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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:14 PM Dec 2015

Bernie stands up for AA communities, gets criticized for it (video)

This can't be posted enough. Bernie takes a day to work with the AA community, but because it's not about ISIS he gets criticized. He has a great response toward the end of the video to the reporter that asked about ISIS (10:55ish), but the whole video is more important than just that one moment.

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Bernie stands up for AA communities, gets criticized for it (video) (Original Post) HerbChestnut Dec 2015 OP
This is they video they don't want you to see Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #1
No kidding HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #3
These issues deserve focus. Bernie stands up for working class people Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #5
And gets soundly trashed by democrats for doing it Autumn Dec 2015 #7
Someone spun this as: Sanders stormed off stage and escaped in a black van Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #12
CNNClinton wanted to ruin it Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #73
Nailed it. n/t ljm2002 Dec 2015 #68
Bernie won't be badgered, stays on message. AA's say thank you. GO Bernie!!! n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #2
Damned if he does damned if he doesn't. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #4
Running for President is difficult and being President is even more difficult Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #8
On the contrary. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #10
but not a multitasker! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #15
Actually, dealing with multiple issues at once, like what he's doing... HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #16
Not if that includes foreign policy apparently... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #22
He's talked about ISIS and foreign policy on multiple occassions recently and will continue to do so HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #24
Based on what? Your opinion? Dawgs Dec 2015 #11
I think he is more than capable. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #13
"Let's stay on topic" = not up to the job. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #34
"Like with a cloth?" (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #37
I bet Bernie converted some voters in Baltimore today. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #65
I hope you're right. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #93
"We don't have permanent friends, we have permanent interests." winter is coming Dec 2015 #6
Great quote Cheese Sandwich Dec 2015 #14
That guy nailed it. Friends come and go. nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #33
Amen..... daleanime Dec 2015 #57
+ E9 MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #77
big media loves Mrs Clinton. Doctor_J Dec 2015 #9
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! JaneyVee Dec 2015 #30
They will stay rich even if Bernie becomes President. stillwaiting Dec 2015 #109
No Bernie did not get criticized for standing upaloopa Dec 2015 #17
For what? He did nothing wrong. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #19
I never said he did anything wrong upaloopa Dec 2015 #35
Where in my OP did I mention Hillary or the media? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #36
I must be seeing things upaloopa Dec 2015 #49
NP HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #50
The so-called "consequences" of this speech is that it shows why he IS the choice for president! cascadiance Dec 2015 #59
The consequences are the very fact that we upaloopa Dec 2015 #60
Oh the way that Hillary avoids talking about SO MANY THINGS like TPP, H-1B, etc. cascadiance Dec 2015 #62
He did not get criticized for "standing up for the AA community" MaggieD Dec 2015 #18
Not true at all, Maggie. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #20
we know....where you are "coming from" VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #23
Did you watch the video? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #25
How does that change anything about "where you are coming from"? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #26
Because it shows the whole situation unfolding and the context for what happened HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #27
Yes, but he STILL isn't being criticized "for standing up for the AA community" MaggieD Dec 2015 #28
No, that's *exactly* what he's being criticized for because that's what he did HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #32
They FORCED Bernie to have a temper tantrum? MaggieD Dec 2015 #39
He's passionate, what else is there to say? HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #42
"Prone to tantrums" is not a characteristic people want in a President MaggieD Dec 2015 #44
The way Bernie reacted could hardly be described as a "tantrum" HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #47
