NEW robust landline-cellphone Quinnipiac poll -Clinton 60% (+7) Sanders 30% (-5)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

On the Democratic side, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton widens her lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont to 60 - 30 percent, compared to 53 - 35 percent in a November 4 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley has 2 percent, with 6 percent undecided.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2307

A + METHODOLGY



This RDD telephone survey was conducted from November 23 – 30, 2015 throughout the
nation.
Responses are reported for 1,453 registered voters with a margin of sampling error of +/-
2.6 percentage points. The survey includes 672 Republican or Republican leaning voters
with a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.8 percentage points and 573 Democratic or
Democratic leaning voters with a margin of sampling error of +/- 4.1 percentage points.
Margins of sampling error for additional subgroups are listed in tables below.
Surveys are conducted in English or Spanish dependent on respondent preference with live
interviewers calling land lines and cell phones.
All data was collected and tabulated by the Quinnipiac University Poll

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us12022015_demos_U45hkpp.pdf

[Iliyah]

1. K & R

[livetohike]

2. Excellent! n/t

[JaneyVee]

3. K AND R!

[Alfresco]

4. Excellent news with my morning coffee. Thanks.

[Alfresco]

8. DU Deniers, it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

[brooklynite]

13. I KNEW I forgot something this morning...

[anti partisan]

68. The real deniers are those who think we will just stand by idly and watch a warmonger get the nom

[Alfresco]

70. What are you going to do? Start a Revolution?

[anti partisan]

73. Well people like you make me want to stay home come Election Day

I'm not all that spiteful of a person though.

But you may want to refrain from open taunting. That's not a great way to get people to join your cause.

[Alfresco]

78. I accept your apology for calling our future President a warmonger.

Good Day.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. You are welcome

[NCTraveler]

5. The party is unifying.

Big time. Republicans are about to be met head on by a unified Democratic Party. We really have a great opportunity to build off the success of the Obama administration.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. United We Stand

[seabeyond]

7. Kickin' ass. Thank you. Nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. ...

[seabeyond]

11. Ya. Just that. Nt.

[randome]

10. Now wait a minute, no one called me so this is not a valid poll.

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[Laser102]

14. Thank you for the good news. Also, I love the song.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. From the same era

[anti partisan]

16. Bernie also polling better against Republicans in the same poll (nt)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Last time I checked to get in the championship game you need to win the playoffs (nt)

[anti partisan]

18. And last time I checked you start your best quarterback in the Super Bowl!

The Democrats and Republicans have already basically made it to the Super Bowl, now it's all about who to start.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. I go with the quarterback who has delivered for me in the past...

The Clintons have been delivering for the Democrats for over forty years. The other gentleman walked on the team last April.

[anti partisan]

21. It does matter what they are delivering. One is delivering war, and one progress. Guess who I pick

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. The one who has a lead barely within the MOE, despite not having a glove laid on him yet? (nt)

[anti partisan]

29. Bernie has this special ability about him. The more people hear about him, the more they like him

That is why both HRC and RNC, and their sponsors Goldman Sachs, want people to hear as little as possible about Bernie.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. So that explains him losing 2-1 among the people who know him best, okay

"Bernie has this special ability about him. The more people hear about him, the more they like him..."

So that explains him losing 2-1 among the people who know him best (Democratic primary voters) , okay

[anti partisan]

32. No, the people who know him best are the natives of Vermont

Where he happens to have the highest approval rating of any Senator in the country.

#1/100

[VanillaRhapsody]

38. Believe me when I tell you thus

He has been caucussing with Dems 40 yrs ...Democrats know who he is....

[anti partisan]

49. Yeah ask your average Democrat to name 3 facts about Bernie Sanders

And you very well may get a blank stare and look of utter confusion.

Most of those people support Hillary, and there is a lot of fertile ground there.

Knowing who he is.. not quite. But of course there is time. Time that HRC wish didn't exist.

[VanillaRhapsody]

53. Uh baloney...they will say Scocialist from

Vermont...

[Walk away]

74. And they overwhelmingly don't endorse him!!!!!

He can't eve get another Senator to mention his name unless it's a republican trying to make Democrats look bad!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. Oh, the state that has the population of a congressional district and has

Oh, the state that has the population of a congressional district and has the same demographics as a NHL game?

