Hillary Clinton ASKED About Paula Jones

[Segami]

Last edited Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:13 PM - Edit history (1)

(CNN)Hillary Clinton answered a question about Bill Clinton's alleged sexual impropriety on Thursday, saying that victims of sexual abuse "should be believed" until evidence disproves their allegations.

At a campaign stop in Hooksett, New Hampshire, a woman asked Clinton:

"Secretary Clinton, you recently came out to say that all rape victims should be believed. But would you say that Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones be believed as well?"

Clinton responded: "Well, I would say that everyone should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence."

She then moved on to the next question.

Broaddrick in 1999 said on NBC's "Dateline" that Bill Clinton had raped her two decades earlier, during his campaign for the Arkansas governor's office. Willey was a Democratic activist and White House volunteer who said that in 1993, Bill Clinton had grabbed and kissed her in the Oval Office's private study.

And Jones was an Arkansas state worker who sued Bill Clinton for sexual harassment, saying he'd propositioned her for sex and exposed himself during a 1991 meeting in a hotel room. Bill Clinton's office declined CNN's request for comment.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/politics/hillary-clinton-paula-jones-question/index.html

September 2015:

"...I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault,” Clinton said. “Don’t let anyone silence your voice. You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed, and we are with you as you go forward...."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-responds-29-point-drop-support-women/story?id=33756547

[randys1]

1. Translation, Bill's discretions are her fault.

[Cheese Sandwich]

5. Which discretions are those?

[randys1]

6. Sex with someone other than his wife, like most american men, or men period.

Hillary did not say he was or was not guilty of anything.

Did she.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. When the President or their spouse has sex on the side, it's a national security risk

[randys1]

11. This computer of mine is going BACK to the store, I could have SWORN the url

said democraticunderground.com

but i must be somewhere else..

[Cheese Sandwich]

12. Actually the President shouldn't get oral sex from interns either. It's wrong in many ways.

[MrWendel]

29. Maybe...

you can write an erotic story about it.

[PatrickforO]

51. LOL, yes, he probably has that old goat in heat thing

going...

Baa, baa, baby!

[Cheese Sandwich]

54. Bill Clinton was the greatest president of all time for comedians

That's true.

Even though sexual escapades in the White House are no laughing matter, the comedians of America do what they must to survive.

[Cheese Sandwich]

65. Awwww....

I wouldn't alert on you. I'm really not a republican troll. If you think I did something wrong, you know what to do friend.

[hrmjustin]

67. I stand by my post.

Good night.

[Cheese Sandwich]

74. Hey don't blame me for Bill Clinton's sexual escapades. Those are just part of life.

[MrWendel]

79. Its funnier the 5000 time a

republican asked it. If that's the best the tea party has then I think they will be okay. lol

[Beacool]

47. Yep, this post would do Free Republic proud.

I guess that all women are responsible for their partner's indiscretions, particularly since none of the accusations were proven in a court of law (except for the Monica fling and that relationship was consensual). The 21st century seems to be eluding this board.

[marshall]

103. Didn't Hillary lay part of the blame on her husband's mother and grandmother?

From news.com.au, quoting a 1999 interview Mrs. Clinton gave:

“There was terrible conflict between his mother and grandmother. A psychologist once told me that for a boy, being in the middle of a conflict between two women is the worst possible situation. There is always a desire to please each one,” she said.

[Bluzmann57]

18. Generalize much?

I do not cheat on my wife, have never cheated on my wife and do not intend to cheat on my wife. "Men , period". What a bullshit statement.

[Roy Ellefson]

87. everybody does it.

"like most american men, or men period" No, this married American man would never consider what WJC did...nor would most.

[6chars]

82. indiscretions?

[Fawke Em]

86. Wow, you're a poor translator.

I read that to mean that HILLARY said that rape victims should be believed except when SHE doesn't believe them.

I don't know if Wiley was sexually harassed, but she said she was. That she is accusing Hillary's husband is immaterial. The question is why does Hillary believe some women and not others when it's not convenient for her.