Sure looked like one to me MaggieD Dec 2015 #48
Considering that I actually saw what those stores are talking about HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #54
He didn't have a temper tantrum. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #66
Bernie did not have a temper tantrum... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #70
There was no temper tantrum... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #69
+1 darkangel218 Dec 2015 #90
....more than look a "little" desperate. bvar22 Dec 2015 #114
Thanks for posting this video. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #21
Media doesn't seem to cotton to being told what to do. He put up a big red flag. Anyone would face seabeyond Dec 2015 #29
Exactly. Why do Bernie supporters hate a free press? MaggieD Dec 2015 #41
Yes, how dare his campaign... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #71
Quit blaming everyone else. Sanders did it, with lack of something. He demanded. seabeyond Dec 2015 #74
See, here's the thing... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #75
Who started the OP griping about Sanders being picked on? That is what is being addressed. nt seabeyond Dec 2015 #80
Ah, I see the problem now... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #95
You implied a falsehood. I corrected you. seabeyond Dec 2015 #99
What falsehood? ljm2002 Dec 2015 #102
LOL. Yeah, he's getting criticized for "standing up for the AA community". JaneyVee Dec 2015 #31
He's getting criticized for insisting that it not be ignored, yes Armstead Dec 2015 #40
So if Hillary had a tantrum because they asked about emails MaggieD Dec 2015 #43
"Like with a cloth?" (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #45
You keep posting that, but I have zero idea what you're trying to say MaggieD Dec 2015 #51
Can't remember your own candidate's statements? jeff47 Dec 2015 #52
Huh? MaggieD Dec 2015 #53
LMGTFY jeff47 Dec 2015 #55
You make me smile, Jeff. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #67
Thanks! jeff47 Dec 2015 #76
Oh, more right wing web sites MaggieD Dec 2015 #81
Google is a right-wing web site now? jeff47 Dec 2015 #84
No, but all the links that come up are MaggieD Dec 2015 #86
So yes, you are sticking with your claim that Google is a right-wing website. jeff47 Dec 2015 #88
That's not how google works, actually. n/t Gore1FL Dec 2015 #110
LOL HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #82
Not a surprise. A Bernie basher, not a Hillary supporter. morningfog Dec 2015 #78
Keeping track of what your chosen candidate has said is so hard! jeff47 Dec 2015 #85
I think you're lashing out because Bernie got berned today MaggieD Dec 2015 #87
And I don't think I'm going to listen much to someone who claims Google is a right-wing website. jeff47 Dec 2015 #89
Click your own link - National Review, Washington Times MaggieD Dec 2015 #91
ABC news, CNN, BBC, WaPo, TPM, DKos.... jeff47 Dec 2015 #92
I know it's a right wing talking point thanks to you MaggieD Dec 2015 #97
Clinton said a right-wing smear about herself?! jeff47 Dec 2015 #98
Whatever, dude MaggieD Dec 2015 #100
Nah, I'm entertained at just how little you know about your own candidate. jeff47 Dec 2015 #101
They hate Bernie and liberals. They don't care about Hillary. morningfog Dec 2015 #108
Haha... cui bono Dec 2015 #112
So Hillary's words are a right wing talking point? cui bono Dec 2015 #113
Aren't you the one who posted a right wing source? morningfog Dec 2015 #94
Yeah, with a mainstream source to back it up MaggieD Dec 2015 #96
Right. When you used a right wing source, argue repeatedly morningfog Dec 2015 #107
I won't put you on my ignore list, but I'm going to ignore you Armstead Dec 2015 #46
No one had a tantrum... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #72
ISIS is not our greatest threat. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #38
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #56
Do we remember Hills "tantrum" aspirant Dec 2015 #58
Lets make it viral Kalidurga Dec 2015 #61
It's the latest swiftboating meme. You can set your watch by them. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #63
Bernie did a great job. We need more like him and less like Hillary. Broward Dec 2015 #64
That's a pretty awesome video to me, especially the end... only thing he missed... Bread and Circus Dec 2015 #79
Bernie is awesome. This is why we love him. azmom Dec 2015 #83
Fantastic... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #103
Disadvantaged PEOPLE and communities matter to Senator Bernie Sanders! ...Fuck all that other noise. Agony Dec 2015 #104
Bernie Proves (again) why He is the Right Candidate for 2016. gordyfl Dec 2015 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author gordyfl Dec 2015 #106
Not *for* doing it. But for something else that happened *while* doing it. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #111
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
1. This is they video they don't want you to see
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:15 PM
Dec 2015

This event today is the reason why the Clinton MSM spin machine is working overtime right now.

