2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCurrent Democratic Primary Polling Shows Something Many
have not yet noticed:
Today's Quinnipiac poll shows a 60%-%30%-2% spread. The thing that is going unnoticed is that those percentages add up to 92%. The number of undecided people being polled has dropped significantly over the past month or so.
What happened in this latest one is that Clinton's increase was countered by a decrease for Sanders. That will start being the pattern from now on in polling. With few undecided respondents, changes will come more slowly and those changes will show an increase for one candidate at the cost of another candidate more and more often.
People are making up their minds. Most already have. With a 30% difference between Clinton and Sanders, the gap can no longer be filled by undecided voters. Any changes will require a swap, since the remaining undecided voters are likely to stay in that category going forward. There is always a small percentage that remains undecided in polling. Right now that's only about 8%. Once it gets down to 5%, it will probably stay there.
This will be apparent in the aggregate charts. If one candidate's line goes up, the other will go down. We're already seeing that with the steepening of Clinton's curve, compared to a flattening of Sanders'. Any increase above 60% for Clinton will send Sanders' number into a downward curve.
The percentages are what they are, and they're getting closer to 100% having made a choice. Polling will either remain about the same or gains for one candidate will result in losses for the other. O'Malley seems to be stuck in the low single digits, and I don't expect much change in that.
Watch the aggregate curves to see the trends. They will tell the story in the coming weeks.
SunSeeker
(51,646 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)You make a great point.
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)to national politics. It's still a valuable place to discuss things, but it has no relationship to real-world political trends.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)when a young man was trailing further behind in the polls...
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)I didn't join DU, though, until just before the election, so I didn't follow the discussions here.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)I'm just saying... these polls really don't mean much other than to eliminate outliers. And Bernie ain't one of those... so let's hold on and see what comes.
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)It only means that gains by one candidate will come from losses by another. That's the important factor. For Bernie to gain, for example, he will need people now polling for Clinton to switch. That's a more difficult thing than getting undecided voters to decide for Sanders. The same applies to Hillary. Any gains she makes going forward will come from Sanders supporters.
That's why I think these numbers are going to be fairly stationary for some time.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)states 41% indicated they could change their minds on who to vote for. It ain't over till it's over-RIP Yogi.
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)minds. My point is that any change will be a give and take thing. Nobody's numbers will go up without someone else's going down.
brooklynite
(94,684 posts)2/3 of Clinton voters say their minds are made up, 50% of Sanders voters say they could change their minds.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)Your posts are always enlightening to someone.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... many Bernie fans have tried for a long time to argue that Hillary's support was soft. It appears now that the opposite is true. I'm sure that's worrisome for them.
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