[LonePirate]

2. Was that a RWer who asked the question?

[Agschmid]

4. Can't tell anymore.

But most likely, Carly folks almost always try to disrupt her events in NH.

[Agschmid]

3. So it begins.

[panader0]

7. As a Bernie backer I think this shouldn't be part of the campaign

against Hillary. The policy differences are the reasons Bernie gets my vote.
The repubs may pursue Bill's indiscretions, but we should not.
On edit: I do NOT consider rape an "indiscretion".
He was obviously never convicted.

[Segami]

14. Its not about Bill's indiscretions....

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its about Hillary's stated position on sexual assault.....


September 2015

"...Today I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault," Clinton said. "Don't let anyone silence your voice. You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed and we're with you..."

I guess someone decided to challenge her position to see if she is still 'with' Paula, Juanita and Kathleen....

[BainsBane]

81. Where are you on Assange?

I can search, but I think I can guess. That is a man with rape charges pending, a fugitive from justice, whom far too many insist should be immune from justice.

And how is it that it is women who are always responsible for sexual assault and not the men? You are blaming Clinton for an allegation against her husband. It's astounding that for some all the ill in society is the fault of women. If they report an assault, they are liars. If their husband has a long-discredited allegation against him, it's the woman's fault.

Thanks again for showing how the opposition to Clinton by "progressives" has absolutely nothing to do with issues.

None of this has any impact on the election. All you have succeeded in doing is exposing yourself for the entire WWW to see. This election will pass. Long after it's in the rear view mirror, you will still be the person who resorted to this sort of tactic.

[Segami]

88. Huh?....

I don't know what you're talking about and maybe it would help if you took the time and re-read my post that you are answering to.

As for your comment "none of this has any impact on the election"....well ok,..unless you are gifted with the ability to pick jackpot winning lotto numbers at will, you don't know jack sh*t about which issues will or will not impact this election.....I'll file your comments away along with the other bright light bulb opinionators who have been squawking from day one about how Trump is finished, by next week he'll be done, his goose is cooked, it won't be long now, he can't hold on to lead much longer......yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda........well, where is Trump's standing presently and what's the new meme these talking heads are shouting today?

[BainsBane]

98. I have no doubt the GOP and their allies

Will try to resurrect every old scandal they can, but I somehow doubt even they aren't stupid enough to engage in such counter-productive political tactics.

As for your stream of consciousness rant about Trump, it is entirely non-responsive to my post. It doesn't deal with your determination to blame a woman for her husband's private behavior, or why you condemn Hillary Clinton for failing to denounce her husband yet not the so-called left for insisting that Assange, an accused rapist and fugitive from justice, should be above the law. It doesn't explain how you have the audacity to question her character while pulling this kind of shit, It's obvious you don't begin to hold yourself to the same standard you impose on Secretary Clinton, but it goes further than that; you hold yourself to no standard whatsoever. Your desperation is obvious, and this OP shows you know you're losing, and not just the election.

I'm sorry that some pundits and posters haven't paid the respect to Herr Trump that you think he deserves. I trust you will work diligently to remedy that.

[yeoman6987]

55. I kinda feel the same about all spouses including Columba bush

They are not running.

[LiberalArkie]

8. Political wives have always put up with that. It goes with the job.

[tularetom]

13. Yeah, like Clinton was the first president who had something going on the side

He was just a little clumsier about keeping it hushed up than most of the others.

[LiberalArkie]

17. I still believe it was a set up, seeing how Tripp used to work the Bush admin and was

Monicas roommate and recorded everything. It smelled to high heaven, like Arkansas politics. But Bill it seems alway liked playing the field and got caught, not that Hillary ever minded probably.

[Art_from_Ark]

24. "It smelled to high heaven, like Arkansas politics."

There was a time when I thought Arkansas politics were pretty clean. But maybe I was just brainwashed by my Boys' State experience.

[LiberalArkie]

31. I mean, what girl would allow someone else to record the phone calls and keep the dress.

I did hear from people I knew at Alltel at the time that Clinton had some Alltel switch people go there and check out the White House phone switch. Most of the line cards in were not the switch manufacturers but made by an Israeli company that did not sell them on the regular market. They inspected everything and changed out most of the cards.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

84. "Something going on the side"... is that what we call unwanted touching now?... What has DU become?

