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if Baltimore wasn't the right time, when is Sanders' big national security speech? (Original Post) hill2016 Dec 2015 OP
Crappy OP. Agschmid Dec 2015 #1
Thanks for your intellectual honesty Armstead Dec 2015 #12
With a history like your candidate's, maybe you shouldn't mention 3am phone calls. mmk? n/t JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #2
I suspect as SOS she took lots of 3 am phone calls from Obama. leftofcool Dec 2015 #3
deflect deflect JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #5
Good answer! Cha Dec 2015 #23
Never firebrand80 Dec 2015 #4
You don't think ISIS is an important enough topic to warrant a major speech? Interesting. n/t JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #6
That's not what I'm saying firebrand80 Dec 2015 #8
Absolutely not. morningfog Dec 2015 #16
Unrec PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #7
There won't be any. RandySF Dec 2015 #9
The real question is when, if ever, will Ron Green Dec 2015 #10
He's not ignoring the issue.. ljm2002 Dec 2015 #11
Wait until he can connect ISIS with income inequality. n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #13
well he connected it to climate change hill2016 Dec 2015 #17
Clown car Media tries to pass him the right wing terror crack pipe AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #19
When there is a terror attack in the US cosmicone Dec 2015 #20
And not just any meltdown AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #21
ummmm yeah whatever n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #22
The Ari Fleischer comparison is eery. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #33
Read what I was responding to AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #35
Oh indeed. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #36
I dare you to elaborate on your comparing that DU'ers post to Ari Fleischer's speech. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #39
Fleischer didn't make speeches AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #41
O'Malley has already done that. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #34
Whoa it's like Fox News 2.0 jkbRN Dec 2015 #14
Do you really want to talk about 3am phone calls ? Truprogressive85 Dec 2015 #15
Bernie doesn't smoke the neocon 'Terror!' crack AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #18
Never MaggieD Dec 2015 #24
Bernies not ready to be POTUS workinclasszero Dec 2015 #25
In your mind, that is! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #28
This is exactly what Hillary said about Obama in 2008. CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #30
Are we at risk of being invaded? arcane1 Dec 2015 #26
Hw is not ignoring the subject, darkangel218 Dec 2015 #27
Ummmm...those "3 a.m. Call" ads were a dismal failure CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #29
Just 'cause you keep digging doesn't mean you're going to find gold. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #31
When is the right time to talk about poverty? Housing? Infrastructure? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #32
Fail. Unrec. n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #37
Baltimore would have been the worst place to give such a "speech". KittyWampus Dec 2015 #38
+1 Hepburn Dec 2015 #40
March 2 Freddie Stubbs Dec 2015 #42
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
12. Thanks for your intellectual honesty
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:39 AM
Dec 2015

It would be helpful if we all could do more than knee-jerk responses, and instead actually criticize posts of those who support our candidates when they deserve criticism too.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
8. That's not what I'm saying
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:12 AM
Dec 2015

I'm say that it's unlikely that Bernie wins any new voters by doing so.

He's obviously not as comfortable talking about those issues as he is talking about his economic platform. Also, it's not as though he's going to convince people that don't already support him that he's as capable as Hillary on these issues. So what would he gain at this point by doing so? He's gotten this far by staying on message, may as well stay the course.

RandySF

(58,768 posts)
9. There won't be any.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:12 AM
Dec 2015

Don't forget that the Sabders campaign blew a gasket just before the last debate because the moderator added a question about Paris.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
10. The real question is when, if ever, will
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:31 AM
Dec 2015

most people figure out the "keep us safe" talk is unexamined crap, and the real issue is rejecting the fear and looking at real issues.

I am glad that at least one candidate isn't buying into the hysteria of you and the Republicans.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
19. Clown car Media tries to pass him the right wing terror crack pipe
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:35 AM
Dec 2015

He doesn't take the bait. Hillary supporters suffer a meltdown. Hilarity ensues!

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
20. When there is a terror attack in the US
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:38 AM
Dec 2015

a Presidential candidate has a DUTY to address people's fears and provide solutions. Not run away.

That is what "being Presidential" is all about. Sanders is just not ready. Perhaps he will be ready in about 10 years.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
21. And not just any meltdown
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:45 AM
Dec 2015

But a NEOCON meltdown! You sound like Ari Fleischer circa 2003. Hilarious!

Sorry, I don't partake in war criminal inspired terrorist fear mongering. I will never smoke that crack.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
39. I dare you to elaborate on your comparing that DU'ers post to Ari Fleischer's speech.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:08 AM
Dec 2015

You won't though.

You apparently have no shame.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
41. Fleischer didn't make speeches
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:28 AM
Dec 2015

He used terrorism as a propaganda tool to instill fear and stifle dissent. Neocon 101.

I don't smoke from the 'Be afraid, be very afraid TERROR!!' crack pipe. Never will. You see, this sort of thing works on right wingers because they tend to have enlarged amygdala which controls emotions and fear. Liberals? Not so much.

Right wing brain left wing brain

Hope that clears it up for ya.

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
15. Do you really want to talk about 3am phone calls ?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:41 PM
Dec 2015

lets be wise here

Those 3am ads failed! The people choose Obama over Clinton despite her those ads

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
18. Bernie doesn't smoke the neocon 'Terror!' crack
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:28 AM
Dec 2015

Nor does he kiss the ass of the bought and sold, corporate clown car media.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. This is exactly what Hillary said about Obama in 2008.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:53 AM
Dec 2015

Didn't work then. Won't work today.

Tired ol talking point with a proven track record of failure.

Some new schtick is desperately needed.

How about, "Bernie eats lima beans with this hands."

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
29. Ummmm...those "3 a.m. Call" ads were a dismal failure
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:46 AM
Dec 2015

No one bought that nonsense. Obama did win that election, no?

I doubt that someone would actually try to position Bernie as someone who can't handle national security issues--simply because, for one event, he wanted to stay focused on domestic issues our of respect for the pastors with whom he was meeting.

No one would really suggest something so silly, right?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
32. When is the right time to talk about poverty? Housing? Infrastructure?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:38 AM
Dec 2015

Because the MSM are hell-bent (Hill-bent?) on ignoring those issues. That doesn't mean they aren't urgent.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
38. Baltimore would have been the worst place to give such a "speech".
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:02 AM
Dec 2015

Honestly, your OP comes across as intentionally inflammatory.

It makes no sense.

It's almost as if you don't really understand the situation or dynamics or politics and simply wanted to throw up inflammatory nonsense hoping it would pass as legit for a Clinton supporter.

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