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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:25 PM Dec 2015

Elizabeth Warren Not Ready To Endorse A Presidential Candidate But Says Sanders TALKS FROM THE HEART





U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren said she’s in no rush to endorse a 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, even if it makes her the only female senator in her party not to back Hillary Clinton. “It’s just not time for me to do that yet,” Warren said last night during a Main Street holiday lighting ceremony in Melrose. Warren was glaringly absent at a Clinton fundraiser earlier this week in which 13 of the 14 Democratic women of the U.S. Senate backed the former U.S. secretary of state.

Warren’s endorsement — representing the progressive base of the party that Clinton has feverishly been courting — could be a game-changer in the showdown between Clinton and Vermont U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders. Asked when she thinks she might make an endorsement of any candidate, Warren was noncommittal: “I don’t know.” But she rejected the idea that Sanders is losing popularity, as Clinton holds on to a large lead in the national polls.

“Bernie is doing what Bernie always does — he’s out there talking from the heart, raising the issues that he’s raised for decades now,” said Warren. “That’s just who he is.”



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http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2015/12/elizabeth_warren_not_ready_to_endorse_a_presidential_candidate
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Elizabeth Warren Not Ready To Endorse A Presidential Candidate But Says Sanders TALKS FROM THE HEART (Original Post) Segami Dec 2015 OP
Eventually, Elizabeth Warren will endorse Hillary though moobu2 Dec 2015 #1
Prove it... Segami Dec 2015 #2
"It’s just not time for me to do that yet," brooklynite Dec 2015 #24
Elizabeth Warren's position vs. Hillary Clinton Segami Dec 2015 #25
Sure, if she wins the nomination, an endorsement is certain. Same for Sanders. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #6
Why would EW wait if she thought Bernie was a better candidate and all? moobu2 Dec 2015 #22
You are free to speculate. I won't proffer an opinion, my only role was to point out JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #23
If she was going to endorse Bernie Sanders moobu2 Dec 2015 #30
You don't get it? I don't give a shit about your supposed reasons for thinking what you do JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #31
But she would have endorsed Bernie Sanders if she thought he <was> the best candidate moobu2 Dec 2015 #33
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Not sure why you keep replying to me though. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #34
You should self-delete your post. I won't alert it, but it's rude. reformist2 Dec 2015 #8
Since their political views are so much alike, I'd call it very reasonable to think Cal33 Dec 2015 #10
The fact that she hasn't endorsed Bernie should be troublesome. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #17
I don't think so at all Jarqui Dec 2015 #27
Thank You For Insulting This Citizen And Voter - Now Deciding To Alert On Your Post cantbeserious Dec 2015 #26
Post the results... SidDithers Dec 2015 #37
Taunts - So Fitting - For The HRC Crowd cantbeserious Dec 2015 #40
The taunt was posting your intention to alert... SidDithers Dec 2015 #41
She will MFrohike Dec 2015 #36
She won't endorse anyone until the results are obvious or more likely until a nominee is choosen still_one Dec 2015 #3
Liz is using her head. LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #4
I can't see Elizabeth endorsing Hillary. They have too many opposites -- Wall Street, Cal33 Dec 2015 #11
Would you say Sherrod Brown's positions are more in line with Bernie's or Hillary's? LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #21
Me either Jarqui Dec 2015 #28
She was happy to have the Clintons support for her Senate campaign and... Walk away Dec 2015 #43
Just remember she encouraged Hillary to run bigdarryl Dec 2015 #5
We all make mistakes n/t MissDeeds Dec 2015 #7
Nothing more.. Segami Dec 2015 #9
That was some time ago. Nobody thought that Bernie would be running. Bernie, himself Cal33 Dec 2015 #12
She signed a letter just after entering the Senate Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #48
"that's just who he is"! Wouldn't a Sanders/Warren ticket be the "most"? Duval Dec 2015 #13
Did Reagan talk from the heart too? Was this his appeal when she voted for him and Bush 1? Metric System Dec 2015 #14
Yep...She's not kowtowing to Clinton so toss her under that bus Armstead Dec 2015 #18
We all know who she WANTS to endorse. But she is a politician now, so... ;) reformist2 Dec 2015 #15
Why do we care? Her endorsement doesn't hold that much weight. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #16
But..but the article says Warren's endorsement would be a "game changer". oasis Dec 2015 #42
I greatly respect her decision to not endorse right now. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #19
I remember when Elizabeth said Hillary "was terriffic". bvar22 Dec 2015 #20
I remember when she didn't think so ... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #32
So why isn't EW endorsing Sanders? Why is it not time for her to do that yet? lunamagica Dec 2015 #29
The problem is that if EW endorses Bernie, bvar22 Dec 2015 #44
So, she is certain (as you seem to be) that Hillary will win both the nomination and the GE. eom lunamagica Dec 2015 #47
Warren SNUBS Sanders, declines to endorse him for President...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #35
Thanks EW for taking a bold stance as the only female Senator to not attend Hillary's endorsement... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #38
That would be TWICE EW snubbed Hillary's all-women invite Segami Dec 2015 #45
Interesting that if she and Bernie are so much in tune with the issues that she has difficulty book_worm Dec 2015 #39
If John Lewis is endorsing you workinclasszero Dec 2015 #46

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
1. Eventually, Elizabeth Warren will endorse Hillary though
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:27 PM
Dec 2015

Anybody that doesn't think that is delusional.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
2. Prove it...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:33 PM
Dec 2015

...instead of making more David Brock wild-eyed claims......show us your reasoning proof.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
24. "It’s just not time for me to do that yet,"
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:51 PM
Dec 2015

Emphasis on "yet".

