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Related: About this forumWhy Some SC Democrats Are Not Backing Front-Runner Clinton - TheState
Why some SC Democrats are not backing front-runner ClintonClinton has support from several influential S.C. Democrats
But some are picking long shots US Sen. Bernie Sanders, Martin OMalley
Former Obama donors in S.C. slow to give financial support to frontrunner
By JAMIE SELF - TheState
November 28, 2015
COLUMBIA, SC - Inez Tenenbaum got a call from the Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton a few weeks ago.
We had a very nice talk about issues important to her and to me, said Tenenbaum, a former Democratic S.C. superintendent of education and Obama administration official, and a supporter of a potential Vice President Joe Biden presidential bid until he decided not to run.
I pledged my support to her (Clinton) that day, Tenenbaum told The State newspaper last week, thus becoming the latest influential S.C. Democrat to back the candidate most likely to become the partys nominee.
Clinton has been building a strong campaign network in the state. Her coalitions include Democratic mayors, state legislators, women and grassroots activists.
Leading in early nominating states contests, Clinton has her greatest advantage in South Carolinas Democratic primary at 50-percentage points. That makes the Palmetto State a firewall for Clinton if she happens to lose in Iowa and New Hampshire, whose voters are the first and second to pick their preferred nominee.
Clintons campaign coffers also are swamping her opponents.
But while Clinton has clear advantages over her opponents, some S.C. Democrats are placing their bets elsewhere preferring to back the underdog U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders or former Maryland Gov. Martin OMalley.
And some Palmetto State donors who gave the most to Obamas two presidential bids have not yet given to Clinton, which could be a sign of her strength and that of allied super PACS, or a lack of enthusiasm to invest in the campaign, some S.C. Democrats said.
S.C. Rep. James Smith, a Richland Democrat who also wanted Biden to run, said no matter how the candidates are doing in the polls, state Democratic voters will back the candidates they like best.
Weve never been a party that just gets in line, he said.
We had a very nice talk about issues important to her and to me, said Tenenbaum, a former Democratic S.C. superintendent of education and Obama administration official, and a supporter of a potential Vice President Joe Biden presidential bid until he decided not to run.
I pledged my support to her (Clinton) that day, Tenenbaum told The State newspaper last week, thus becoming the latest influential S.C. Democrat to back the candidate most likely to become the partys nominee.
Clinton has been building a strong campaign network in the state. Her coalitions include Democratic mayors, state legislators, women and grassroots activists.
Leading in early nominating states contests, Clinton has her greatest advantage in South Carolinas Democratic primary at 50-percentage points. That makes the Palmetto State a firewall for Clinton if she happens to lose in Iowa and New Hampshire, whose voters are the first and second to pick their preferred nominee.
Clintons campaign coffers also are swamping her opponents.
But while Clinton has clear advantages over her opponents, some S.C. Democrats are placing their bets elsewhere preferring to back the underdog U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders or former Maryland Gov. Martin OMalley.
And some Palmetto State donors who gave the most to Obamas two presidential bids have not yet given to Clinton, which could be a sign of her strength and that of allied super PACS, or a lack of enthusiasm to invest in the campaign, some S.C. Democrats said.
S.C. Rep. James Smith, a Richland Democrat who also wanted Biden to run, said no matter how the candidates are doing in the polls, state Democratic voters will back the candidates they like best.
Weve never been a party that just gets in line, he said.
And...
Some Palmetto State Democrats say they are backing OMalley or Sanders because they want an alternative to Clinton whose years spent in Washington as a first lady, a U.S. senator and then as the secretary of state make her part of the Beltway establishment, some said.
State Rep. Terry Alexander, D-Florence, supported Clinton in 08, but now is backing Sanders, though not because he dislikes Clinton. The African-American legislator recently told The State newspaper that Sanders message is more in line with the needs of working people and minorities.
Backing OMalley is state Sen. Vincent Sheheen, D-Kershaw the 2010 and 2014 Democratic nominee for governor who had help from OMalley on the campaign trail.
The more that this race progresses, the question is, do we look to the past or do we look to the future? Sheheen said.
OMalley is the candidate that represents the future. ... He has spent the last decade dealing with problems that affect everyday people.
Other Democratic presidential candidates, Sheheen added, have been part of the Washington establishment.
Clinton is stuck in the 80s and 90s, and we live in an entirely new world now, said Boyd Brown, a Democratic National Committeeman and co-chair of OMalleys S.C. campaign.
