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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:09 PM Dec 2015

86% of Democratic Senators, 76% of Democratic Representatives, 67% of Democratic Governors

Have already endorsed Clinton.

That is an unbelievable record considering the first vote hasn't even been cast for our nominee.

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86% of Democratic Senators, 76% of Democratic Representatives, 67% of Democratic Governors (Original Post) Godhumor Dec 2015 OP
That has absolutely no effect on my vote for Bernie. djean111 Dec 2015 #1
All Camp Hillary has going for them are endorsements. It's basically peer pressure. reformist2 Dec 2015 #43
Sure but it does have impact on some Hillary supporters who might be thinking of jumping ship. DCBob Dec 2015 #54
She also has the lion's share of state representatives and MADem Dec 2015 #2
Exaxctly- the movers and shakers. pangaia Dec 2015 #28
if they all jumped off a bridge ibegurpard Dec 2015 #3
thumbsup elleng Dec 2015 #11
Probably not. A lot would depend on ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #15
That might not be so bad... Kalidurga Dec 2015 #51
Probably. What's more likely: everyone I know has gone insane Recursion Dec 2015 #58
Amazing....... Historic NY Dec 2015 #4
The race is likely already over if Super-Delegates remain faithful Renew Deal Dec 2015 #5
If voters want an establishment candidate to perpetuate the status quo, she's their huckleberry. Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #6
That's not what she is and that is why she upaloopa Dec 2015 #17
Is she or isn't she the establishment candidate? Which candidate from either party is proposing LESS Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #19
so is Sanders... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #29
In other words, people with power and money support Hillary? LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #7
Or, it could mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #16
All that means to me fredamae Dec 2015 #8
Sanders is a mainstream politician VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #30
Thank you for your opinion :) n/t fredamae Dec 2015 #35
Another reason why Sanders will never get above 30-35% Gman Dec 2015 #9
Sure, but how many of them will actually vote for her.. mcranor Dec 2015 #10
Even if she lost 50% of them, I doubt they'd migrate to Bernie Sheepshank Dec 2015 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #13
It's a good thing that politicians are held in such high esteem by voters...oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #14
Voters re-elect them to their respective districts, just as Bernie' s constituents oasis Dec 2015 #36
Does that mean they respect them? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #37
Malcontents choose to stay home on Election Day unless a messiah oasis Dec 2015 #40
Pie in the sky? Is that like Politics as usual? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #42
Women's voting rights, the New Deal, Civil rights, Medicare. oasis Dec 2015 #45
And, that the politicians were forced into it by "malcontents". Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #46
Let's see if our current crop of malcontents will accept oasis Dec 2015 #50
FiveThirtyEight - The Endorsement Primary Alfresco Dec 2015 #18
Because Hillary is a winner. Bernie is ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #20
A winner of what? zalinda Dec 2015 #22
"She was First Lady because of Bill and Secretary of State because of Obama." nt LexVegas Dec 2015 #23
Tell me I got the fact wrong. eom zalinda Dec 2015 #26
So, she rode in on the boys coat tails, eh? leftofcool Dec 2015 #24
Tell me I got the facts wrong. eom zalinda Dec 2015 #27
first time for everything VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #31
It won't be Bernie, that's for sure. He'll be the loser of this primary. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #41
Bernie is a ...looser? pangaia Dec 2015 #33
Them that gots... 99Forever Dec 2015 #21
0% of fucks given. frylock Dec 2015 #25
Wait until Iowa! After she wins everyone will be endorsing... Walk away Dec 2015 #32
And how well the party has done under the current leaders Doctor_J Dec 2015 #34
He is at a stand still and in some national polls out today losing alittle ground FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #38
Really amazing considering Sanders is the career politician running. #hillyes nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #39
Yeah, but she's been living off the government zalinda Dec 2015 #52
ho hum loyalsister Dec 2015 #44
A very believable testament to the power of Hillary Clinton... Ino Dec 2015 #47
But, money in politics is not a problem, right? Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #48
Wow, she is running the table on him! MaggieD Dec 2015 #49
A Public Service Kick Alfresco Dec 2015 #53
which supports the notion "the fix is in" to a degree Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #55
Ninety-nine percent of the people John Poet Dec 2015 #56
I find it rather disgusting and disdainful to the voting public, myself. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #57
That's not very many considering the ass-kicking Democrats have been taking lately ... Scuba Dec 2015 #59
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. That has absolutely no effect on my vote for Bernie.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:13 PM
Dec 2015

Politicians endorse other politicians, usually, because they hope to gain by the endorsement.
I do not feel that I have anything to gain, and much to lose, by voting for Clinton. So I will not.
Bottom line.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
54. Sure but it does have impact on some Hillary supporters who might be thinking of jumping ship.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:15 PM
Dec 2015

This gives them confidence they have chosen the best candidate.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. She also has the lion's share of state representatives and
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:13 PM
Dec 2015

state party movers and shakers.

People like to be asked for their vote...!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
28. Exaxctly- the movers and shakers.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:10 PM
Dec 2015

And THAT is who we need to get rid of.
That is the whole point.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. Probably not. A lot would depend on ...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:43 PM
Dec 2015

Why they were jumping and what was below me.

But that said ... there is a reason for the best practice of seeking peer references when making hiring decisions.

Renew Deal

(85,349 posts)
5. The race is likely already over if Super-Delegates remain faithful
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:18 PM
Dec 2015

But there are no guarantees on that.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
6. If voters want an establishment candidate to perpetuate the status quo, she's their huckleberry.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:21 PM
Dec 2015

I don't think that's what they want

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
17. That's not what she is and that is why she
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:55 PM
Dec 2015

has the endorsements and why she is leading in the polls and why she will be the 45st and first woman President.

