2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumConservatives off TV in Michigan and Pennsylvania
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) Mitt Romney's allies have pulled their advertising from Pennsylvania and Michigan while redoubling efforts in other battleground states. The move indicates that at least for now, efforts by outside groups to help Romney compete in more states have stalled.
The pro-Romney groups American Crossroads and Americans for Prosperity are pouring nearly $13 million into advertising in key states, indicating they remain eager to lend considerable financial muscle to Romney in states viewed as truly competitive.
There are no presidential campaign ads of any kind currently airing in Pennsylvania and Michigan, according to information provided by media trackers to The Associated Press. While the Romney campaign has spent almost no money on advertising in either state, conservative groups have spent $20 million on ads for him in Pennsylvania and have spent $8 million on ads in Michigan.
Independent groups have been helping Romney to stay competitive with Obama on the air as the former Massachusetts governor regroups to raise money for the final weeks before the campaign. Romney's campaign coffers were severely depleted after a bruising primary fight, forcing a greater reliance on these conservative super PACs and other groups to get their message out.
http://news.yahoo.com/conservatives-off-tv-michigan-pennsylvania-170134916--election.html
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)If Romney ends the campaign with money in the bank to run again the entire Republican Party will turn on him like nothing we have seen.
Mopar151
(10,348 posts)How much is Bain Capital gonna skim off the campaign in management fees?
auburngrad82
(5,029 posts)I'm seeing very few Rmoney ads but plenty of Congressional ads right now. I'm assuming the GOP is worried that Rmoney could take the House down with him in November.
queenjane
(296 posts)I just noticed last night that there weren't as many. For about a month, it was relentless. Almost every single commercial on network TV was an anti-Obama ad, nastier & nastier. Now I'm actually seeing car commercials again. Never thought I'd be so happy about that.
dhill926
(16,953 posts)Florida and Ohio? Where the R's are trying to put the fix in.....
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)In all likelihood, Obama only needs one of the three.
Marie Marie
(11,309 posts)Mopar151
(10,348 posts)And the ads are dreadful...... Whoever the woman is that does their "fearful" voice-overs needs to be re-medicated.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)Why?
It's pretty clearly Obama (80% in the Silver model).
And even if it isn't what will the 4 EVs do for them? No offense intended.
And finally, aren't some of the media buys for NH pretty expensive BOS market buys?
Mopar151
(10,348 posts)Most of the ads I've seen are on WMUR (ABC), our only major league TV station. Rove and the boys dump some serious loot into our local races, as well - and our NH House Speaker, "Bully" O'Brien, is f'n owned and operated by ALEC.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)Obama is up to around 241 EVs with 16 more (WI+NV) looking very secure. And with Goode on the ballot in VA that pretty much seals up another 13 for the POTUS.
Doing the Arithmetic that's 270 EVs. So how on earth can rMoney win? I don't see a path to victory for the dark side.
Grown2Hate
(2,216 posts)270-270 tie. But I see your point... Rmoney would have to RUN the TABLE everywhere else, and I can't see that happening. NOW we need to focus on the House and Senate!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I think there are 538 total EC votes available. So the tie is at 269.
You can experiment here ...
http://www.270towin.com/
Grown2Hate
(2,216 posts)correct. I was thinking 269-269. Muh bad.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Michigan's over, too. As somebody said upthread, when McCain pulled out of Michigan in OCTOBER of 08, it was a huge deal (Palin's people made some noises about being upset over it). Romney's ditching Michigan (his home state, mind you) in September. Romney's main difficulty this week is that Ohio looks to be going the way of Pennsylvania and Michigan, and just needs a tip. Its dynamics are a mix of the two, with a massive auto industry workforce mirroring Michigan, and infrastructure and agriculture dynamics mirroring PA. Obama has done the state well in all these areas.
And then what for Mitt? He thinks he's going to pile up New Hampshires and Iowas to make up for Ohio?
The Big Money is going to start hedging on the top ticket race real soon, if they haven't already. That means cash influxes to the Obama coffers and retreat from Mittens. You'll also see a big focus on down ticket starting from the Dems. I think we already got a taste of this in Clinton's speech.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)really will take their billions to Switzerland and leave us the fuck alone.
I can dream, can't I?
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Or just Yahoo?
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)they ought to be. They can't come back there. Even voter suppression won't help in PA.
They have a shot at FL, but that won't be enough. They absolutely need to win 4 out of 5 of FL, OH, VA, NV and IA and it just ain't there. And they probably have to tip WI and maybe NH even at that.
But with Constitution Party candidate Goode on the ballot in VA, OBAMA has like an 8 point lead in the polling.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Listening to John King on CNN tonight, he claims the race is very close.
I wonder if he will have to change his predictions in the days ahead.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Ballot.
NOTA will give Ron Paul Suporters a ballot option and killed Romney's chances there.
an associated press story. So many newspapers will probably pick it up.
You can try googling the first sentence to see how many have picked it up already.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)With recent polls showing Obama over 50% and up by 7% in Michigan, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the state conceded. With the auto industry loan success, it was always going to be a tough slog for Romney. The money exodus is just acknowledging that it will be impossible.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Where are they putting their money? Nova Scotia?
demosincebirth
(12,826 posts)Setsuna1972
(332 posts)Makes me want to
each time I see them...but I'll take that as a good sign, with the same ads now being pulled from MI and PA
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)they need to save Texas for Rmoney. Tell them the only way they win is if they put their money in Texas to help Rmoney. All of it.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)ads. And a few other states, too.