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Related: About this forumMedia Blackout BOMBS As Bernie Sanders Has MORE SUPPORT Than Every GOP Candidate In Iowa

The media has been blacking out the message of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, but the numbers dont lie. Sanders has more support in Iowa than every single Republican presidential candidate. In the new Iowa Poll released by the Des Moines Register and Bloomberg Politics, Sen. Bernie Sanders had eight points more support than the highest polling Republican presidential candidate. Sanders trailed Hillary Clinton 48%-39% in the latest poll, but his level of support was eight points higher than Ted Cruz (31%) and ten points higher than media darling Donald Trump (21%). Sen. Sanders has nearly twice the level of support that Trump has in Iowa but has gotten thirty times less coverage on the network news broadcasts. Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said, We have come a long way in Iowa since we were at 5 percent in the same poll last January and very few people knew who Bernie Sanders was or what he stood for. This poll shows there is a very clear path to victory in Iowa.
Bernie Sanders has come a long way in a very short period of time. His 80% approval rating trails Hillary Clinton by two points and President Obama by seven points. Sanders has quickly risen to be one of the most popular figures within the Democratic Party. The Sanders approval rating is higher than all of the Republican presidential candidates. Sanders approval rating is seven points higher than Ted Cruz(73%), ten points higher than Marco Rubio (70%), and 22 points higher than Donald Trump (58%). The network news decision to ignore the presidential campaign of Bernie Sanders has been a major miscalculation. Sanders has developed into one of the most popular candidates in the entire country, and he exponentially more popular than every single Republican contender that the nightly news broadcasts on ABC, NBC, and CBS waste their airtime on.
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http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12/14/media-blackout-bombs-bernie-sanders-support-gop-candidate-iowa.html
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)He's being kept off the air because he's boring. The media isn't RED and it isn't BLUE. It's GREEN. It puts out material that it's audience wants to see, in order to sell advertising.
The start of his campaign was reported. The size of his rallies was reported. His comments in the debates were reported. He's been interviewed by every network.
But if you're going to compare his coverage to Donald Trump, then the answer is to become a quotable as Donald Trump. Say something outrageous; get into a fight with the interviewer. Trump is good for viewers; Sanders is not.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Hillary is on top at doesn't have a serious challenger (which I don't think is good for the Party, or for Hillary as a candidate). The GOP race is far, far more interesting.
renate
(13,776 posts)But they could make it more interesting if they covered it as if it were a contest. which it is.
Admittedly there's a big difference between someone with, say, 38% support in the Republican primary and someone with 38% in the Democratic primary, because of the different number of contenders. But I don't understand shutting Bernie out completely. If the networks are making bank covering Trump, why wouldn't they want to encourage a contested race in the Democratic primary too? Obviously (from the size of Bernie's rallies and the fervor of his support) there would be a lot of interest in what he has to say.
No rational media person wants Trump to win, so assuming that there's a concerted decision to shut Bernie out because they don't want him to win doesn't make sense. It's all about making money for them, and a more suspenseful Democratic race could do that. I certainly agree with you that the GOP race is more interesting, but it doesn't have to be that way.
hedda_foil
(16,985 posts)Of COURSE he's interesting. If you want to make a decent argument about $$$$, try this one, at least: because his campaign is funded by small donors and not major donors, he won't have the kind of green the media is expecting from Hillary. And he wants to break up the big media, which they will resist with all their might.
But never mind that because you say he's boring.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)By challenging Hilarry Clinton? By taking on Wall Street? Great; he did all that in May. What's new? Trump s ALWAYS good for new material. That's why the debates have such high ratings; did you think it was an audience looking for thoughtful discourse on tax policies?
If "corporate media" was trying to protect "the establishment" the person they WOULDN'T cover is Trump; because he's to unpredictable in terms of what he'll say and what he'll do, and that's bad for business.
Omaha Steve
(109,228 posts)

Jackilope
(819 posts)That doesn't look like a snooze fest!
I find that getting to the heart of issues and not being a corporate shill is FAR from boring.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Omaha Steve
(109,228 posts)Thanks for the back up!
OS
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Here's a whole host of images for that rally and the 9 thousand plus people in attendance.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Bernie+sanders+GREENSBORO,+N.C+rally&biw=1536&bih=718&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixyYv4qN7JAhUM1B4KHbOoDxgQ_AUIBygC
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)But if it makes you feel better.....
http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/bernie-sanders-holds-rally-in-south-carolina-510594115909
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)is in no known reality a "boring old guy speaking to an empty room" I think you got pranked with that link.