[anti partisan]

51. I don't think anyone really asked for your race baiting but those people do know him quite well

And they like what they see

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. How is it race baiting to cite the homogeneity or heterogeneity of a demographic?

It is my experience that those who point a finger at someone often have three fingers pointing back at themselves.

[anti partisan]

55. Well with that kind of dishonesty, I know you're never going to support Bernie

It is clear that you are talking about white people, who are just as an integral part to the Democratic Party as everyone else, as we fight the common fight for progress.

[VanillaRhapsody]

58. Let me guess.....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. Yes, Vermont is a homogeneous state...

Yes, Vermont is a homogeneous state... That's an empirical observation and not a normative one, no less empirical and no more normative than to say California, New York, Florida, and Texas, et cetera are heterogeneous states...

A successful leader must reach all demographics in a nation as heterogeneous as our nation.

[VanillaRhapsody]

54. Uh no they don't...

His poll numbers would show that ....and they don't

[anti partisan]

59. New Survey Finds That Bernie Sanders is Most Popular Senator in America

News, news, read all about it!

http://morningconsult.com/polls/new-survey-finds-that-bernie-sanders-is-most-popular-senator-in-america/

I know you are one of Hillary's top Internet supporters so I won't waste too many breaths here.

[VanillaRhapsody]

63. So you now admit

They know who he is?

[anti partisan]

67. In-state approval ratings, meaning these are natives of Vermont who know and love him

[Duval]

92. Missed this one! Thanks

[mythology]

60. A claim that is made less plausible by Sanders plateau in polling

Sanders appeal was always to a limited demographic and that hasn't changed. Unless you want to claim that minorities and women aren't aware of Sanders.

[anti partisan]

65. Maybe you missed the thing about the whole media blackout...

And yes minorities do not know much about Sanders, as shown in crosstabs of national polls.

His record will speak for itself. It already has to many people, and will to many more.

[VanillaRhapsody]

36. Not even THAT long ago.

Maybe a month ago he said "I am a Democrat now"...

[moobu2]

22. Bernie hasn't been seriously vetted yet though

If anyone actually thought Bernie had a chance to be the D. nominee, the GOP would go after him and so would the media. Bernie's poll numbers would reflect that new attention.

[anti partisan]

24. Both sides are using marginalization as the preferred strategy, so your premise is bunk

They specifically want to avoid giving him attention. Gee, I wonder why...

[moobu2]

27. They dont give him attention because he's irrelevant.

[anti partisan]

30. They CHOOSE not to give him attention HOPING he will be irrelevant

But there he is with constant 30+% in the polls, in contention to win the first two states, and pushing HRC into adopting more progressive positions.

How's that for irrelevancy?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Is losing by seventeen points in IA in contention to win the state?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-primary


Is losing by seventeen points in IA in contention to win the state?

[anti partisan]

43. No, being in contention in IA is being in contention in IA

Mainly, having the ground game and impassioned supporters that will not only change minds but also turn out for the caucuses for a historic victory.

He will also get tons of votes from those who don't even show up in the polls (those who either didn't vote last time or vote for the most honest candidates and voted Ron Paul last time).

People generally don't care all that much about politics this early, but just you wait...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. Senator Sanders should be proud to have such passionate and devoted supporters.

That in and of itself is a victory.

[anti partisan]

47. Yes, and sign 1 of a bigger victory ;)

[moobu2]

42. 30% is barely out of the 20's

Unless Bernie Sanders can find some kind of smear that sticks...he's done. Everybody knows it besides Bernie bubble people.

[anti partisan]

46. Bernie is above smears and that's another reason we support him

Hillary and her surrogates sadly can't say the same

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. But not above losing apparently.....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. They are ignoring him in the faint hope he will be the nominee because they know he will be easy ...

They are ignoring him in the faint hope he will be the nominee because they know he will be easy to beat...

[floriduck]

57. Some interesting details.

Not only does Bernie have a greater margin of victory over the GOPers, but he is viewed as the most honest of all candidates (you'd never know it by the attackers on this site) and a whopping 41% of those polled indicated that they could change their mind. So hold off on the celebrations cause this show ain't over folks.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. It's over...