I hardly recognize this place anymore.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[OilemFirchen]

10. DSB style!

[workinclasszero]

15. Shame on you OP

Is this what Bernie Sanders wants his followers to do?

I sure as hell think not. This post belongs in a right wing sewer/fever swamp not DU

[Segami]

16. The only thing that belongs in a sewer

is your short-sighted comments.

[Major Nikon]

27. Well, at least the alert is swirling the bowl

[earthside]

21. Get used to it.

Hillary Clinton is married to Bill Clinton -- she was his defender during the whole Lewinsky scandal.

You can bury your head in the sand and pretend like the Repuglicans and others won't bring this whole sordid affair up if Hillary gets the nomination -- but it is going to be at least a side issue in 2016.

If you can't deal with it here, then the general election is going to be a very miserable time for you.

[Autumn]

23. You know what. This was asked at a campaign event on Thursday that's what republicans do.

Get used to it, your going to hear a lot about Bill's history. We don't need to watch what we say we are Democrats and capable of discussion.

[jeff47]

53. How DARE the OP accurately state what happened today!!!!!

[SDJay]

19. Sadly...

This is a preview of next fall. Wait until some right-wing turd asks Hillary a question like this during a GE debate. You know it'll happen. And then Trump will pile on his own special brand of misogyny. Ugh.

[Segami]

22. You can see the stampede dust cloud coming over the horizon....

And they're comin' to play for keeps...

[SDJay]

28. ALL the bullcrap...

will be dragged out of mothballs. Whitewater, Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers, Vince Foster... every right-wing whackadoo has been waiting for nearly a generation to consume the anti-Clinton, tin-foil hat pablum that Fux, OxyContin Boy, Freaking Hannity and the whole cabal of America-haters will be trotting out ad freaking nauseum. And that doesn't even include the "scandals" from her time as SoS.

Lotsa money to be made by these scum if/when Hillary is the nominee. Most of them are still enraged that they not only failed to take down her husband, but that their fake scandals actually backfired.

If anyone thought 2008 was ugly, wait until 2016 gets rolling.

[Segami]

33. Everyone keeps mentioning 2008, but....

the reTHUGS NEVER unleashed their ready-to-serve oppo-research on Hillary because the unexpected happened.......Barack Obama beat Hillary hands down!

What they didn't unleash on Hillary back in 2008, will be airdropped on her come 2016. You can also take to the bank that we will lose the presidency if we move forward and elect Hillary as our nominee.

[SDJay]

36. True. In a way it was almost humorous...

They were all set to unload all of their artillery on Hillary in 2008, but then... what's this?

A BLACK GUY?!?!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-BOY! We never expected this!

Watching the clown car operators fumble with the racism that was already near the surface and try to keep a lid on it was a hoot.

They lost their damn minds. Then they acted on it and decided to add the Klondike Khardashian to the ticket.

[jeff47]

56. Don't worry, I'm sure they've got plenty of new things saved up.

There's lots around the foundation that looks unsavory. Won't be hard for the Republicans to turn several of them into a "scandal".

[Juicy_Bellows]

75. You got that right, this is Little League.

If she wins the primary, Charlie Sheen will show up and start giving her the heater.

[Historic NY]

26. She's been through this shit storm before but I see some delight in it....

[SDJay]

30. Not from me.

I'm leaning Sanders right now, but I'd vote for my TV remote before I'd vote for anyone the Repub-libans/Teahadists spit out onto the public for the GE. That's the problem for me - if enough of this BS sticks in the craws of enough lazy dullards who manage to get out to vote in purple states, it could be a big problem.

I hope these assholes see it explode in their faces just as it did last time. Doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, though - it will.

[R B Garr]

42. OMG, tRump has 3 wives one of which he

he snuck on a skiing trip on the side when she was his mistress rght under his first wife's nose. Etc., baggage galore. I know what you mean about the mysogyny, though.

The Clinton hunts never amounted to anything years ago and won't now. Waste of time.