She could have said she disagreed with Clinton.

She could have said it wasn't time to endorse Sanders "YET"

She didn't.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
25. Elizabeth Warren's position vs. Hillary Clinton
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:04 AM
Dec 2015
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) urged progressives Tuesday to defend Wall Street reform laws and pushed again for re-instating legislation that would break up big banks.

Warren called on Democrats to rally behind her proposal to re-instate Glass-Steagall, which President Bill Clinton repealed in 1999, during a speech in Washington to mark the fifth anniversary of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform law. She portrayed the repeal of Glass-Steagall as one of the causes of the 2008 economic collapse, something that Federal Reserve officials and Clinton refute.

"That high wall between high-risk trading and boring banking was punched full of holes until in the late 1990s, it was knocked down when Glass-Steagall was eventually repealed," she said. "And not long after that, the worst crash since the 1930s hit the American economy."

Warren’s comments come a day after an advisor to Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton said Clinton has no plans to push for the bank break-up bill.


I gather the line in the sand has been drawn just on this one issue........we'll see who stays true to their positions. I personally find Elizabeth Warren's position, who has now declined 2 of 'Hillary's all women Senator get-togethers', as very telling.......If Warren endorses Hillary in the next short while, she could kiss her progressive support & leverage goodbye and I believe she is quite aware of that.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
6. Sure, if she wins the nomination, an endorsement is certain. Same for Sanders.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:06 PM
Dec 2015

Anything else is speculation, and you know that.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
22. Why would EW wait if she thought Bernie was a better candidate and all?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:31 PM
Dec 2015

She's got such high principles remember and Bernie Sanders is supposed to be some kind of perfect liberal saviour type. lol She's waiting to endorse because it benefits her to wait and for no other reason.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
23. You are free to speculate. I won't proffer an opinion, my only role was to point out
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:50 PM
Dec 2015

what was and what was not speculation.

Trying to guess a U.S. Senator's political motivations and intended endorsements seems like speculation to me.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
30. If she was going to endorse Bernie Sanders
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:26 AM
Dec 2015

because she thought Bernie was the better candidate, she would have, unless she's hedging her bets to get the most out of her endorsement as possible and doesn't care which one wins.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
31. You don't get it? I don't give a shit about your supposed reasons for thinking what you do
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:32 AM
Dec 2015

I just prefer that people understand what is and what is not speculation. Speculation isn't all or even mostly necessarily incorrect.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
33. But she would have endorsed Bernie Sanders if she thought he <was> the best candidate
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:00 AM
Dec 2015

unless she's waiting because her position would be better if she waited, but that isn't going to help Bernie. She must not care too much who wins though or she would have put her support behind one of them. Maybe she's just thinking of herself though.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
34. That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Not sure why you keep replying to me though.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:04 AM
Dec 2015
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
10. Since their political views are so much alike, I'd call it very reasonable to think
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:24 PM
Dec 2015

that Elizabeth would eventually endorse Bernie. I suppose timing could be an
important factor.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
17. The fact that she hasn't endorsed Bernie should be troublesome.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:24 PM
Dec 2015

She has more than enough endorsements from senators and representatives that hold far much more clout i.e. John Lewis and Sharrod Brown.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
27. I don't think so at all
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:19 AM
Dec 2015

A lot of folks aren't paying attention right now.

The time to endorse Bernie is when EVERYBODY is watching on a semi-slow media day. That would be around Iowa/New Hampshire - before if Bernie needs a boost or after if he's doing well in those states and they want momentum into Super Tueday.

To do it now or last summer would be a waste. She may pull a few to defect while she's at it. Or maybe the Kennedys get behind Bernie ...

who knows?

The effect of her endorsement could be like Ted Kennedy's in 2008 ...

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
37. Post the results...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:11 AM
Dec 2015

Since you told everyone you were alerting, it seems only fitting to post the results of the alert.

Sid

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
41. The taunt was posting your intention to alert...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:23 AM
Dec 2015

Why won't you post the alert and results?

Sid

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
36. She will
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:08 AM
Dec 2015

If Clinton is the nominee, Warren will endorse her and campaign for her. Should Clinton win, Warren will congratulate her. Should a President Clinton nominate questionable characters for financial regulatory positions or recommend questionable rules, she will find Warren opposing her just as hotly as she has opposed Obama.