Bookmark this post.

[floriduck]

81. Sure, whatever you say.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. It's over... Time to give up the ghost.

I would put the Vermont independent's chances somewhere below Dan Campbell hoisting the Vince Lombardi trophy next February 7th.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I will be gloating a year from now when she's #45...

Gloat now over your corporate bought-and-paid-for candidate...... just like ya did 8 years ago... enjoy it while it lasts...

I will be gloating a year from now when she's #45... I would literally bet my life on it, so far no takers.

[JoePhilly]

25. Yea, but millinials only TEXT their responses to polls ... did they count TEXTS????

I bet not!!!

So its a BS poll!!!!!!

Or something like that.

[lunamagica]

33. LOL!

[retrowire]

34. You're all going to be blindsided.

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[VanillaRhapsody]

44. Blindsided by what?

I think you have those binoculars on backwards....

[MrWendel]

69. Okay...

[lunamagica]

37. K&R. Great numbers for Hillary

Again, time to retire the cell phone excuse

[still_one]

39. It is good news for Hillary. I see Quinnipiac still seems to favor slightly over-sampling

republicans verses Democrats

[Walk away]

75. And yet the results are completely in line with....

every other poll that has come out in the past few weeks. Just goes to show you...no matter how you slice it, Hillary has twice as much support as Sanders!!!!

[still_one]

79. I agree

[MaggieD]

41. But, but, but

Online polls! Bernie is winning in 50 states!

Seriously though, I love it when I wake up in the morning and Hillary is still winning. By a mile.

[Helen Borg]

48. Looks like Hillary is toast!

[askew]

50. Pretty surprising that Hillary supporters would want to draw attention to this poll.

It shows how unelectable she is in the general.

Hillary Clinton is viewed unfavorably by women to the tune of 41% to 54%

"Hillary Clinton cares about the needs and problems of people like you?"
46% yes
51% no.

Obama beat Romney on this in 2012 by 60+ pts.

Hillary is a flawed, damaged candidate and if we go into the general with her, we will lose.

[okasha]

61. Because Trump Carson, Cruise, etc.

care so much about women.

[MrWendel]

71. Hmmmm...

[Recursion]

85. Doesn't matter. Voters have repeatedly shown they'll support candidates they view unfavorably

And after decades this somehow still surprises people...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. "Hillary is a flawed, damaged candidate and if we go into the general with her, we will lose."

Hillary is a flawed, damaged candidate and if we go into the general with her, we will lose.

You couldn't be more wrong...I would literally bet my life on it.

A wager...

If Hillary loses the G E I will eat dirt and put it on youtube under "Man Loses Bet" as long as my wagering partner promises to do the same if she wins...

Of course nobody will take my wager because nobody has my strength of conviction.

[Duval]

93. DemocratSinceBirth, please don't bet your life.

I hope to see you here after Bernie wins.

[NurseJackie]

64. Yesterday's 70% poll was great fun, but this one seems to be a bit more realistic.

I'm not complaining, this one is fun and encouraging too.

[Jarqui]

72. Not entirely great results for Hillary:

______ Clinton Sanders
Trump .. +6 ...... +8
Cruz ..... +5 ...... +10
Rubio .... +1 ...... +1
Carson .. +3 ...... +6

Sanders continues to show better as a candidate in the general election because

Sanders Beats All Top Republicans In Latest Poll
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-beats-republican-candidates-poll_565ee12ce4b079b2818c95fc

"Fifty-nine percent of voters also say Sanders is honest and trustworthy -- placing him well above former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, his chief rival for the Democratic nomination, and above all top Republican candidates tested in the poll."

14 Percent of Democrats Will Not Support Hillary Clinton. Only Bernie Sanders Prevents Low Voter Turnout
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/14-of-democrats-will-not-support-hillary-clinton-only-bernie-sanders-prevents-low-voter-turnout_b_8696238.htm

ln addition to the 14% of Democrats who won't support Clinton, 27% would "support her with some reservations" and 11% would "only back her because she is the nominee."