Repeating over and over again: Bernie can't connect with black people, "struggling mightily", instead of showing what really went down.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
3. No kidding
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:19 PM
Dec 2015

If this weren't an election season people would be praising Bernie for what he did today. Anything for a victory, right?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
5. These issues deserve focus. Bernie stands up for working class people
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015

That's what we need. He was right to answer the way he did.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
12. Someone spun this as: Sanders stormed off stage and escaped in a black van
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

Something like that. No you can't make it up.

The media has worse than useless. They prop up the fascist Trump and bury the progressive Sanders. And that's coming even from the so-called liberal media like MSNBC.

It's so bad.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
73. CNNClinton wanted to ruin it
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:51 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary's campaign gets all nervous when Berns goes near 'her' African American vote

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. Running for President is difficult and being President is even more difficult
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:26 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie is demonstrating that he's not up to the job.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
10. On the contrary.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:28 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie showed why he's the one for the job. He's not willing to let people's needs be ignored in the face of tragedy and fear. That is the mark of a real leader.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
16. Actually, dealing with multiple issues at once, like what he's doing...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:38 PM
Dec 2015

Is the definition of a multitasker.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
65. I bet Bernie converted some voters in Baltimore today.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:08 PM
Dec 2015

I'd bet money on that. The people at Bernie's side looked pleased. They applauded his tenacity and focus on the issues that are important to those people in that Baltimore community. I hope the msm keeps this up. People see through it. They really do.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
6. "We don't have permanent friends, we have permanent interests."
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:24 PM
Dec 2015

Something that many politicians would do well to remember.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. big media loves Mrs Clinton.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:26 PM
Dec 2015

The media moguls, talking heads, and investors will stay rich and continue their monopoly if she or a republican gets elected

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
30. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:01 PM
Dec 2015

You mean both the liberal and conservative media that has been trashing her for decades?

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
109. They will stay rich even if Bernie becomes President.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:35 AM
Dec 2015

They MIGHT not expand their wealth as aggressively as they have been able to over the past 3 to 4 decades at the expense of everyone else. Maybe. If a progressive movement can be built out of electing Bernie, and it is so worth trying very, very hard to do that.

But, in fighting for Clinton, they are trying to maintain the status quo of the past 3 to 4 decades. Accelerated income and wealth disparity with all new income and wealth going to a very elite and privileged class (with none of it going to those who desperately need it right now).

It's simply unconscionable. They are assholes every one to fight for that in light of where we are today as a nation.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
17. No Bernie did not get criticized for standing
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:39 PM
Dec 2015

up for the AA community.


And what happened was not the fault of Hillary's campaign

Own your candidate! Take responcibility

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
35. I never said he did anything wrong
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:08 PM
Dec 2015

The OP is blaming Hillary and the media

Bernie chose to do what he did. Actions have consequences. The consequences of his actions you need to own and not blame anyone else.

I saw the video and I am not attacking Bernie

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
36. Where in my OP did I mention Hillary or the media?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:14 PM
Dec 2015

In my opinion, Bernie has nothing to apologize for. In fact, those who are criticizing him for whatever they think he did wrong today are the ones who should apologize. No candidate should ever be sorry about standing up for the rights and needs of a community.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
49. I must be seeing things
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:33 PM
Dec 2015

I thought I read that it was Hillary's media attacking Bernie for standing for the AA community.

My apologies

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
59. The so-called "consequences" of this speech is that it shows why he IS the choice for president!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:37 PM
Dec 2015

If those are the "consequences" of this speech, then damn yes, he and I will own that.

If there are other "consequences" that you don't explain here, then why don't you attempt to do so, and why there is anything "negative" about what he said in this speech that the connotation of "consequences" implies, but does NOT lay out the way you said it here.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
60. The consequences are the very fact that we
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:41 PM
Dec 2015

and the press are talking about his not wanting to talk about ISIS.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
62. Oh the way that Hillary avoids talking about SO MANY THINGS like TPP, H-1B, etc.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:48 PM
Dec 2015

that affect us more directly as American workers too!

