Hillary supporters are a big reason I will not support Hillary

[Cheese Sandwich]

Yes she's got the support of this war criminal, this enemy of the people, one of the most despicable characters in American history, a man who belongs behind bars, who used the power of the US government to overthrow democratically elected governments and replace them with right wing dictators, Mr. Henry Kissinger.

He is quite happy with Mrs. Clinton because she follows along with the same type of policies he did, the policies of empire and domination. In some ways Clinton is actually worse than Kissinger because she's left a legacy of chaos, failed states, terrorists run rampant, and a refugee crisis that threatens global stability. From Libya, to Syria, to Honduras, US foreign policy under Hillary Clinton resulted in immense human tragedy. Her Senate vote authorizing the Iraq war is the clearest example.

No Thanks.

Sec. Kissinger: “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president.” According to Sec. Kissinger’s interview with NPR’s Scott Simon, regarding whether Sec. Kissinger thought Sec. Clinton would be a good president, “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president. But she’d put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” (NPR, 9/8/14)

Sec. Kissinger: “She’d (Sec. Clinton would) put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” According to Sec. Kissinger’s interview with NPR’s Scott Simon, regarding whether Sec. Kissinger thought Sec. Clinton would be a good president, “I know Hillary as a person. And as a personal friend, I would say yes, she’d be a good president. But she’d put me under a great conflict of interest if she were a candidate, because I tend to support the Republicans… Yes, I’d be comfortable with her as the president.” (NPR, 9/8/14)

“Republicans praised the prospect of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Sunday. Former Nixon and Ford Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said Sunday that Clinton would be an ‘outstanding’ selection. ‘She is a lady of great intelligence, demonstrated enormous determination and would be an outstanding appointment,’ Kissinger told the World Economic Forum’s India Economic Summit in New Delhi, according to Bloomberg News.” (CNN.com, 11/16/08)

“I think of Hillary with admiration and affection. . . When I call Mrs. Clinton ‘Hillary,’ I do that not so much to indicate familiarity but to use a name that the whole world uses. It shows to what extent she has succeeded in her people-to-people work.” – Henry Kissinger, Former National Security Adviser and Secretary of State for President Nixon and President Ford (Washington Post, 5/3/13)

http://correctrecord.org/praise-for-hillary-clinton/

[Metric System]

1. Your lack of support for Hillary has been detailed many times on this forum. We didn't need a thread

[Cheese Sandwich]

2. Henry Kissinger

[HooptieWagon]

7. Hillary's bff.

She has a particularly repugnant circle of friends and mentors.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. Hey don't blame me because war criminals endorse Hillary Clinton

[Crystalite]

10. What a foul and uncivil reply.

Maybe you didn't know that, but it is.

This is not very nice.

"Bugger"
1. penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize.

[senz]

28. ...

Don't want to comment on that, but I have wanted to tell you that the layout of your signature line along with your avatar is very aesthetically pleasing. I wouldn't be surprised if you have had graphic design training. Nice job!

[Crystalite]

41. You are very kind.

I hadn't given it much thought but it does kind of work visually.

And yes I did have a year as a general design major before going on to a related profession.

[senz]

44. It's always cool when your hunches turn out to be true.

You're definitely in the right line of work.

[Duckhunter935]

4. as are the many posted by Hillary supporters

Way too many of those threads.

[DonCoquixote]

17. actually we do

Because we know some Hillary supporters are trying to bury facts in steam and noise, and hoping she will ACT like Henry Kissinger.

[daleanime]

3. A different take on it that my thoughts.....

thanks for sharing.

[Cheese Sandwich]

12. Ah...I've just seen yours

A nice positive message. Thanks for that one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251878797

[HooptieWagon]

6. Well, there's Hillary herself...

That's the main reason for me. But her supporters do make it impossible for me to even hold my nose and vote for her.

[redstateblues]

78. I'll be glad when this place is truly DU again

and when all the non Democrats are gone. Only a few more months.

[Menshunables]

9. That man is the face of evil. I don't know how anyone can be in the same room as him.

I understand that Hillary can't up and slap him and call him a mass murderer. I wish she didn't look so pleased in that picture, but meeting all sorts of people is part of this politicking game.

Taking advice from him, on the other hand, is really, really bad and there is no reason for that.

[MannyGoldstein]

11. Not as bad as driving a Volvo

You OP has forced me to switch from Bernie to Hillary.

Regards,

TWM

[navarth]

61. +1 for Manny nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

69. I'm sure

[TIME TO PANIC]

13. Kissinger is scum, but don't forget her other supporters.

JPMorgan Chase & Co
Citigroup Inc.
Goldman Sachs
Lehman Brothers
Time Warner

Just to name a few.

[Cheese Sandwich]

15. True

There are plenty of horrible, horrible people on team Hillary.

[Betty Karlson]

86. Corporations are NOT people, my friend.

Stop repeating that Romney lie, please!

[senz]

20. As well as weapons manufacturers & the private prison industry

Such a fine and noble woman this is.

Just what America needs!

