way to win this fight is to make perfectly obvious that they will get caught up in the rhetoric and the violence at some point. The golden rul has to apply to, and be applied by, EVERYONE. Nothing else can possibly work in the long term.

[nxylas]

29. Crickets from the GOP hierarchy perhaps

Not from the rank and file.
http://usuncut.com/news/pro-lifers-showed-us-how-not-to-respond-to-planned-parenthood-attacks/

[salib]

57. They are just waiting for the authorities to finish torturing the guy into

Claiming he is actually some liberal atheist, maybe even socialist, wanna be.

That is what torture is good for, after all.

[senz]

37. And they call themselves feminists, too.

Curious and curiouser...

[postatomic]

42. You're painting outside the lines there

“Today and every day, we #StandWithPP,” Hillary Clinton tweeted Friday afternoon. Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley also used the hashtag in their tweets supporting Planned Parenthood.

As of early Saturday, the only GOP Presidential candidate who had responded publicly to the attack on Twitter was Texas Senator Ted Cruz. “Praying for the loved ones of those killed, those injured & first responders who bravely got the situation under control in Colorado Springs,” he wrote.

President Obama also issued a statement about the shooting, advocating for stricter gun laws.

http://time.com/4128435/presidential-candidates-respond-to-planned-parenthood-shooting/

I don't care what Senator Sanders does or does not do with regards to the GOP. Hillary Clinton has been a strong advocate of Planned Parenthood. You call it "crickets" -- I call it not being aware.

There.... you just had a Hillary supporter respond.

[AgingAmerican]

43. So you are saying they are ignorant?

I doubt they avoid threads like this one out of ignorance. They avoid them because it would wreck their 'Sanders never takes on the GOP' talking points. They would have to admit the talking point is hogwash, and they have their marching orders.

[postatomic]

48. Nope.

It took me less than 10 seconds to find the link I posted. Had some others but I could see no point. My contention was that you were not aware of something that most people already were. It's no secret to most that Hillary is a major advocate of Planned Parenthood. Maybe many could see no reason to reply. I just did so out of courtesy to you.

"would have to admit the talking point is hogwash" and "they have their marching orders". Your word smithing has a bitter tinge to it. Something tells me that you are just looking for a confrontation. That's cool. Not my thing though. Believe it or not most Hillary supporters are free-thinkers and don't need repetitive talking points or someone telling them what to do.

Wait!! Marching Orders?? You mean like when the Sanders supporters marched to the JJ Dinner with the Sanders Drum Brigade beating out the cadence?

[AgingAmerican]

49. We see this in thread after thread that casts Sanders in a positive light

Crickets from Hillary supporters. One or two may chime in as you did, but the louder, more toxic ones stay away from these threads like Superman stays away from Kryptonite.

[thucythucy]

54. This is the kind of nonsense that turns people off

both to DU and, from what I can see, to Senator Sanders. I SUPPORT Senator Sanders and applaud his statement here (see my other post on this thread). But I also know Clinton has been a staunch supporter of PP for as long as I can remember.

It's like you feel compelled to turn every pro-Bernie thread into an anti-Hillary bash, even on a topic where she is clearly on the side of the angels.

Sheesh.

[whereisjustice]

10. I would say the consequences were intended. Conservatives want violence. They know

how to get it.

[Vinca]

13. Good point.

[Segami]

19. I agree....strike out "unintended"...

They don't have to persuade a high percentage of their listening audience with their 24/7 focused hate rhetoric.......success would entail just enough pliable minds to tip them over the edge and strike out.........

[senz]

38. That's what he's learned as a politician --

don't impugn the other side's motives.

If you listen to/watch rightwing media, it's ALL about the other side's motives, entirely made up.

[GitRDun]

14. He's right!

The media, obsessed with THE GET is equally responsible for providing the platform for spreading these idiotic views.

[seabeyond]

16. Then maybe he should not be a part of that by standing with Republicans for votes, telling them to

put these wedge issues to the side and focus on the real issue, the important issue of middle class woes.