Avoider? That would be Hillary Clinton!

Bernie Sanders was trying to stay on topic in this speech on AA topics, the same way he was trying to stay on topic on immigration issues at NetRoots and on Social Security, etc. in Seattle.

If the CORPORATE media who have their own vested interests had their way, they'd distract him with a 100 different issues every speech he gave to not allow him to thoroughly address any topic of interest to the American public.

He DOES talk about ISIS in other contexts. A LOT better than Hillary is on H-1B visas for example where she hasn't talked about that issue for EIGHT F'ING YEARS!!

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
18. He did not get criticized for "standing up for the AA community"
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:41 PM
Dec 2015

What a load of baloney.

He demonstrated that he cannot answer questions about FP, so don't dare ask him or he will have a temper tantrum. That could not be more clear.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
20. Not true at all, Maggie.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

Watch the video and you'll understand where us Bernie supporters are coming from.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
28. Yes, but he STILL isn't being criticized "for standing up for the AA community"
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:00 PM
Dec 2015

That's just baloney. He is being criticized for his tantrum about FP questions. And sadly, because of that he has taken all the focus off the AA community due to his tantrum.

That's generally why pols don't permit themselves to have public tantrums.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
32. No, that's *exactly* what he's being criticized for because that's what he did
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:05 PM
Dec 2015

The subject matter of the reporter's question has nothing to do with it. The fact is, the reporter was trying to change the subject away from the AA community, and Bernie was not having any of it. The media talks about ISIS all day long and they have been for a month. Bernie has talked about ISIS numerous times on multiple formats. Today was supposed to be a day for the AA community, and Bernie wanted to make sure it stayed that way.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
39. They FORCED Bernie to have a temper tantrum?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015

I have news for you, the press doesn't just ask presidents the questions they want asked. How naïve to think that is how it works. No one forced Bernie to have a temper tantrum, and now the story is about that. Because of Bernie. No one else.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
42. He's passionate, what else is there to say?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:23 PM
Dec 2015

The guy doesn't like media games and he's not afraid to express it. I don't blame him at all.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
47. The way Bernie reacted could hardly be described as a "tantrum"
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:29 PM
Dec 2015

Tantrums are something 2 year olds go through when they don't get what they want. Bernie was forceful, sure, but hardly out of line. If you haven't watched the video already I suggest you do.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
48. Sure looked like one to me
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:32 PM
Dec 2015

And it looked enough like one that many news articles were written about it. So I think you may have blinders on for this one.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
54. Considering that I actually saw what those stores are talking about
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:41 PM
Dec 2015

I'd say that my eyes are wide open.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
66. He didn't have a temper tantrum.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

I have a young daughter. Trust me, I know what a temper tantrum is and pointing out to the media that the people there didn't come to talk about ISIS before waving and walking away is NOT a temper tantrum.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
70. Bernie did not have a temper tantrum...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:34 PM
Dec 2015

...and yet you persist in spreading that lie.

Says more about you than it does about Bernie, that's for sure.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
69. There was no temper tantrum...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:33 PM
Dec 2015

...and all of you who keep saying there was, just look silly. And a little desperate.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
29. Media doesn't seem to cotton to being told what to do. He put up a big red flag. Anyone would face
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:00 PM
Dec 2015

The same thing if they did what Bernie did.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
71. Yes, how dare his campaign...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:36 PM
Dec 2015

...honor the request of the pastors they were meeting with, to ask the press not to ask questions about ISIS at this particular meeting.