Her husbands administration did great things for the country, but those days are over, Brown added.
Brown also said he does not want to see Clinton elected because hes tired of giving the United States Congress an excuse not to work.
State Rep. Terry Alexander, D-Florence, supported Clinton in 08, but now is backing Sanders, though not because he dislikes Clinton. The African-American legislator recently told The State newspaper that Sanders message is more in line with the needs of working people and minorities.
Backing OMalley is state Sen. Vincent Sheheen, D-Kershaw the 2010 and 2014 Democratic nominee for governor who had help from OMalley on the campaign trail.
The more that this race progresses, the question is, do we look to the past or do we look to the future? Sheheen said.
OMalley is the candidate that represents the future. ... He has spent the last decade dealing with problems that affect everyday people.
Other Democratic presidential candidates, Sheheen added, have been part of the Washington establishment.
Clinton is stuck in the 80s and 90s, and we live in an entirely new world now, said Boyd Brown, a Democratic National Committeeman and co-chair of OMalleys S.C. campaign.
Her husbands administration did great things for the country, but those days are over, Brown added.
Brown also said he does not want to see Clinton elected because hes tired of giving the United States Congress an excuse not to work.
Link: http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article47007095.html
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Why Some SC Democrats Are Not Backing Front-Runner Clinton - TheState (Original Post)
WillyT
Nov 2015
OP
As if Congress would work better for the other two. Just look at the obstruction Pres. Obama has
Metric System
Nov 2015
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Metric System
(6,048 posts)1. As if Congress would work better for the other two. Just look at the obstruction Pres. Obama has
faced.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)2. Of course they hesitate to do so.
And thank you for reporting it.
RandySF
(86,158 posts)3. And I am sure you'll find people in Vermont who do not support Bernie.
Non-news story here.
#FeelTheBern #Bernie2016
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,996 posts)5. Whoomp there it is
Democratic Vermont Leaders Fail To Endorse Sanders For President
Vermont U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders may be popular among the dispossessed and a segment of the Democratic Party, but hes not getting support from key leaders in his home state as he mounts his presidential campaign.
Bernie Sanders served as mayor of Burlington from 1981 to 1989. He captured Vermonts only U.S. House seat in 1990 and won a spot in the Senate in 2007. The independent caucuses with the Democrats and is running for president as one.
On the day Sanders announced the details of his hometown presidential campaign kickoff, Vermont Governor Democrat Peter Shumlin tweeted his endorsement of Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Vermonts senior Senator Democrat Patrick Leahy has already endorsed Clinton. The The Democratic leader of the Vermont House, Shap Smith, says he will probably follow suit and endorse Clinton.
http://wamc.org/post/democratic-vermont-leaders-fail-endorse-sanders-president#stream/0
Vermont U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders may be popular among the dispossessed and a segment of the Democratic Party, but hes not getting support from key leaders in his home state as he mounts his presidential campaign.
Bernie Sanders served as mayor of Burlington from 1981 to 1989. He captured Vermonts only U.S. House seat in 1990 and won a spot in the Senate in 2007. The independent caucuses with the Democrats and is running for president as one.
On the day Sanders announced the details of his hometown presidential campaign kickoff, Vermont Governor Democrat Peter Shumlin tweeted his endorsement of Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Vermonts senior Senator Democrat Patrick Leahy has already endorsed Clinton. The The Democratic leader of the Vermont House, Shap Smith, says he will probably follow suit and endorse Clinton.
http://wamc.org/post/democratic-vermont-leaders-fail-endorse-sanders-president#stream/0
SCantiGOP
(14,758 posts)6. She will win SC by 2:1
I have been involved in SC politics for 50 years. Worked for Obama in '08, and I am supporting Clinton this time. My guess right now would be about a 60/30/10 split among the three.
On Edit: the story shows the current polling even stronger than my prediction: it stands at 71/21/3, so the headline is quite misleading from the reality.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,996 posts)9. If she has a good head of steam can she crack 80% ?
EOM
SCantiGOP
(14,758 posts)11. That might be a bit of a reach
But in any case it will be a strong firewall if she underperforms in either Iowa or NH.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)7. Do you have to get 100% support to win the SC primary?
I'm not sure I've heard of that rule.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,996 posts)8. Do you have to get 100% support to win the SC primary?
Those are Third World dictator numbers.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)10. Ha!
oasis
(53,963 posts)12. Is this an indication of a sudden flood of support for Bernie?