2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton: "We do have the best law enforcement in the world"
David Chalian, Political Director @CNN
Clinton: "We do have the best law enforcement in the world, the best military, the best intelligence services."
ok.... highly doubtful
The Counted Database of People killed by police in the US
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)they choose not to be.
Mika
(17,751 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)I was hearing this:
Autumn
(45,120 posts)enforcement members kills as many citizens as ours does. That must make them the best at what they do.
That's fucking just in case this disclaimer is needed.
The pictures are heartbreaking.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Even though that site lists everyone including some really violent people who maybe it's their own fault in a way, there are also a lot of people who totally didn't deserve it.
angrychair
(8,733 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Seems to be a part of our healthcare system.............
PoliticalMalcontent
(449 posts)That's one of the reasons why our healthcare needs an overhaul. I'm fortunate enough to have health insurance. Still... My wait time see someone for depression? Three months. That was enough for me to not seek help initially. Depression is a bitch. I can't imagine how hard it'd be for people with other psychiatric illnesses.
Something really needs to change. The wait times are truly unacceptable.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)I suffer from depression myself due to chronic pain and choose not to take anything because many times the meds have caused me increased headaches and other side effects. I would like to go and speak to someone but the cost even with being under my wife's insurance to much for us to handle.
A little off topic but near my home last year around Halloween a son chopped off his mother's head and left her body and head in the street in front of her apartment. He realized what he did and jumped in front of train and died.
The woman's brother who is a Priest told reporters that no doctor would take the son's medicaid so he ran out of the medication which controlled his psychosis. This has to stop, two people are dead because of money and lack of compassion for those who suffer from mental illness.
I wish you the very best with your struggles, like you said it is a bitch.
PoliticalMalcontent
(449 posts)Best of luck my new-found friend.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Far too often mental illness is treated like some kind of crime. It's not necessarily the cops fault but if they are faced with it then they should be trained for it and treating people with respect and care, and not like animals or enemies.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Bravenak
Leser
MaggieD?
frylock
(34,825 posts)bwahahahahaha!!!
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I actually did laugh aloud with no one in the room when I read your post. Well done, Art. Take a bow.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)One finds his/her self.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)"In the first 24 days of 2015, police in the US fatally shot more people than police did in England and Wales, combined, over the past 24 years."
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries
kath
(10,565 posts)I knew the U.S. way outnumbered other countries, but Jeebus H. Christ on a Trailer Hitch.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Thanks for that one
olddots
(10,237 posts)bad guestion ?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Go in front of one crowd and say we need police reform, go in front of a different crowd and say we have the best cops on earth. Pure political pander.
kath
(10,565 posts)Nah, NEVER.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And she's objectively correct. Which country is better?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)the credit. Or could you be wrong?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)American police catch the most criminals, which makes America the safest country in the world because it has the most successful police.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)... Than we do? In what way are they better?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)on the side of the road? Haven't you heard about police targeting black people for all kinds of minor offenses just to get the money.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And you know that. So why the false meme? I find the impression you are trying to leave to be unethical. You did not provide the context for a reason. Am I correct?
She has been extremely critical of local policing that targets minorities. And you know that as well. Don't you?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)the best law enforcement in the world.
We do not have the best law enforcement in the world. The cops are corrupt and it's not just a few bad apples, it's the whole damn system.
Politicians are not going to get away with saying one thing on a Monday and then saying the opposite that Thursday just because the crowd is different.
You can't go to Alabama and put a Rosa Parks cartoon in your logo and talk to black people about police reform on Monday, and then on Thursday you go to New Hampshire, talk to white people, and say USA USA USA We have the best cops ever.
That's called pandering for votes. Sometimes people notice those things.
kath
(10,565 posts)Talk about tone deaf.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)It could very easily backfire if she's ever asked in a debate about America's issues.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Quite a change from Obama's slogan.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)If you aren't killed while being arrested, there is a good chance
you will be killed in jail.
We are so exceptional.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)BklnDem75
(2,918 posts)President Obama spoke this morning about the possibility that it was terror related. I know that everyone from the FBI to local police are doing everything they can to find the answers, tracking every lead, looking at every angle, and Im confident that they will determine what happened, and take whatever steps are necessary to prevent future attacks.
We do have the best law enforcement in the world, the best military, the best intelligence services. Weve seen that again and again. I was, as many of you may know, a Senator from New York on 9/11, and I spent a great deal of my time in the years since working with law enforcement, working with the military, working with intelligence services to do everything we could to prevent future attacks.
Weve seen their expertise and professionalism again and again. Were sure to see more of that in the days ahead. But I also want to note this, its important to remember, and I know this from the work I did as a Senator, particularly with law enforcement, the vast majority of Muslim Americans are just as concerned and heart-broken about this as anyone else. And no matter what motivation these killers, these murderers had, we can say one thing for certain, they should not have been able to do this. We cannot go on with losing 90 people a day to gun violence.
https://enewspf.com/2015/12/03/hillary-clinton-calls-for-expanding-women-owned-businesses-in-manchester/
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Any fucking thing at all. Whether it's true or not has absolutely no bearing on the issue whatsoever. It's unfuckingbelievable at this point.
pengu
(462 posts)She tied it to 9/11 and then bragged about our intel? The same intel that got us into Iraq? Good lord...
BklnDem75
(2,918 posts)You do understand she's referring to a possible terror attack, right?
pengu
(462 posts)I also understand that what she just said is both wrong, very offensive, and (further) demonstrates her very poor judgement.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)BklnDem75
(2,918 posts)Did it have the full transcript? If so, why not put the context in the OP?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Actually thanks for finding that because it's nice to have.
kath
(10,565 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... since protecting the .01% and their interests has become cops and the MIC primary mission.
Oligarchs and their thugs, ain't they just the bestest?
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)We know what's best for you.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)pengu
(462 posts)Found my own answer.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Louisiana Police Detective Raymond Mott, on the left, in Klan attire with a burning cross in the background
More: An annotated guide to racist police officers: More than a few bad apples and not just in the South
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I didn't open the link. I certainly hope the pig lost his job at least.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)That link is a bunch of examples of racist cops
An annotated guide to racist police officers: More than a few bad apples and not just in the South
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/08/1419383/-An-annotated-guide-to-racist-police-officers-more-than-a-few-bad-apples-and-not-just-in-the-South