2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Releases 'Follow the Money' GIF Ad. BOOM.
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djean111
(14,255 posts)smith_70
(28 posts)The problem is there are fake websites claiming to be for some one and e they just collect money. That happened to Bernie already. like phony Nigerian emails that say you won a million$. May be donate directly to his office. Some one said it is hypocritical that he is asking for money but Bernie deals with a realistic world. That is why we need him.
hootinholler
(26,451 posts)If you use that link the total from DU supporters is updated.
ActBlue is what Bernie's campaign uses for donations.
Renew Deal
(85,151 posts)Seems hypocritical to create such an ad and keep the money.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)tecelote
(5,156 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)ejbr
(5,892 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)... the average joes that aren't in the upper echelon of these companies and their small contributions make up the smaller stack? Still pretty significant difference.
One candidate can't be bought. One solidly has been.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)that would mean DU's paid for 2 Bernies! Excellent!
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Really reaching here.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)by the billionaires is a good thing. Seems like only yesterday they were saying how Citizens United was bad for our Democracy.
Winning at all costs isn't a Democratic Principle. Selling one's soul to follow the big money isn't either.
The 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty need a progressive in the WH and not someone that is beholden to the billionaires that brought us where we are today.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Oh, and Corrupt the Record says that it's all OK.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)goodness.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Seems for some that is all that matters. Cuz glass ceiling.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)excellent point!!:
Chef Eric
(1,024 posts)That $17K comes from donations from individuals. Sanders has not criticized the tradition of receiving donations from individuals.
However, BOTH candidates have criticized the relatively new custom of receiving money from Super PACs, and only ONE of them has been practicing what he preaches.
In fact, Clinton has two Super PACs working directly for her campaign (Ready PAC and Priorities USA Action). Combined, they have raised over $20,000,000. Much of that $20,000,000 has come from corporations.
Sanders doesn't have any Super PACs working under his direction. Not one. And the one Super PAC that has been supporting him WITHOUT his direction is funded by a nurses' union. Are you able to see the difference here? One candidate is beholden to corporations, and the other is beholden to people.
Sources:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000019
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000528
By the way, if you are truly concerned about hypocrisy, then I encourage you to read this article from the Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-hypocrisy/2015/05/19/f8a7b194-fe48-11e4-8b6c-0dcce21e223d_story.html
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Stomping your way thru Hillary's puddles of truth. You should be ASHAMED of yourself........ NOT!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Or are you so narrow minded that the thought of those people actually existing is not something that would ever enter your awareness?
Is that a real sanctioned Bernie campaign ad? Or is it something someone came up with?
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)He's one of the few with the nads to tell the truth, so maybe it's real.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:10 PM - Edit history (1)

George II
(67,782 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Look at the "specificity" of the so-called source of data. If it was true, the person who put it together would have been more specific about that.
Familiarize yourself with the Federal (and State) Campaign Finance laws and it will become evident either how untrue or how intentionally misleading the numbers in that graphic are.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)then I wholeheartedly agree with you. Is that what you meant?
Nunzie Arquila
(1 post)"If it was true, the person who put it together would have been more specific about that."
Yet you wont cite any specifics. Interesting.
The graphic deals with speaking fees, and only mentions campaign finance briefly.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Sending him another small check today.
GO BERNIE!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Terrific.
I hope the Sanders campaign turns it into a tv ad (and I hope they run it a lot in Iowa!)
Great job Sanders campaign!
I knew that I loved Bernie's politics and passion for progressive ideals, but I wasn't sure what kind of campaigner he would be.
He's proving to be a very astute and wise campaigner. There's definitely an art to it, and he is doing well!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Interesting.
Segami
(14,923 posts)do you believe they represent the electorate's interests?
Which one do they represent?
Laser102
(816 posts)ibegurpard
(17,081 posts)With the HRC campaign and bring it up. Think maybe they'll tell us all to "cut it out?"
cui bono
(19,926 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)was making headlines. Would have made more traction.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Only in Hillary's world are facts negative.
beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)Coincidence?
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)If the campaign ads from the other team's PAC are to be believed, the cranky old socialist who will never get anything done, the one with the racist and sexist supporters is unelectable, and polls say so too, except when they don't and then they can be ignored, and Saint Hillary of Walmart is going to win even without Millennial voters, and she can weather any criticism because "9/11 a noun a verb and a gender". Right?
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)Its stating fact my friend
MattSh
(3,714 posts)It's neither positive or negative. It is what it is.
George II
(67,782 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Yet, Hillary's gets approval from Krugman.
Gloria
(17,663 posts)Big, vague talk but short on specifics. Appealing to the gut like Trump....
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)WRAP yourself in that flag, girl!
Gloria
(17,663 posts)a helluva lot of financial workers died that day....and yes, they were HER constituents...
Shove it.
HRC is using union banks for her campaign....if you can't differentiate between that and what went on after 911, that's just too bad...
I guess I could scream alert for you ridiculous "wrap myself in the flag" comment you made, but I'm not a sissy like some Bernie supporters are....
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I guess that's why you support the candidate who used 9/11 as an excuse to start a war with Iraq. I know people who died in that war.
So listen up, you don't own that tragedy any more than Hillary does, and if you cared so damned much you would resent her exploiting it for political gain as much as I do.