[SDJay]

45. I know and you're right about Dump's 'baggage'

And Newt was one of the guys leading the charge against President Clinton over the Lewinsky fake scandal. And we all know how 'virtuous' he was/is. Republiscum don't need to be honest - their base doesn't care and their bloviating somehow seems to keep the squishy middle from caring about it. Only Ds are held to a basic standard of decency, likely due to the fact that (a) D candidates are generally decent people and (b) the feces-flingers on the R side scream to the mountaintops smearing every D they can find. You know, like real patriots!

It could come out that T-Dump freaking bought his wife in Europe and it STILL wouldn't stick to him. It's mind boggling but true.

[Robbins]

20. well

There are serious questions if any really was forced by Clinton.

Broaddrick charges has been questioned.

Tripp herself cast doudt on Willey

as for Jones her own sister once cast doudt on her claims.

If a woman claims she had affair with Bill Clinton i would believe them.it's when they claim they were forced that the BS
detector goes off for me.

It certainly isn't because i love the clintons i say this.I don't like it when she tries to use his affairs to play victim.

[Major Nikon]

25. Results...

On Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:14 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hillary Clinton ASKED About Paula Jones
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251871297

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Paula Jones? I am ashamed for this poster and anyone who is a Bernie Sanders supporter. To sink to the lowest level of right wing attacks against Hillary is just shameful beyond all reason

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:27 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Post is just reporting what happened. I agree that it is a sleazy question, but I think it is appropriate to discuss in an adult manner on a political discussion forum. Leave it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a CNN story, FFS. I wonder if it ever occurred to the alerter that "right wing attack" might be just a wee bit melodramatic, even for the HRC fanbase.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Let the post stay and allow everyone to judge the person posting it.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Just trash the thread. This shit's on the internet and lots of us have long memories anyway. Sexcapades of public figures do not affect my life. I just don't care.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is a "right wing" attack? If so, why are you bringing up a "Bernie Sanders supporter." Are you trying to tar Sanders supporters with a "right wing" brush?

These are issues that are likely to be used against Hillary by right wing extremists; perhaps, her advisers might help her NOW to prepare a rebuttal.

[Segami]

41. Thanks...

much appreciated!......

[Truprogressive85]

32. To HC supporters this the baggage that will be brought back up if she is the nominee

I could careless about Bill Clinton or his lack of self control,but
Broaddrick's events sound very Bill Cosbyeque without the drugs

[JoePhilly]

137. We should always blame the wife for her husband cheating on her.

No war on women there.

[grasswire]

34. I suspect this was innoculation

...with a plant asking the question.

[Segami]

35. Do you mean...

get it out now and deal with it rather than later?

[grasswire]

37. yes

a good rule of politics for those who have something to be embarrassed about.

[Segami]

39. Absolutely....The Clinton machine

would definitely entertain this option within their pie-chart strategy if their polling dictates......

[grasswire]

40. she's not above playing the "wronged wife" either...

.....if that suits her at any time.

[pa28]

92. I think you are exactly right.

They know it's going to be an issue during the GE if she's nominated. Her response sounded canned but also very good . . . as long as you don't think about it too much.

[Punkingal]

43. i am not a supporter of Hillary,

But it wasn't her fault he cheated on her and I think she has been humiliated enough with this crap. It is not relevant to me and it still is no ones business. Obviously they worked through it and that's enough for me to know on this subject.

[rurallib]

58. at least one person makes sense on this thread

thank you.

[Punkingal]

61. You are welcome.

[Segami]

60. The OP is not about

whether Bill cheated on Hillary or not.......


its about Hillary's stated position on sexual assault/sexual harassment.....

September 2015:

"...I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault,” Clinton said. “Don’t let anyone silence your voice. You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed, and we are with you as you go forward...."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-responds-29-point-drop-support-women/story?id=33756547

[Punkingal]

73. I know, and I am not criticizing you for posting the op..

I was referring to the people who drag that stuff up. I just personally don't want to hear about it. Bill was an idiot and beyond, but I think Hillary was a victim in this instance. And I am sure she doesn't believe he ever assaulted anyone. I have a hard time believing that myself....I have a friend in Arkansas who knew them and said women were always all over him at functions she attended.

