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The desperation is boundless!
Robert Kagan, one of the grandfathers of the neocon movement--has praised Hillary Clinton's foreign-policy stances and her pro-war approach to the Middle East?
Hillary and her neocon tendencies. What a knee slapper! Stop, stop...oh my sides!
Read and weep (or laugh, depending on how much you sympathize with the neocons):
"...Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes. Mr. Kagan pointed out that he had recently attended a dinner of foreign-policy experts at which Mrs. Clinton was the guest of honor, and that he had served on her bipartisan group of foreign-policy heavy hitters at the State Department, where his wife worked as her spokeswoman.
“I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy,” Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obama’s more realist approach “could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table” if elected president. “If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue,” he added, “it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html?_r=0
An undated photograph of Hillary Rodham, center, during her days as a student at Wellesley College, from 1965 to 1969. Corbis
___In September 1968, Hillary Diane Rodham, role model and student government president, was addressing Wellesley College freshmen girls — back when they were still called “girls” — about methods of protest. It was a hot topic in that overheated year of what she termed “confrontation politics from Chicago to Czechoslovakia.”
“Dynamism is a function of change,” Ms. Rodham said in her speech. “On some campuses, change is effected through nonviolent or even violent means. Although we too have had our demonstrations, change here is usually a product of discussion in the decision-making process.”
As the nation boiled over Vietnam, civil rights and the slayings of two charismatic leaders, Ms. Rodham was completing a sweeping intellectual, political and stylistic shift. She came to Wellesley as an 18-year-old Republican, a copy of Barry Goldwater’s right-wing treatise, “The Conscience of a Conservative,” on the shelf of her freshman dorm room. She would leave as an antiwar Democrat whose public rebuke of a Republican senator in a graduation speech won her notice in Life magazine as a voice for her generation.
read: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/us/politics/05clinton.html?_r=1&
first I see a thread about her health/age now we're digging back to 1965.
Give you some idea how ridiculous this is. This was 2 years before I was born. 
Are you fan of Elizabeth Warren? I love her to death. I really wish she was running. She'd be my first choice....but you do know about her history right?
This is silly & I'm not even team Hillary.