Warren is not interested in compromising her independence. Anybody who thinks she'll endorse a primary candidate is simply wrong.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
3. She won't endorse anyone until the results are obvious or more likely until a nominee is choosen
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

Not unlike the President

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
4. Liz is using her head.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:46 PM
Dec 2015

She knows that to endorse Hillary now will forever alienate The (formerly Warren) Revolution who are now gathered at Bernie's shoal. She will want them for her own Presidential run after her stint in Hillary's Cabinet or Senate Leadership position should Dems take back the Senate.

Warren's influence on U.S. policy is already greater than Bernie's. She is a team player. She answered when The President called. She's in, and she is not going to risk that leverage for Bernie.

If she's using her head.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
11. I can't see Elizabeth endorsing Hillary. They have too many opposites -- Wall Street,
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

for example.

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
21. Would you say Sherrod Brown's positions are more in line with Bernie's or Hillary's?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:40 PM
Dec 2015

Would you say that Maxine Waters' positions are more in line with Bernie's or with Hillary's?

If Bernie's positions are more in line with Elizabeth's, why has she not yet endorsed him?

Do her ambitions for herself outweigh her principles? No I don't think so.

I just think she gets the long term politics. Her nuetrality at this point shows a self-awareness regarding her potential and the responsibilties that come with it.

Whether this thing is over fast or long and drawn out, she is not going to get in the middle of it.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
28. Me either
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:24 AM
Dec 2015

That Bill Moyers video with her talking about Hillary flip-flopping on the bankruptcy bill ...



The Clinton Foundation ...

Clinton's campaign donations from Wall Street, defense contractors, etc

This is stuff that's pretty core to what Elizabeth Warren isn't about.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
43. She was happy to have the Clintons support for her Senate campaign and...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:01 AM
Dec 2015

the money they raised for her wasn't rejected because it came from Wall St.

The fact that Bernie did nothing for her leaves her with a decision to make. Support the person who helped and supported you who you will have to work for the next 8 years, or support Bernie who will soon go back to being a little liked and relatively unsupportive Senator without a party.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
9. Nothing more..
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:14 PM
Dec 2015

than a public display to project party unity. Thats a far cry from an endorsement.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
12. That was some time ago. Nobody thought that Bernie would be running. Bernie, himself
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:32 PM
Dec 2015

probably didn't know it yet.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
48. She signed a letter just after entering the Senate
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:30 PM
Dec 2015

But she told CNN earlier this year that that letter does not equal an endorsement.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
13. "that's just who he is"! Wouldn't a Sanders/Warren ticket be the "most"?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 04:48 PM
Dec 2015

She is needed in the Senate, I know. But, what a team they would make.


 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
16. Why do we care? Her endorsement doesn't hold that much weight.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:22 PM
Dec 2015

Certainly not even close to Rep John Lewis and others. Her holding out on endorsing anyone is not a big deal.

oasis

(53,694 posts)
42. But..but the article says Warren's endorsement would be a "game changer".
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:41 AM
Dec 2015

As if Warren's support of Bernie would outweigh the scores of Democratic endorsements for Hillary.

"Game changer".......riiiiight.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. I greatly respect her decision to not endorse right now.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:29 PM
Dec 2015

I believe it is the best move for her right now.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
20. I remember when Elizabeth said Hillary "was terriffic".
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:33 PM
Dec 2015

THAT was paraded around DU by the Hillary crowd as an "ENDORSEMENT" for weeks.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
29. So why isn't EW endorsing Sanders? Why is it not time for her to do that yet?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:30 AM
Dec 2015

If she wanted Sanders to win the primary she'd be endorsing him now. See, Hillary has so many endorsements and is already ahead, so endorsing her wouldn't make that much of a difference.

Now, Sanders is another story. Very, very few Democratic endorsements. Many here think an endorsement from her would be a game changer...but, she isn't doing it. She isn't helping Sanders...hmmm

Why is that?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
44. The problem is that if EW endorses Bernie,
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:57 PM
Dec 2015

she will be shut out of the White House, and banished to the basement with the rest of The Progressive Caucus.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
47. So, she is certain (as you seem to be) that Hillary will win both the nomination and the GE. eom
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:22 PM
Dec 2015

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
38. Thanks EW for taking a bold stance as the only female Senator to not attend Hillary's endorsement...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:13 AM
Dec 2015

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
39. Interesting that if she and Bernie are so much in tune with the issues that she has difficulty
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:17 AM
Dec 2015

endorsing him. If she thinks he would be the better president why doesn't she do it now when he probably could use it with the first caucus and primary coming up. I see that half the article is on gun control and Bernie doesn't have a great record on that score, so maybe that is one reason why she is not endorsing him.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
46. If John Lewis is endorsing you
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:43 PM
Dec 2015

I really wouldn't worry about anyone else.

I'm sure the senator will endorse Hillary when she makes a Bernie win mathematically impossible

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