So which candidate is it, again, who respects the black community more? Because it sure looks like the Clinton supporters here would rather his campaign ignored the priorities of his hosts.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
74. Quit blaming everyone else. Sanders did it, with lack of something. He demanded.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:53 PM
Dec 2015

It was a stupid demand to make. It was a given media was just flagged to be sure to speak up. It was a poor decision on his part drawing a line for the media. In business it would be a fail. As a parent? You would be a fool to try that with the kid. Sanders needed to be smarter handling media. That would also be a given with world leaders. If this is an example of Sanders ability to lead, it was a fail.

It isn't everyone else's fault.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
75. See, here's the thing...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:00 PM
Dec 2015

...I personally saw the video, first the clip at the end when the ISIS question came up, and then the whole thing. And I saw nothing but goodness from Bernie in that video. So I don't think it hurts him at all. Therefore, I am not blaming "the work" (whatever that means), nor am I blaming his press manager or the ministers who asked that his campaign make that request to the press. I think it worked out pretty well for Bernie.

My complaint is with all the spin-meisters here at DU and elsewhere, who are misrepresenting the event (He threw a tantrum, he stormed out, etc...) and who are trying to cast it as a negative for him. This is especially ironic, since he was there to talk about issues that disproportionately affect the AA community, and the Hillary supporters have been so vocal over the last few months, claiming that Bernie has no connection with the black community. Now, when he tries (successfully) to keep focus on their issues, all of the sudden that is the absolute worst move he could have made.

Y'all can't have it both ways. Your attempts to spin this are laughable.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
95. Ah, I see the problem now...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:09 PM
Dec 2015

...you are confused. See, I am not the OP. I was responding to a specific post of yours. And oddly enough, I kind of expected that if you were responding to ME, then you would be responding to MY points. It's a simple enough concept.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
102. What falsehood?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:23 PM
Dec 2015

Here is the entirety of my post that you were responding to:

Yes, how dare his campaign...

...honor the request of the pastors they were meeting with, to ask the press not to ask questions about ISIS at this particular meeting.

So which candidate is it, again, who respects the black community more? Because it sure looks like the Clinton supporters here would rather his campaign ignored the priorities of his hosts.


Please point out the falsehood, either direct or implied. Thanks.
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
31. LOL. Yeah, he's getting criticized for "standing up for the AA community".
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:03 PM
Dec 2015

That is an actual thought you had?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
40. He's getting criticized for insisting that it not be ignored, yes
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:21 PM
Dec 2015

The press loves to fixate ion the sensational story of the day or week or month, and ignore everything else. And most poluituicians go along like good little poodles.

Suddenly it's all about fighting terror. As if suddenly AA's and the problems of poverty no longer exist. "That was sooooo last week."

And Berinie is saying NO to that mentality.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
43. So if Hillary had a tantrum because they asked about emails
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:24 PM
Dec 2015

You would say that is fine, and justify her tantrum? LOL! Hell no, his supporters would have 45 threads going about it.

How naïve to think a candidate can dictate the presses questions.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
51. You keep posting that, but I have zero idea what you're trying to say
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:35 PM
Dec 2015

You've posted it in response to me in several threads. It means nothing to me (in case you think it does).

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
52. Can't remember your own candidate's statements?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:37 PM
Dec 2015

How about "Her speech will be her interview"? Remember that one?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
81. Oh, more right wing web sites
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:24 PM
Dec 2015

I got it now. LOL! But I thought you guys were against using right wing web sites? Wasn't it just Saturday that you all had a meltdown over it?

IOKYABSS

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
84. Google is a right-wing web site now?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:30 PM
Dec 2015

Google.

Seriously. Google. A search engine. You're claiming it's a right-wing website.

Are you trying to do some sort of Third-Way Manny character or something? You can't possibly be this poorly informed.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
86. No, but all the links that come up are
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:32 PM
Dec 2015

So that means it's a right wing talking point, wouldn't you agree?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
88. So yes, you are sticking with your claim that Google is a right-wing website.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:38 PM
Dec 2015


So...aaaallllllll the way to the second link on the first search is YouTube. Is that a right-wing web site now?
How 'bout ABC news. They're also on the first page of the first search. They're a right-wing web site now?
And we better warn all the people at the Daily Kos that they're now on a right-wing web site. After all, it's on the first page of the second search.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
85. Keeping track of what your chosen candidate has said is so hard!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:31 PM
Dec 2015

Especially with the constantly-changing positions!