It wasn't acceptable when Giuliani and Bush did it and it sure the fuck isn't acceptable now that Trump and Hillary are doing it.
One candidate is more like Trump alright, and it sure the hell isn't Bernie.
Or haven't you been paying attention?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)R B Garr
(17,984 posts)It's tiresome to see that comment about 9/11 from the debate misrepresented so much. They are just trying to take 9/11 off the table to talk about since Hillary WAS there and Bernie can't compete with that so they want to take it away from Hillary with phony outrage. It's shameful.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Her 9-11 comment in the debate was deflection.
If it had happened in Utica or Albany one would expect her to have the same response and do just as much. The fact that it occurred on Wall St. has NOTHING to do with the Clintons' long and lucrative association with banksters.
She was using 9-11 aas a deflection. Period.
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)already answered completely about donor influence from Wall Street. It was during a rambling follow-up attack probe from Bernie where he brought up donations from HER ENTIRE CAREER that she went back there, too. 9/11 did occur months after her Senate career started.
The exchange is at the 1:01 to 1:03 mark in the debate video. I don't know how to cut paste or post videos from my phone, but it's there.
Basically if Bernie can talk about her entire career, why can't she. Of course she can, especially after his cheap shot attack just for applause lines.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Sure she deserves praise for doing her job as a Senator well during the aftermath of 9-11 and all the support she provided for the PEOPLE of New York, including workers in the financial industry, as well as janitors, cab drivers and everyone else who lived and/or worked in the vicinity.
But that was NOT the issue being discussed at the time, and is a totally separate issue from the ongoing relationship she has had with Big Money.
R B Garr
(17,984 posts)after she had already completely answered, so she checked him back. His whole disjointed probe was for applause at her expense and she wasn't having it. He or his campaign had already said he was going to attack her because he supposedly let her off about the emails in the prior debate. His questioning was about her ENTIRE career. She can talk about her entire career, especially if he does.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They are both friends of T-Rump and have taken his filthy money.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Sanders = Trump? That is stupidly laughable.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)How about getting informed before spewing.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/reforming-wall-street/
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)swilton
(5,069 posts)Fabulous! Bernie cannot be bought --screw Wall Street!
smith_70
(28 posts)and How is he attacking anybody?.. as for any speaking fees are OK in my mind. Nobody is forced to pay it. But the insurance companies are out of control. No one else will have the balls to go for universal health care.
Historic NY
(40,037 posts)Because its not getting much traction.
ibegurpard
(17,081 posts)Guess we'll have to spread it around.
Historic NY
(40,037 posts)its also presupposes that people sign on to his facebook.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...I will be spreading it around to. You see, I simply saved the image to my hard drive and now I'm going to post it everywhere I possibly can, starting with several Twitter hashtags. It will be passed on from there.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Kind of like what happened here, except it will also get circulated on Facebook and tumblr and Twitter and...
That's how social media works.
Historic NY
(40,037 posts)and Bernie will still be the 30% King.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)It's such a non-issue, I guess it makes no difference who is backed by Big Corrupt money in eitehr party., Let's just take the whole issue off the table in the General election too.
Historic NY
(40,037 posts)Gloria
(17,663 posts)ballsy Dem Congress to reverse this. Which means we have to this money now to win the general election because that is REALITY!
So for once, use brains not the emotions which are played to sucker you in with platitudes...
Bread and Circus
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cui bono
(19,926 posts).
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)I remember my next door neighbors had a big Dean sign in their front window or in their front planter box. I was really busy with work and wasn't keeping up with politics much then. I never got to know Dean much until it was pretty much too late.
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WillyT
(72,631 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)FEELING THAT BERN!!!
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Jarqui
(10,909 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)And, I really like gifs...
Kick!
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Send a bit of money to the Bernie campaign each month...will increase the amount as I can...but I depend on SS...
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)That's GOOD! Succinct and to the point! FUNNY TOO!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Uncle Joe
(65,134 posts)Thanks for the thread, Segami.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)K&R
blackspade
(10,056 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)From JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, Wells Fargo, Citi Group, and GOLDMAN SACHS??? Doesn't that number seem a little bit high considering this is Bernie we're talking about?
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I like it!!
merrily
(45,251 posts)funding Hillary's PACs that smear Bernie and rail against Citizens United!
madokie
(51,076 posts)This is how you win elections. Nothing wrong with pointing out truths about your competitor. Hillary damn sure does when she gets a chance. Trouble is Bernie hasn't given them much to work with because he's a good guy doing a good job of representing his constituents, Hillary on the other hand has given Bernie all the ammo he needs because she panders to the rich. Hillary wants to be Rich and she wants to be President and will do anything necessary to get either one, preferably both.
We should treat her as we should the people who really really want to be a cop. By not letting them be one. People who really want to be cops are the ones who are for the most part the bad apples we hear so much about, same with politicians.
The video of her laughing her ass off about war that is floating around DU right now should be enough to make anyone here's stomach churn. After viewing that video I no longer like her at all. Of course I'm a person who does know what war is so maybe thats why I feel as I do but irregardless war is an admission of failure. A failure to find peace, peacefully. As Bernie says it should be as a very last resort, not as a bargaining chip.