2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumElizabeth Warren Not Ready To Endorse A Presidential Candidate But Says Sanders TALKS FROM THE HEART

U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren said shes in no rush to endorse a 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, even if it makes her the only female senator in her party not to back Hillary Clinton. Its just not time for me to do that yet, Warren said last night during a Main Street holiday lighting ceremony in Melrose. Warren was glaringly absent at a Clinton fundraiser earlier this week in which 13 of the 14 Democratic women of the U.S. Senate backed the former U.S. secretary of state.
Warrens endorsement representing the progressive base of the party that Clinton has feverishly been courting could be a game-changer in the showdown between Clinton and Vermont U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders. Asked when she thinks she might make an endorsement of any candidate, Warren was noncommittal: I dont know. But she rejected the idea that Sanders is losing popularity, as Clinton holds on to a large lead in the national polls.
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http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2015/12/elizabeth_warren_not_ready_to_endorse_a_presidential_candidate
moobu2
(4,822 posts)Anybody that doesn't think that is delusional.
...instead of making more David Brock wild-eyed claims......show us your reasoning proof.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Emphasis on "yet".
She could have said she disagreed with Clinton.
She could have said it wasn't time to endorse Sanders "YET"
She didn't.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Warren called on Democrats to rally behind her proposal to re-instate Glass-Steagall, which President Bill Clinton repealed in 1999, during a speech in Washington to mark the fifth anniversary of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform law. She portrayed the repeal of Glass-Steagall as one of the causes of the 2008 economic collapse, something that Federal Reserve officials and Clinton refute.
"That high wall between high-risk trading and boring banking was punched full of holes until in the late 1990s, it was knocked down when Glass-Steagall was eventually repealed," she said. "And not long after that, the worst crash since the 1930s hit the American economy."
Warrens comments come a day after an advisor to Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton said Clinton has no plans to push for the bank break-up bill.
I gather the line in the sand has been drawn just on this one issue........we'll see who stays true to their positions. I personally find Elizabeth Warren's position, who has now declined 2 of 'Hillary's all women Senator get-togethers', as very telling.......If Warren endorses Hillary in the next short while, she could kiss her progressive support & leverage goodbye and I believe she is quite aware of that.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Anything else is speculation, and you know that.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)She's got such high principles remember and Bernie Sanders is supposed to be some kind of perfect liberal saviour type. lol She's waiting to endorse because it benefits her to wait and for no other reason.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)what was and what was not speculation.
Trying to guess a U.S. Senator's political motivations and intended endorsements seems like speculation to me.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)because she thought Bernie was the better candidate, she would have, unless she's hedging her bets to get the most out of her endorsement as possible and doesn't care which one wins.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I just prefer that people understand what is and what is not speculation. Speculation isn't all or even mostly necessarily incorrect.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)unless she's waiting because her position would be better if she waited, but that isn't going to help Bernie. She must not care too much who wins though or she would have put her support behind one of them. Maybe she's just thinking of herself though.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)that Elizabeth would eventually endorse Bernie. I suppose timing could be an
important factor.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)She has more than enough endorsements from senators and representatives that hold far much more clout i.e. John Lewis and Sharrod Brown.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)A lot of folks aren't paying attention right now.
The time to endorse Bernie is when EVERYBODY is watching on a semi-slow media day. That would be around Iowa/New Hampshire - before if Bernie needs a boost or after if he's doing well in those states and they want momentum into Super Tueday.
To do it now or last summer would be a waste. She may pull a few to defect while she's at it. Or maybe the Kennedys get behind Bernie ...
who knows?
The effect of her endorsement could be like Ted Kennedy's in 2008 ...
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Since you told everyone you were alerting, it seems only fitting to post the results of the alert.
Sid
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Why won't you post the alert and results?
Sid
If Clinton is the nominee, Warren will endorse her and campaign for her. Should Clinton win, Warren will congratulate her. Should a President Clinton nominate questionable characters for financial regulatory positions or recommend questionable rules, she will find Warren opposing her just as hotly as she has opposed Obama.
Warren is not interested in compromising her independence. Anybody who thinks she'll endorse a primary candidate is simply wrong.
still_one
(98,883 posts)Not unlike the President
LuvLoogie
(8,815 posts)She knows that to endorse Hillary now will forever alienate The (formerly Warren) Revolution who are now gathered at Bernie's shoal. She will want them for her own Presidential run after her stint in Hillary's Cabinet or Senate Leadership position should Dems take back the Senate.
Warren's influence on U.S. policy is already greater than Bernie's. She is a team player. She answered when The President called. She's in, and she is not going to risk that leverage for Bernie.
If she's using her head.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)for example.
LuvLoogie
(8,815 posts)Would you say that Maxine Waters' positions are more in line with Bernie's or with Hillary's?
If Bernie's positions are more in line with Elizabeth's, why has she not yet endorsed him?
Do her ambitions for herself outweigh her principles? No I don't think so.
I just think she gets the long term politics. Her nuetrality at this point shows a self-awareness regarding her potential and the responsibilties that come with it.
Whether this thing is over fast or long and drawn out, she is not going to get in the middle of it.
That Bill Moyers video with her talking about Hillary flip-flopping on the bankruptcy bill ...
The Clinton Foundation ...
Clinton's campaign donations from Wall Street, defense contractors, etc
This is stuff that's pretty core to what Elizabeth Warren isn't about.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)the money they raised for her wasn't rejected because it came from Wall St.
The fact that Bernie did nothing for her leaves her with a decision to make. Support the person who helped and supported you who you will have to work for the next 8 years, or support Bernie who will soon go back to being a little liked and relatively unsupportive Senator without a party.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)than a public display to project party unity. Thats a far cry from an endorsement.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)probably didn't know it yet.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)But she told CNN earlier this year that that letter does not equal an endorsement.
Duval
(4,280 posts)She is needed in the Senate, I know. But, what a team they would make.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Certainly not even close to Rep John Lewis and others. Her holding out on endorsing anyone is not a big deal.
oasis
(53,694 posts)As if Warren's support of Bernie would outweigh the scores of Democratic endorsements for Hillary.
"Game changer".......riiiiight.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I believe it is the best move for her right now.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)THAT was paraded around DU by the Hillary crowd as an "ENDORSEMENT" for weeks.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Between Women and Children, she figured Hillary loved Wall Street the most...
http://samuel-warde.com/2015/10/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton-chose-wall-street/
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)If she wanted Sanders to win the primary she'd be endorsing him now. See, Hillary has so many endorsements and is already ahead, so endorsing her wouldn't make that much of a difference.
Now, Sanders is another story. Very, very few Democratic endorsements. Many here think an endorsement from her would be a game changer...but, she isn't doing it. She isn't helping Sanders...hmmm
Why is that?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)she will be shut out of the White House, and banished to the basement with the rest of The Progressive Caucus.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)endorsing him. If she thinks he would be the better president why doesn't she do it now when he probably could use it with the first caucus and primary coming up. I see that half the article is on gun control and Bernie doesn't have a great record on that score, so maybe that is one reason why she is not endorsing him.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I really wouldn't worry about anyone else.
I'm sure the senator will endorse Hillary when she makes a Bernie win mathematically impossible