[AlbertCat]

22. Gun violence is a wedge issue?

Breaking up media conglomerates is a wedge issue?

It was just PP this time.

Next time it'll be something like someone who said "Happy Holidays".

Or a Sikh some dittohead thought was an AY-rab.

Education is a wedge issue?
Teaching critical thinking is a wedge issue?


What a ridiculous unthinking post you embarrassingly put up!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

28. Claiming the Dems are coming for grampa's squirrel rifle over the mantelpiece is a wedge issue.

[beam me up scottie]

44. Like Hillary did when she said we need to find "common ground" with them on abortion?

Bernie never stood with Republicans and supported a ban on late term abortions like Hillary did when she ran for office.

He's always been 100% pro-choice because he trusts women to make their own decisions

Don't you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself?

[cui bono]

47. Stale talking point is stale.

*yawn*

[rhett o rick]

50. What doesn't make sense to me is that if you really want social justice, go with the Progressive

Wing and not the Conservative Wing. No one can argue that Clinton is more progressive than Sen Sanders. Progressives have ALWAYS supported social justice issues while the conservatives do not. Conservatives and their 1% owners don't care about social justice so why would you stand wit them?

[Laffy Kat]

18. Voting for this man. nt

[senz]

20. He knows EXACTLY what is happening. Doesn't have to focus-group it first.

And he can state it calmly and openly without pandering or exploiting the situation.

When have we ever had a leader like that?

[CharlotteVale]

27. Bingo.

[demmiblue]

24. Bernie Sanders: this election cycle's most pro-woman candidate.

[senz]

34. +1 Always

Because he cares about people, ALL people, not just those who are like him.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. Expect Republican and FOX "News" OUTRAGE in 3,...2,...1,....

[CharlotteVale]

26. So glad he went there.

[valerief]

30. The RW's practice of egging on the American public to hate is like a competent adult egging

on a low-IQ teen to fight a weaker kid. Much of the American public isn't bright enough to know when they're being fucked with.

[Duval]

31. And he is absolutely correct!

We desperately need Media Reform! The hate talk from RW has to stop. The ongoing tilt to the right from our MSM has to stop.
HOW we go about doing this is another question.

[oberliner]

33. He actually very clearly does not do that

In his statement he says "we still do not know the shooter’s motive".

He goes on to express his support for Planned Parenthood and his criticisms of the attacks being leveled against it.

But he definitely does not say that the shooting is a consequence of Republican rhetoric.

[liberalnarb]

36. I believe the blood of the attack is in the hands of fiorina most of all

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027390502

[Proserpina]

39. And that is why the similar efforts here on DU are so disturbing

In a microcosm, the same lying, outrageous rhetoric, and vicious attacks of a few are destroying everything DU stood for. The difference is, the only ultimate victim here will be Democratic Underground.

[SoapBox]

40. K & R

[TNNurse]

41. Of course it is

however, there are people who think it was justified and saved babies' lives so it is good. We have some really twisted thinking in this country and it is being promoted in churches and by politicians. I want someone to try to explain to me how murdering that campus cop who had two small children at home saved any lives.
As far as I am concerned LaPierre, Cruz, Huckabee and many others hare accessories to these murders and should be charged. Oh yeah.Carly Fiorina for her part by spreading lies.....she has blood on her hands, too.

[madokie]

45. Thank you President to be Sanders

What you said, sir, what you said

[cui bono]

46. It's so nice to have someone call it like it is. We NEED that!

Thank you Bernie! And thank you fro offering your services as president of this country. We NEED you!!!

[Kath1]

51. He is absolutely right about that.

They have the victim's blood on their hands.

[Uncle Joe]

52. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Segami.

[Progressive dog]

53. Maybe this will get Bernie to want to do

something about the easy access to guns and ammo in the USA.

[valerief]

56. Here's his policy and what he's done so far.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-gun-policy/

[Ferd Berfel]

55. Once again Bernie speaks truth and shows HE has guts. Has anyone else said this?

Hilary's handlers are probably waiting for the next poll on this before they tell her what her position is.