Anyway, I love all your threads!

[shenmue]

95. Thank you!

[Beacool]

44. Wow, you would stoop to anything to trash Hillary.

That's even low for a RW site.

Unbelievable what is allowed in a so called Democratic site.

This place has jumped the shark.

[Segami]

46. Your comment ...

is a good example of 'stooping to anything'........

[Beacool]

48. YOUR OP is disgusting and shouldn't be allowed on any Democratic site.

Don't worry though, I abhor censorship and have never alerted on anyone. Do you think that Sanders would approve of most of your posts? This is nothing but hitting below the belt and an embarrassment on a Democratic board.

If anything, your constant low brow posts make Hillary supporters harden their support and even makes some of those sitting on the fence waver toward supporting her. It certainly does not help Sanders.

[Segami]

49. If DU applied your reasoning....

this site would become nothing more than a rubber-stamp, vinyl pom-pom Hillary charade. Hillary opened up and invited this line of questioning from her September 2015 statement......maybe you should take up your nonsensical commentary with her.....she might enlighten you!

[still_one]

62. This place has become a cesspool. This is the kind of garbage that right wing sites regularly spew

You are right, this trash does not help Sanders, and for those who are on the fence, they are pushing them away.

From my observation, some of those on DU don't care. They have said as much. They don't care if any Clinton supporters supports their candidate or not. That attitude will not go far for them in the general election if Sanders wins the nomination

[jonno99]

80. Jees, all the OP did was report the news. HRC was simply asked and then answered a question. How is

the OP's report of this akin to a cesspool?

If the "DU kitchen" is too hot for you, perhaps you'd be more comfortable elsewhere.

Cause it aint gonna get no cooler in here...

[still_one]

89. Naw, this OP wasn't doing this to "report the news". It was being done for flame-bait

This is not the first rodeo where this has been done.

I'm not going anywhere. I wonder how many will be here after the Democratic nominee is selected

[jeff47]

57. How DARE the OP accurately describe what happened!!!!!

To pretend the Republicans won't easily generate several new "scandals" in the GE is insane.

[OilemFirchen]

50. And it REARS its mighty head!

[Mike Nelson]

52. This topic always seems to make Hillary...

...stronger. The 29 point drop will be reversed... is my guess.

[Douglas Carpenter]

59. if it is fair to point out things the Republicans might attack Bernie on - it is fair to point out

things Republicans might attack Hillary on.

[hrmjustin]

64. Your desperation is showing.

[Segami]

68. Another empty distraction...

never comment on the post..........just personal attacks.

The cave meetings must be burning the midnight oil.

[hrmjustin]

69. If you posted something worth talking about I would.

And I don't attend cave meetings.


Alas I got a hide upthread so we can't continue the snark.

[Segami]

70. I imagine...

comprehensive reading is not your strong suit.

Watch out for the stalactites....

[MaggieD]

66. Great response - she nailed it

[Jarqui]

72. 'victims of sexual abuse "should be believed" until evidence disproves their allegations.'

I don't agree with that.

There was a time when folks did that. My father rented a room with the warden of a penitentiary while he was going to college. It was a place for hard criminals. The warden told him 1/3 of the men in there for rape were innocent. The women pointed the finger and the juries believed them. This was long before DNA, CSIs, etc. Time have changed but I never forgot it.

I would rephrase it to:

testimony of victims of sexual abuse should be considered as possible to be true until evidence disproves their allegations
and
testimony of the accused should be considered as possible to be true until evidence disproves their alibi.

That's very fair and without prejudice to either party. You have to bear in mind - sometimes the accused is innocent and the law says we must presume them innocent until they're proven guilty - and for good reason. Law enforcement lets evidence and legal reason decide if they've got a case they can prosecute.

So no, I do not agree with Hillary. As a lawyer, she should know better.