Based on the CBS News findings, around 52% of Democrats will either stay home or reluctantly drive to the polls. Not the recipe to beat a Republican, who if Clinton is the nominee, will have millions of new conservatives/independents doing everything possible in order to ensure Hillary Clinton doesn't get elected.
....
Also, look closer within polls stating Clinton leads Sanders and you'll find that voters don't admire Clinton. The same NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll in October showing Clinton with a commanding 31 point lead over Bernie Sanders also finds that many Democrats view Clinton in an unfavorable manner. In this poll, 26 percent of respondents gave Hillary Clinton a 1 out of 5 (the lowest rating, titled "Very Poor Rating&quot and 11 percent gave her a 2 out of 5 pertaining to "Having the right temperament."

Sorry, but if around 37 percent of respondents (in a poll that's supposed to be favorable) don't feel Clinton has the "right temperament," low voter turnout is a logical consequence if Clinton becomes the nominee.

As for "Being compassionate enough to understand average people," the October NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that 30 percent of voters gave Hillary Clinton the worst rating, or a 1 out of 5.

Interestingly, when voters in this poll respond to "Having high personal standards that set the proper moral tone for the country," 37 percent of respondents give Hillary Clinton a "Very Poor Rating" of 1 out of 5.

I wouldn't be jumping up and down with glee at those results. Hillary has a real problem looming in the general election. More and more, Bernie is looking like the better horse for the general election. Winning the primary is pretty hollow if the candidate who wins cannot wind up in the White House.

[Walk away]

76. Hillary Clinton is winning over every other candidate running and....

completely crushing Bernie Sanders in the Primaries.

Twist, spin and type as many words as you can. It doesn't change anything.

[Jarqui]

80. I think these will help ...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. It is silly to compare a candidate who has been in the fray for forty years and one who has been...

It is silly to compare a candidate's favorable ratings who has been in the fray for forty years and one who has been in the fray for eight months but you know that. If you don't, you should.

The Vermont independent wilted under a two minute attack from Governor O'Malley on his gun position:

I can't even begin to fathom how he would wither under a relentless Go(PU) attack.

[Jarqui]

88. What is really silly is to ignore this:

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us12022015_U45hkpp.pdf

Favorability:
Sanders +13
Rubio +9
Carson +7
Cruz 0
Clinton -7%
Trump -22

American voters say
59 – 28 percent, +31 that Sanders is honest and trustworthy
53 – 34 percent, +19 that Carson is honest and trustworthy
49 – 33 percent, +16 that Rubio is honest and trustworthy
43 – 39 percent, +4 that Cruz is honest and trustworthy

59 – 35 percent, -24 that Trump is not honest and trustworthy.
60 – 36 percent, -24 that Clinton is not honest and trustworthy.

I can't think of any candidate for president that won with favorability and trustworthy numbers as bad as Hillary's

39% of Republicans and 64% of Independents trust Bernie vs 7% Republicans and 26% Independents trusting Clinton.

That's not good for Hillary in the general election.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

89. Hillary has been in the fray for forty years but the others haven't...

This is a sterile debate...How sterile do I think it is? This sterile:


A wager...

If Hillary loses the G E I will eat dirt and put it on youtube under "Man Loses Bet" as long as my wagering partner promises to do the same if she wins...

Of course nobody will take my wager because nobody has my strength of conviction.

[Jarqui]

90. I could care less what you eat - win or lose

It has nothing to do with the strength of your "conviction" - though many might argue some other word is more appropriate.

On a state by state basis for electroral votes, right now, Hillary is currently handily behind Rubio for example. He's cleaning her clock right now. With her bad favorability and trustworthy numbers, her only practical hope against him is that he blows up somehow. With his credit card problems in the open, that doesn't look so likely. With her bad favorability and trustworthy numbers, enthusiasm for her is down and she is not going to get help from independents or Republicans. And therefore, has a very difficult task to come back against Rubio. We knew she had this ceiling when she ran against Obama except it's gotten worse.

The reason so many do not trust Hillary is because she's been lying to the American public longer so everybody knows about her chronic problem with not telling the truth. So this much you got right: "because she's been in the fray for forty years" ... roughly 2/3rds of Americans know from experience with her that she's a chronic liar.