[Walk away]

14. The "Silly Season" on DU rolls on!

Always good for a laugh

[hrmjustin]

16. Will you support her if she is the nominee?

[DonCoquixote]

18. only if

and I realize that the only way to pull her left is to give her the same supports she gives us, piecemeal, and only doled out at my convenience, with lots of strings attached.

[senz]

22. Do you support Henry Kissinger?

Hillary does.

Better get on board, hrmjustin.

[hrmjustin]

23. Better get on board what?

[senz]

26. Get on board with your candidate's fellow supporters.

Start loving Henry Kissinger and the big banks that crashed our economy and the private prison industry and major weapons manufacturers and Donald Trump and the Bush family. For starters.

Huge supporters of Hillary Clinton.

Go ahead, dive in. Hillary would tell you the water's fine. Your trust her, so have at it.

[hrmjustin]

27. Your post is ridiculous and shows you are not serious.

[Jester Messiah]

30. To the contrary, their post shows the appropriate level of scrutiny for our party's nominee.

If one is known by the company one keeps, Hillary is very suspect indeed.

[hrmjustin]

32. Yet she is leading the polls nationwide and almost all the states in the primary.

[Jester Messiah]

37. For now.

But if she does take the nomination, I think there is a very great chance that she loses the general due to voter apathy / antipathy.

[senz]

36. Actually, my post is quite serious, as am I.

You need to know exactly who it is your are voting for. I'm talking about the big picture, hrmjustin. Don't shut your eyes to the parts you don't like, because you and I will have to live with those parts if she makes it to the presidency. Her major donors and supporters will have HUGE influence on what she does with the power of the presidency. You need to think about the future for yourself and your loved ones. And for the country. A lot hangs in the balance.

Open your eyes. There is more to your candidate than your pleasant little image of her. Much more.

[hrmjustin]

40. My eyes are wide open.

[Jester Messiah]

29. I mean really, if Kissinger supports her, how can anyone not?

Heck, the only more powerful endorsement she could get would be Dick Cheney.

[hrmjustin]

31. Not a hard question to answer.

If she ever wins the nomination will you support her?

[Jester Messiah]

34. What do you think?

But no, I will not be handing you an opportunity to go sobbing to the admins today. Such a pathetic tactic, those "loyalty oath" posts.

[senz]

38. Yes, pathetic

and utterly damning of those who employ that tactic.

[hrmjustin]

39. You don't have to answer it but don't act like it is not a legitimate question.

It is a politival discussion board.

Good day.

[Ned_Devine]

54. Here in Massachusetts I don't have to

[billhicks76]

62. Doesn't Matter

Not personal. The fact is millions will stay at home and not be motivated to vote. Most will be independents and uninvolved democrats. If you really cared about final outcomes you would do everything in your power to have Hillary drop out now. Trying to blackmail people into voting for her based on the lesser of two evils argument is old and stale and won't work again. Many republicans, democrats and independents will be turning away from the ballot box as a way to solve their problems. Many will give up. And others will try to fight it out in the streets. Do you not understand what is happening to our country? Can you not see? Are you blind and so caught up in a bubble you don't notice the razors edge we are living on?

[hrmjustin]

63. I think you are the one living in the bubble.

Good day.

[billhicks76]

70. Good Luck In Fantasyland

[hrmjustin]

71. Go tell it to someone else who will buy your pessimism.

Good evening!

[billhicks76]

72. Credibility Crisis

And guys like Trump who benefit it can be directly tied to it. We are in deep doo doo. I'm actually an optimist. But I'm not an ostrich with his head in the sand or a lemming following false leaders off a cliff. Bernie is the only candidate that won't screw us all.

[hrmjustin]

73. Go preach it to someone who believes you.

He is mot the only one eho cares about the country in this race.

[billhicks76]

74. Hillary "Regime Change" Clintons Venezuela Remarks

She's at it again. The opposition leader there was killed by rival gang members. He is a Mafia figure. The kind Clinton always seem to support and she's weighing in to deflect onto the government. Just like the right wing coup she enabled in Honduras so corporate interest could screw the common people once again. How's Libya going? Now it's a terrorist haven after she destabilized it. Sorry but this website isn't a place where you just tell people to shut up with your hands over your ears. Hillary is a hawk and corporate tool.

[hrmjustin]

75. Go sell your Hillary Clinton is a warmonger speech to someone else.

[billhicks76]

81. It Sold Itself

[hrmjustin]

82. In your mind only.

[billhicks76]

84. Lol

[Docreed2003]

77. Truth...

Like John the Baptist crying out in the dark....those who will see this as truth know it, the defectors will howl with indignation...it doesn't make it less true

[Hundred Rads]

19. It seems we will no longer be able to only blame the GOP ...

... for political gridlock. Hating anyone and everyone from the "opposition" party used to be the unique purview of the Tea Party.

The OP makes it very clear this is no longer the case. And it is a shame. This country will never heal with that kind of attitude.

[Cheese Sandwich]

21. On the other hand Kissinger is pretty easy to hate.

[Hundred Rads]

46. Kissinger is before my time. I don't hate him.

I certainly don't hate Clinton for having her picture taken with him.