Very roughly, that's what happened with Bill's accusers. They made an allegation and most couldn't prove a lot of it. In Monica's case, the stained blue dress was the evidence that disproved Bill's claims. It's not always fair and it can be frustrating because you can't always prove something that really did happen (like a rape). But the scales of justice are supposed to keep innocent people out of prison too. Unfortunately, the legal system cannot guarantee a perfect result every time. If one goes at it objectively with both claims of the accuser and the accused, striving to let evidence decide the issue, I think that's the proper and sensible legal path.

[bigwillq]

76. Good question. Good answer. (nt)

[brooklynite]

77. I assume this is intended to be a reason not to support Clinton...

Would the OP care to explain why?

[Live and Learn]

85. You really don't get it? It shows her blatant hypocrisy.

She outright called Bill's accusers liars at the time.

[baldguy]

93. And it's not like using lies from the VRWC to support a progressive candidate.

That's not hypocritical at all.

[Live and Learn]

96. ABC news and CNN are part of the VRWC now?

We all witnessed Clinton call the women liars on national television. How is the OP a lie?

[baldguy]

105. Are the Sanders-nista really ready to rehash **ALL** of the Clinton "scandals"?

Richard Mellon Scaife is dead. You people can't resurrect the Arkansas Project.

[Live and Learn]

107. Reduced to calling us names now?

Pathetic.

[baldguy]

108. I thought it was rather clever, actually.

But it's nowhere near as pathetic as "progressives" repeatedly insisting that the RW witch hunts of the '90s had any point - other than to destroy the progressive movement and dismantle any public policies that actually help people.

[Live and Learn]

109. I haven't seen any of that. Are you claiming you aren't progressive? nt

[baldguy]

110. Using RW lying points to attack real liberal Democrats isn't progressive.

Especially stale, old lying points which have been repeatedly debunked.

[Live and Learn]

111. I didn't accuse you of doing that. Have you been?

[baldguy]

113. No, you have. Starting at #85.

Unless the Rovian in you is trying to claim that calling Hillary a hypocrite isn't an attack.

Which it is.

[Live and Learn]

114. That is not Rovian, that is a fact!

Hillary has shown she is a hypocrite in a myriad of ways. No need to get so defensive, most politicians are. That is why Bernie is so refreshing!

[baldguy]

115. Aaaaand .... there you go, proving my point.

Bill Clinton's accusers were liars who were paid to lie. It's not hypocritical for Hillary to make a statement of the well-known obvious.

The very reason Bernie "is so refreshing!" is precisely BECAUSE he doesn't deal with this same old political bullshit which has been used to attack every Democrat and every liberal & progressive idea to come down the road in the last 35 years. And which you're using to attack another Democrat!

If Bernie could see what is done in his name & in support of his candidacy on this board he'd have a stroke.

[Live and Learn]

117. Oh really, Bill never did any of the things he was accused of by women?

I have a bridge over a swamp to sell you.

[baldguy]

118. I wouldn't hold my breath for Bernie's "Bill Clinton Is A Rapist!" ad campaign.

But, like ... you're more than welcome.

[Live and Learn]

119. Nobody here called him a rapist, did they? nt

[baldguy]

120. YES THEY DID, YOU MORON!!!

That was the whole point of setting up Hillary with that embarrassing question!


You see everyone else? THIS! This is why Republicans can win elections!

[Live and Learn]

121. Yikes, are you trying to get a hide?

I think you should delete that post quickly. And by the way, that is not a politically correct term to use.

[baldguy]

122. If you say Hilliary is a hypocrite, the you're saying Bill is a rapist.

And you can always tell when an argument is bankrupt when it's advocate tries to hide any counter-argument.

[Live and Learn]

123. That is not true. I said she is a hypocrite because she says women should always be believed first

and yet she consistently defended Bill by calling the women liars without any investigation. I didn't even say she was wrong to call them liars. I just said she is a hypocrite for claiming now to always support women on this issue.

And your post is still against TOS.

[baldguy]

124. You're pushing the vicious, unfounded RW lie that Bill Clinton is a rapist.

And now you're trying to pretend you didn't.

Very Rovian. Very un-Sandersian.

[Live and Learn]

126. And you are wrong again. Are you purposefully misstating what I have said?

Now, that, is Rovian.

