2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum68% of Democrats find Clinton trustworthy, only 35% of Independents and 4% of Republicans. By gender
only 30% of men and 41% of women find Clinton trustworthy. By education level, only 37% of those with a college degree and 35% of those without a degree find Clinton trustworthy.
Clinton's trustworthiness might be enough to barely win a primary because Democrats are the only demographic where a majority of voters do not distrust her, but the voters' lack of trust in Clinton would be fatal in the general election because voters consider honesty and trustworthiness to be key issues when choosing a candidate:
With a virtual monopoly on "establishment" support, the constituency Clinton lacks is the voters.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Maybe you can find a word cloud.
jkbRN
(850 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)put a Republican in office.
jkbRN
(850 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Don't hang your stetson on that trust worthy thing.
It's mostly a result of right wing scandals that have no basis.
Give me the name of someone else who has had as much bull shit slung at her and has survived to lead the pack in a primary campaign.
jkbRN
(850 posts)Given that they "sling bull shit at her" and produce "right wing scandals"... Doesn't seem like the republicans will give her the time of day if she is POTUS--if you disagree please explain why and how she would be able to mend her long history of fighting with the Republican Party.
LonePirate
(13,408 posts)They will not work with Sanders or O'Malley, either.
You? Lol....can't you at least back that up with some sort of evidence? I mean come on... That was a terribly sad response.
LonePirate
(13,408 posts)That's not going to happen. It hasn't happened during Obama's two terms and it won't happen during the first term of whichever Democrat we elect next November.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)cost Hillary more in terms of trustworthiness than it affected Obama or Kerry or Gore or her husband.
Clinton has no crossover appeal.
Clinton has no significant appeal to independents.
I will vote for her if Sanders does not get the nomination, but her appeal is not even enthusiastic among Democrats:
Theres cause for concern in Hillaryland, the constellation of Democratic advisers, supporters and politicians counting on the former secretary of state to lead the party to a sweeping victory next November.... The worries of some Clinton insiders are focused on the general election. There is an enthusiasm gap. Surveys of voters at this early stage of the campaign show that young people, independents, possibly even blacks and Hispanics are not excited about her candidacy.... Mrs. Clinton has a striking problem with young voters. A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll showed that a solid plurality of young voters has a negative view of Mrs. Clinton. She did even worse in a Bloomberg Politics national poll.
Here is a result to unnerve her Brooklyn campaign headquarters: Both Barack Obama and Bill Clinton get a 60 percent favorable rating with 18-to-29-year-olds. She gets 35 percent approval and 57 percent unfavorable.
In the last presidential election, 19 percent of the voters were in that age cohort, which Mr. Obama won, 60 percent to 37 percent, providing his overall margin. There was a substantial decline in the number of young voters in the off-year elections, probably costing Democrats a couple Senate seats; a similar drop-off in 2016 might be decisive in a close election.
Mrs. Clinton also has big problems with independent voters. In the nomination contest, shes running well ahead of her chief challenger, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. But she loses to him among Democratic-leaning independents. Over all, independents are negative about her by a margin of better than 3-to-2.
In 2012, almost three in 10 voters were independents, and Mr. Obama came close to splitting that vote with Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate.
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Interviews with voters and focus groups suggest that Mrs. Clinton has a likability problem; more than a few young voters, particularly, as well as some independents, say that they are turned off by her persona and that she seems old hat. In a famous exchange in a 2008 debate, Mr. Obama cracked, youre likable enough, Hillary.
Another liability is that, as of now, many voters, according to polls and focus groups, do not find her trustworthy. The publics negative view was reinforced by her clumsy handling of the controversy over her private email server as secretary of state.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)The fact is there aren't enough Democrats to put her over the top and with problems with a significant portion of Democrats she's going to need support from constituencies who don't look likely to give it to her.
jkbRN
(850 posts)Facts don't change in the real world, my friend.
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)Brand Spanking New Ipsos Reuters Likely Democratic Voter Poll-HRC 77% SBS 17% MOM 3%
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)saturnsring
(1,832 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)jkbRN
(850 posts)You are the best.
jfern
(5,204 posts)LOL, so much fail from Hillary supporters.