Yeah there has been a media blackout in the national news. If he's somewhere local then it get's covered with a blurb, quickly glossed over.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Yea....pretty boring!....
Try telling that to these folks...


hedda_foil
(16,985 posts)He's booooring. Always talking about the same old same old ... getting the young, the old, the parents and grandparents, sons and daughters, the once mighty American middle class, back on their feet and out from under the boot of corporatists.
Got it!
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)I mean I almost passed out halfway through your paragraph.
He needs to juggle flaming chainsaws - or dress up as Elmo and pester folks in Times Square! Maybe that'll do the trick?
I've never been more excited to vote for a president in my life.
Cheers.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)It's a complete mystery why The Onion chose to satirise her like this: http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/i-am-fun-51731
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Now that is exciting!
madokie
(51,076 posts)who are watching the 'CONs debates and eating that shit is the base. That 30 % will always be there but 30% won't win this election.
No one out here in the real world where people work with their hands as well as with their hearts and heads are saying they're liking what the 'grumpy old man' has to say and a lot of them will be voting for him and you can bet on that. people are fed up with the status quo and are going to do something about it. This mans message is resonating with most everyone and its traveling faster than a wild fire in a high wind. Hide an watch and remember when I said that Bernie Sanders will be our next President.
Hillary is too polarizing and too many people are sick of her and want her to go away. What gets me is who are these people that are polled 'cause I damn sure don't see it around here. I'm in what i would consider a purple place too.
panader0
(25,816 posts)He did that years ago-- he doesn't change every time the wind blows just to try to be "interesting".
bunnies
(15,859 posts)He was way more interesting than she'll ever be. At least to those who care about normal, non-wealthy people.
Trump is good for hate and ire. What you call "new material". Unpredictability doesnt matter when bombast is involved. Bad for business? lol. Ever heard of a "reality show"? Meh.
The 1% is so out of touch.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If the media were really interested in what is going on in this country, in what is news, they would have followed every second of his tour of that area of Baltimore and the speeches that were given at that time.
Instead, they asked about ISIS.
The American media does not just not care about Bernie. They don't just neglect telling Bernie's story. They refuse to tell the story of America, of the America that is struggling to pay bills, to find jobs, to educate themselves, to feel safe.
It isn't that Bernie is boring.
It's that the media doesn't care about the American people.
The people that we see on prime-time news are overpaid, undereducated and could care less about us normal Americans.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Omaha Steve
(109,228 posts)From the OP: Network news has chosen to ignore Sen. Bernie Sanders, but his message is spreading across the country.
OS
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's posted in a series in the Bernie group.
Nothing boring about it. Nothing at all.
What is boring is watching Hillary shill for the 1%.
Hillary is the boring, expected, throw-back to the 1990s one in this race.
Sorry to have to break the news to you, but there is a reason why millenials, the young voters, prefer Bernie.
Hillary is same old, same old, boring and uncreative political doublespeak.
Too little too late. That's Hillary's plan for America.
The network news loves her because they want a Republican to win this time.
Bernie will win the heart of the country if he is the nominee.
Hillary will not.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)The ISIS question was asked by CNN. Did CNN report on Bernie's walk through the poor neiborhoods of Baltimore or talk about why he was there? The only thing that made their "news" was his "grumpy" refusal to answer the ISIS question.
CNN and the rest of the putrid crap that pawns itself as news in this country is not interested in the least about talking about the real issues affecting real Americans. They just push their tabloid schlock they think will sell.
tecelote
(5,156 posts)https://theintercept.com/2015/10/29/media-fundraisers-presidential/
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)people are in the stairways listening to him smh seriously. Hillary? now she's bori..... ahem where am I what am I doing here. can we get off this pro wall street crap
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Every week they slip a bit further into the abyss.
It's excuse making for DWS debateless Democrafic self blackout
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)To the status quo.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Hillary supporters now see Republican stupidity as 'exciting;'. lol
Chef Eric
(1,024 posts)Look how bored these people look:
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BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)That's an opinion, not a reason he's being blacked out.
There's certainly nothing more boring than hearing the same old 3rd Way triangulation, vagueness and wishy-washy prattle.
Sanders is only boring to people not really interested in what's being said, and more interested in status, familiarity, and platitudes.