[baldguy]

127. You just dug yourself into a hole, and now can't find a way out.

So now you're trying to blame everyone but yourself.

At this point, as an adult, you should apologize, admit that you're wrong, and slink away.

[Live and Learn]

128. No, you are purposefully fabricating. Very Rovian of you.

And you should learn to play by the rules.

[baldguy]

129. No slinking away I see. Next you'll be trumpeting the notion that Hillary killed Vince Foster.

good luck with that.

[Live and Learn]

130. No, I won't but I am sure you will say I did anyway.

Guess whose posts will never get any credence from me?

[OilemFirchen]

133. There's something wrong with violating the TOS?

Huh.

Your signature line includes homages to two posters who've been PPR'd for doing just that.

Some nerve, eh?

[Live and Learn]

134. You are wrong too. nt

[OilemFirchen]

135. About what? (n/t)

[Starry Messenger]

78. Sounds like she sailed through with flying colors.

[seabeyond]

83. Wow. We on Du have certainly jumped into the mud with the RW, haven't we?

[still_one]

91. Just the typical flame baiting BS that is prevelent on DU. It will be interesting to see who

remains after the Democratic nominee is selected.

[blue neen]

90. Wow.

This OP was unnecessary dirty politics.

You can do better.

[reddread]

94. tip of the iceberg

way too many familiar names from the past would resurface, if she werent the media's choice she would face a real mudbath.
the Republicans and broadcasters that truly oppose her would be reciting the litany, if they cared about how women are treated.
she's pretty safe, but not sound.

[olddots]

97. we can only interpret history

even our own history is open to interpretation .Our lives are our baggage ,if you are rich and powerful you can afford to bring extra baggage .

[AtomicKitten]

99. The Clinton baggage has only begun to bark.

[jamzrockz]

100. Hillary should change

her campaign logo to a pander that changes colors when you twist the image. The woman who defended a pedophile she knew at the time was guilty of child rape is not pretending to be a champion for women. The sad part is that a lot of people are buying it.

Says a lot of about the voters that Trump and Hillary are the leading candidates for the 2 major parties. And people wonder why I don't care about voting.

[moobu2]

101. Yeah, lets hold the wives responsible for their husbands alleged behaviour.

I thought she handled the tacky question beautifully and I bet she gets a bump in the polls if people continue to try to make this an issue.

Please proceed.

[MrWendel]

102. Who would have thought...

[CoffeeCat]

104. I do not support Hillary Clinton AT ALL...

...but this question to her was rude, crass and just plain shitty.

Bringing up Bill's crimes and sexual escapades, when Hillary is making a statement about supporting rape victims--is disgusting.

There are plenty of tough questions that Hillary Clinton should be asked, but this is not one of them.

[OilemFirchen]

112. Bill's "crimes"?

Do tell.

[baldguy]

116. Exactly

[CoffeeCat]

125. Alleged crimes?

Is that better, counselor?

[OilemFirchen]

132. Of course that's better.

Why would you even think to ask?

[sadoldgirl]

106. I think that the campaign was testing the waters

for future possible attacks. They want to see the reaction
to her answers.

[riversedge]

136. But, it seems the audiance liked Hillary's reponse -the audiance applauded...

I think the question was vile and inappropriate.

This is a NYPost website and they gave the audience response--which tells me many in the audience supported Hillary.


https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2 ... 441&crop=1

By Marisa Schultz

December 3, 2015 | 7:50pm

Voter asks Hillary about rape claims against Bill


WASHINGTON — A woman at a Hillary Clinton campaign event in New Hampshire on Thursday dared to ask the Democratic presidential candidate if she believed the charges made by women who say her husband raped or harassed them.

“You say that all rape victims should be believed,” the audience member said at the Manchester event, which was focused on opportunities for women.


“But would you say that about Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, and/or Paula Jones — should we believe them as well?”

....................

Hillary Clinton responded by defending her husband.

“Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence,” she said, before moving on.

The audience applauded the former secretary of state...............

[brush]

131. Who did Hillary Clinton ask about Paula Jones?

And did she get an answer?

(Poster, you might want to edit that title)