We saw more of it yesterday with her disgusting doubling down on the 9/11 BS to explain her Wall Street donations that flowed to her and her husband long before 9/11 and paid off with things like her support for the bankruptcy bill (going against Elizabeth Warren).

If she wins, I'll support her to win the White House because all of our work over the last ten years could get undone with a Republican president. But I don't like her chances. Hillary has a serious problem as a general election candidate. Bernie is no sure thing either but I like Bernie's chances better because he is an honest man not owned by Wall Street who polls better among independents and Republicans.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

91. I don't blame you from demurring from my wager and insolently so at that.

I could care less what you eat - win or lose

I don't blame you from demurring from my wager and insolently so at that.

There is a reason Hillary Clinton is an 8/11 favorite at the betting markets while the great (sic) Marco Rubio is a 4/1 underdog:


http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner


Oh, Bernie Sanders is a 14-1 underdog. That's worse odds than Donald Trump:

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner

The notion that a independent senator from a small, rural, and homogenous state that is the size of a congressional district is some political superstar is beyond preposterous.


This doesn't take a Nate Silver or Drew Linzer to game out. Hillary Clinton dispatches of the Vermont independent, probably some time in February than she summarily dispatches of whatever clown the Go(PU) offers up as a sacrificial lamb next November.
I would literally bet my life on it.

[Jarqui]

95. This time in 2007, Obama was about 12.5% chance to win the primary

Some polls had him behind about 30 pts.

Hillary was the heavy favorite for the coronation.

What happened? Did America sober up or wake up?

As for the betting markets, that's Wall Street money laying a bunch of those bets while financing Hillary's campaign. In fact, it's been reported campaigns put their thumb on those with some bets. With similar odds and similar Wall Street money, they lost real bad in 2008, didn't they.

Even if Hillary wins the primary, unless Trump runs as an independent, she won't be favored or favored for long. Koch money in ads is going to hammer her with all the material they have on her. From the convention until November, they can run new ads every week featuring a different big Clinton fib (to leverage bad vibes on her near record high untrustworthiness in the polls) and a different big flip-flop (to leverage bad vibes on her near record low favorability in the polls) and nasty inferences about Benghazi, emails, Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica, Vince Foster, brain damage/confused, Wall Street/Clinton Foundation money, etc. I think it's going to make the swiftboating of John Kerry look trivial in comparison.

Brace yourself. It's gonna get real nasty.

If Bernie were to win the primary, they don't have a nasty dirty laundry list for him like they do Hillary and Republicans and Independents trust Bernie much more and his favorability is much better than Hillary's with them. Medicare for all might be an easier sell than Obamacare - certainly not likely to be as offensive to Independents and Republicans. I think Bernie's a better candidate for the general election.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

96. Politics is a blood sport and the Clintons have mastered it.

Even if Hillary wins the primary, unless Trump runs as an independent, she won't be favored or favored for long. Koch money in ads is going to hammer her with all the material they have on her. From the convention until November, they can run new ads every week featuring a different big Clinton fib (to leverage bad vibes on her near record high untrustworthiness in the polls) and a different big flip-flop (to leverage bad vibes on her near record low favorability in the polls) and nasty inferences about Benghazi, emails, Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica, Vince Foster, brain damage/confused, Wall Street/Clinton Foundation money, etc. I think it's going to make the swiftboating of John Kerry look trivial in comparison.

What you are missing is when the GOPU fires on Team Clinton they will fire back but with ten times as much force and venom...When Team Clinton gets through with their GO(PU) opponent he will look like like a cross between Bull Connor and Sheriff Joe Arpaio...Politics is a blood sport and the Clinton's have mastered it. In fact the Clinton loves when the opponents go negative because that allows them to go negative...

What does Ken Starr, Newt Gingrich, and Bob Livingston have in common? All G(PU) heads on the Clinton's wall!!!

[Gothmog]

77. These are strong polling numbers

Thanks for posting

[DemocratSinceBirth]

83. "These are strong polling numbers."

[workinclasszero]

86. The party is forming behind Hillary

She will be the democratic party nominee! I can't wait!

61 days to the 2016 Iowa Presidential Caucuses!!!

[mcar]

94. Excellent!