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
87. I think you're lashing out because Bernie got berned today
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:35 PM
Dec 2015

That seems to be going around today.

You should try and remember, neither Clinton or her supporters force him to make gaffes and showcase his reluctance to talk about certain issues. That's all on Bernie. He's just not a good campaigner because this is the first time he has been out of the Vermont bubble.

Please stop going off on Clinton when the issue has nothing to do with her. It just looks bitter.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
89. And I don't think I'm going to listen much to someone who claims Google is a right-wing website.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:39 PM
Dec 2015

Nor has even the faintest clue about what the candidate she is so devoted to said.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
91. Click your own link - National Review, Washington Times
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:46 PM
Dec 2015

It shows that you have adopted a smear on her that is all the rage on right wing web sites. Are you not embarrassed by that at all?

I think you should be.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
92. ABC news, CNN, BBC, WaPo, TPM, DKos....
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:51 PM
Dec 2015

I'm just wondering how long it will be before you actually read what Clinton said.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
98. Clinton said a right-wing smear about herself?!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:17 PM
Dec 2015

One's a direct quote from Clinton, one's a direct quote from Clinton's campaign.

Entertainingly, you posted about both quotes at the time each one was said.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
100. Whatever, dude
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:20 PM
Dec 2015

No one cares but you and some right wing media outlets. I guess you think it's some devastating gotcha, but I can't imagine why.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
101. Nah, I'm entertained at just how little you know about your own candidate.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:22 PM
Dec 2015

And what insane things you'll say to deflect.

Google and YouTube are now right-wing sources.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
108. They hate Bernie and liberals. They don't care about Hillary.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:00 AM
Dec 2015

They are here for one reason and it is not to support Hillary.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
112. Haha...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:34 PM
Dec 2015

You have the patience of a saint.

When they call their own candidate's words right wing talking points, well then I might have to start believing them!

.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
94. Aren't you the one who posted a right wing source?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:07 PM
Dec 2015

And then backtracked claiming you were just trolling?

You got no credibility.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
96. Yeah, with a mainstream source to back it up
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:13 PM
Dec 2015

I am just so sick of these right wing links here that I thought it would be good to get you all on record as having a fit about them when used with Bernie.

I had to burn a hide because you all got so pissed at getting caught. But it was totally worth it.

Here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251876329

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
107. Right. When you used a right wing source, argue repeatedly
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:58 PM
Dec 2015

it was okay because it was factual. Then you finally found an alternative source, after searching to cover your ass.

Then, to save what face you have left, you claimed you were just trolling the board. It was all a big set-up, well planned trolling effort. Your face saving was to admit to being a disruptor on this board.

Yeah, I remember that thread.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
79. That's a pretty awesome video to me, especially the end... only thing he missed...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:21 PM
Dec 2015

Was he forgot to drop the mic at the end.

But damn.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
83. Bernie is awesome. This is why we love him.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:26 PM
Dec 2015

The media has got to get it's shit together. They are terrorizing the populace.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
103. Fantastic...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:44 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie was absolutely perfect the way he handled the press here. I think he gained quite a bit of support because of this.

The H supporters know it and that's why they're in such a tizzy.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
104. Disadvantaged PEOPLE and communities matter to Senator Bernie Sanders! ...Fuck all that other noise.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:56 PM
Dec 2015

He positively exudes leadership!

gordyfl

(598 posts)
105. Bernie Proves (again) why He is the Right Candidate for 2016.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:14 PM
Dec 2015

I watched it. When the ISIS question came up (at the 11 minute mark) Bernie gave the answer that I would like to hear from my candidate.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
111. Not *for* doing it. But for something else that happened *while* doing it.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

There's a difference. (But, you knew that already.)

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