Your OP strikes me as being unnecessarily divisive.

(FYI: I will be voting for Bernie in our primary)

[senz]

57. 20th century America is still relevant

when choosing candidates for president. I lived most of my life in that century and didn't begin to appreciate how significant it was until enough time had passed to get some perspective. Your time will be even more significant, because you've got mind-boggling problems facing you, and my generation won't be around too much longer, so you and your friends are going to carry some serious responsibilities, and all I can do is hope y'all are up to it.

As for Henry Kissenger, if you're interested, you could do a browser search on "Henry Kissinger" and "war criminal" and make up your own mind.

As for the OP, the photo isn't the point, the text beneath it is.

And I'm so glad you're voting for Bernie.

[Hundred Rads]

58. I know who Kissinger is … Nobel Prize, Nixon Sec of State, Vietnam, etc.

You really think I'd get an unbiased summary of him by Googling "Henry Kissinger war criminal"? I imagine it would be of similar quality as a search for "Hillary Clinton murderer"

[senz]

24. I think it's exposure to H supporters on DU that does it.

They do much damage to their candidate and don't seem to care.

Sad, eh?

[Hundred Rads]

45. That is a confusing response to my post.

I am talking about some Democrats automatically hating every Republican and not tolerating any Democrat who even speaks to a Republican.

[senz]

49. Ah, I see where you're coming from.

I agree that politicians of every stripe need to communicate smoothly with those of other stripes.

Collegiality, personal friendships, are one thing. Political support, however, is another, for it involves policy stands, fundamental values, and how one intends to use power in a democracy. The policy decisions of our elected representatives affect the well-being of ourselves and those we love.

Henry Kissinger has given his approval to the notion of Hillary running this country; therefore, it is highly likely that he approves her approach to domestic and foreign policy. And that is a concern for those of us who reject Kissinger's politics.

[billhicks76]

83. Clintonites Would Ban All Opposition If They Could

Only makes sense that Hillary is close family friends with the criminal Bush family. Let's not even bring up Kissinger.

[MaggieD]

33. LOL!

Did I strike a nerve?

[Dem2]

35. Copycat treads are designed to do what?

[ESKD]

42. Not only that, but Clinton's association with Kagan and Nuland is questionable

since they are both signatories of the PNAC document.

[senz]

51. If this is true, it's alarming.

It's scary that she's running for the Democratic nomination. She belongs on the other side.

[olddots]

43. I have put myself on ignore during primary seasons here

Since 2004 .

[Cheese Sandwich]

55. I just tried to put myself on ignore

Doesn't work.

[senz]

60. If you put yourself on ignore,

could the rest of us still see your posts?

[Hundred Rads]

47. What is your reaction to this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251879191

[tammywammy]

48. Falwell isn't a Sanders supporter

Sanders appeared at Liberty University, but there's no way in hell Falwell supports Sanders. That's just silly to try and imply that.

[Hundred Rads]

50. And Kissinger made it clear he would not carte blanche support Clinton's candidacy

I find the OP very troubling.

[upaloopa]

52. Funny. I think the same about you

I wonder if you'll be here after Hillary wins the nomination.

[Cheese Sandwich]

53. Gift of Freedom™

Hillary Clinton on the Iraq war: "I made a mistake" - 2015

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

59. Gosh, I was counting on your vote.

Why wouldn't I be here?

[jalan48]

56. Her real achievement if elected will be to become the first female member of the good ole boys club.

[LeatherSofa]

64. This will work out well for the Repubs

Because of the nastiness of Hillary's opponents here, I am determined not to support any candidate except her. We can all head into election season at total war against one another.

[Beacool]

65. Meh, support the candidate of your choice.

I stopped listening to your side long ago, the endless nasty and vitriolic posts against Hillary and her supporters are a complete turn-off and certainly haven't won over people.

[Kalidurga]

66. I think I get it now

if you bring up a legitimate point about Hillary, that she has the support of Kissinger it's a smear against Hillary and Bernie supporters are mean.

I don't really care about her meeting with Kissinger I don't care if they like each other. There are so many other issues that are higher on my list like the TPP and the Keystone Pipeline deal and not knowing what her position on either is today or will be tomorrow. But, good for bringing this up. It is important to note how much a candidate will support our bloated MIC.

[Cheese Sandwich]

67. Yeah. The title and the Kissinger angle was really just an excuse to talk about policy and ideology

[Kalidurga]

68. That is how I took it.

I also see the posts on Bernie talking a Liberty U the same way. I think they are wrong to use that as a smear. But if they are open to talking reason I see it as a way to talk policy and ideology.

[Cheese Sandwich]

79. Not that Kissinger isn't a disgusting person.

He is. I understand government officials have to work with some disgusting people. But they are so close together on policies and attitudes. That's the troubling part, for me.

[AgingAmerican]

76. They haven't quite reached the depths Obama supporters reached in 08

But they are trying.

[still_one]

80. I will vote for whoever the Democratic Nominee is

[Cheese Sandwich]

87. ?