Madam President

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
19. Is she or isn't she the establishment candidate? Which candidate from either party is proposing LESS
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:02 PM
Dec 2015

change than Clinton?

How is Clinton NOT the establishment candidate offering more of the same?

Who is the establishment/status quo candidate if not Clinton?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
16. Or, it could mean ...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:47 PM
Dec 2015

That people that know, personally and professionally, both HRC and Bernie, having worked with both, prefer HRC.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
8. All that means to me
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:25 PM
Dec 2015

is that these people are Wrong and I'm correct
Seriously tho-I am solidly, unwavering in my support of Bernie Sanders.....so the mainstream politicians support no longer influences me......

 

mcranor

(92 posts)
10. Sure, but how many of them will actually vote for her..
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:31 PM
Dec 2015

...once they're alone in the booth?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
12. Even if she lost 50% of them, I doubt they'd migrate to Bernie
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:36 PM
Dec 2015

...realistically what are the chances she would lose 50% of those endorsements?

Response to Godhumor (Original post)

oasis

(53,977 posts)
36. Voters re-elect them to their respective districts, just as Bernie' s constituents
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:27 PM
Dec 2015

return him to office. Oh wait.......you already knew that.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
37. Does that mean they respect them?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:33 PM
Dec 2015

Or, are they just going through the motions? How about the people who choose not to vote? Is it because they hold politicians in such high esteem?

oasis

(53,977 posts)
40. Malcontents choose to stay home on Election Day unless a messiah
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:49 PM
Dec 2015

happens to come onto the scene with promises of "pie in the sky".

An overwhelming number of congress folks are returned to office by offering voters well grounded, substantive proposals.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
42. Pie in the sky? Is that like Politics as usual?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:18 PM
Dec 2015

I have a hunch that a lot of those "malcontents" are just fed up with a corrupt system that gives us "more of the same" year after year.

oasis

(53,977 posts)
45. Women's voting rights, the New Deal, Civil rights, Medicare.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:34 PM
Dec 2015

All from the same "corrupt system". One has to take into account that no of this happened overnight.

oasis

(53,977 posts)
50. Let's see if our current crop of malcontents will accept
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:05 PM
Dec 2015

the concept of comprise and settle for half a loaf this time around. Nothing is gained by sitting out an election.

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
18. FiveThirtyEight - The Endorsement Primary
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:58 PM
Dec 2015

In presidential primaries, endorsements have been among the best predictors of which candidates will succeed and which will fail. So we’re keeping track.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
22. A winner of what?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:41 PM
Dec 2015

The only elections she has won is in New York, where not only did Moynihan get her the Democratic nomination, but it was in a almost totally blue state. Big whup!

I can't see where she has won anything else. She was First Lady because of Bill and Secretary of State because of Obama. Not a great track record of winning.

Bernie has won every election since the middle 1980's, so who is the real winner?

Z

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
21. Them that gots...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:04 PM
Dec 2015

..want more.

Fuck what We the People want.

Message received. Loud and clear.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
32. Wait until Iowa! After she wins everyone will be endorsing...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:14 PM
Dec 2015

A lot of folks are waiting until then because it used to be the beginning of the political season.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
34. And how well the party has done under the current leaders
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015

They're the ones who transformed it from the party of social security, Medicare, and the voting rights act to the party of heritage care and the TPP, and have us close to disappearing altogether.

FloridaBlues

(4,684 posts)
38. He is at a stand still and in some national polls out today losing alittle ground
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

You can't diss the party you want to run on.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
47. A very believable testament to the power of Hillary Clinton...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:54 PM
Dec 2015

...to terrify everyone.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/195188-hillarys-hit-list

Almost six years later most Clinton aides can still rattle off the names of traitors and the favors that had been done for them, then provide details of just how each of the guilty had gone on to betray the Clintons—as if it all had happened just a few hours before. The data project ensured that the acts of the sinners and saints would never be forgotten.

There was a special circle of Clinton hell reserved for people who had endorsed Obama or stayed on the fence after Bill and Hillary had raised money for them, appointed them to a political post, or written a recommendation to ice their kid’s application to an elite school.

On one early draft of the hit list, each Democratic member of Congress was assigned a numerical grade from one to seven, with the most helpful to Hillary earning ones and the most treacherous drawing sevens. The set of sevens included Sens. John Kerry, Jay Rockefeller, Bob Casey, and Patrick Leahy, as well as Reps. Chris Van Hollen, Baron Hill, and Rob Andrews.

Yet even seven didn’t seem strong enough to quantify the betrayal of some onetime allies.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/12/confidants-diary-clinton-wanted-to-keep-records-for-revenge/
Shortly before Hillary Clinton’s effort to pass health care reform died in the summer of 1994, the first lady asked a close friend and confidant for advice on “how best to preserve her general memories of the administration and of health care in particular.”

When asked why, according to the friend’s June 20, 1994, diary entry, Clinton said, “Revenge.”

There's no downside to not endorsing Sanders... he's not a vengeful person. But no one wants to be on the wrong side of Hillary Clinton, whether she wins or loses.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
55. which supports the notion "the fix is in" to a degree
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:52 PM
Dec 2015

The extremity suggests it has been a bit of a rigged contest.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
56. Ninety-nine percent of the people
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:19 AM
Dec 2015

thought the world was FLAT....




like Hillary's appeal to the masses....

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
59. That's not very many considering the ass-kicking Democrats have been taking lately ...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:28 AM
Dec 2015

Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats since 2009.

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