Certain folks and big media may assume it's boring, but t's not.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)thebighobgoblin
(179 posts)But anger doesn't get things done. Sanders can't run the country himself. He can't work with congress.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=
&imgrefurl=http://www.secularnirvanablog.com/what-the-pundits-and-experts-fail-to-understand-about-the-bernie-sanders-phenomenon/&h=506&w=900&tbnid=BKgOcqaE__FSrM:&docid=5ZxNJRrinUAuGM&hl=en-US&ei=CmlvVrW_EeHZjgTJtauYBA&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwi17KTk19zJAhXhrIMKHcnaCkMQMwghKAUwBQHillary is a warmongering, wall street, crook.
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floriduck
(2,262 posts)Ding, ding, ding. Crock Alert! Code Crock! Please report to the nearest bullshit disposal site to cleanse yourself to prevent Crockitis!
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)It's not like millennials are an important advertising demographic or anything...
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...so, no, they're not.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Maybe because the TV doesn't want to bring them unbiased news?
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)Bernie challenges the money making power of the networks and their owners which is why he's being blacked out.
thebighobgoblin
(179 posts)If you want to know where Bernie Sanders stands, just read a Noam Chomsky novel. Or Trotsky?
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:57 AM - Edit history (1)
but from the DU buzz, I would surmise that everyone at the kiddie table on the Republican side is getting more press than Sanders, who it would seem, as second in the polls on the Democratic side, should get substantial air time. O'Malley, evidently, is being frozen out to an even greater degree.
I'm not sure I can buy your narrative that boring explains absence of air time. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I believe even Hillary suffers from a pro-Republican bias on network tv. The ownership class has their preferences, I suspect.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This is awesome.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)Showed polling that had Trump at 41%, but I believe your 21% because you use a lot of capital and bold letters.
And, I'm sure it's not relevant that you are comparing him to the people he isn't running against and ignoring the fact that he is 9 points behind his actual opponent.
INdemo
(7,024 posts)the Iowa Caucus,then Hillary, the campaigner that she is, with all that support finished third.
I believe Bernie Sanders is going to win Iowa and NH and for Hillary it will be 2008 all over again.
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)SC comes after Iowa and NH, and Clinton is ahead 3:1 and appears to be on track for about 80 of the African American vote, so people may forget the first two if they are close or, especially, if it's Clinton's third straight win.
Eric J in MN
(35,639 posts)Donald Trump is at at 41% in the latest national poll and at 28% in the latest Iowa poll.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/
demwing
(16,916 posts)the 21% is a a state poll, the 41% is a national poll.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)needs to be dismantled after Bernie's elected. The Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated and networks rebooted from the ground up with ETHICAL journalists only. They should be sued for being unethical and participating in the attempted destruction of our Democracy. They're all complicit.
The man who brings all these people to his rallies is IGNORED. HRH hasn't even come close to pulling this size of crowds.
PHOENIX - 11,000
SEATTLE - 15,000
PORTLAND, OR. - 28,000
LA,CA. - 27,500
BOSTON - 33,000 WITH 4,000 OVERFLOW CROWD
TUCSON, AZ. - 13,000
BOULDER, CO. - 13,000
HOUSTON, TX. - 5,200
DALLAS, TX. - 8,000
There's even more rallies, with numbers just as impressive, but the graphic is on my computer.
Bernie WILL win the nomination. The CORPORATE OWNED CORRUPT MSM, will be put in their place. They aren't as powerful as they think they are. Bernie owns the Internet and his supporters are MASSIVELY MOTIVATED.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
INdemo
(7,024 posts)they were talking about Trump's numbers vs Cruz's in Iowa.they talked about Trump for a solid 10 minutes and i had to change the channel couldn't take the BS anymore. Just out of curiosity went to Faux same thing.
Oh and on morning Joe same thing and they inserted Hillary vs Trump (Bernies poll numbers) but didn't mention Bernie defeats them all.
I think its going to be great with Bernie winning the nomination then Govt appropriated funds to defeat the Koch Bro's..
Wow now thats what I call taking our country back.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)always that same thing? Yep. I know who I'm voting for, he's said enough for me. I don't have to constantly listen for the next nuance, or shifting position, or yada yada yada.
He's said it, he'll do his best to do it and pretty much nothing will change between now and GE time.
I like boring and thoughtful and seasoned and reasoned and those old fashioned things. I can see him fitting in with world leaders, holding up hands in victory. I won't have to worry that our nation will be embarrassed by his antics.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)jalan48
(14,914 posts)so 1930's. Come on Bernie, talk about something interesting!
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)with trepedation. What's with the ALL CAPS in (seemingly) random words? I'm not trying to be insulting; I really am curious. I see this all the time in the titles of Sanders-related threads and I simply don't understand it. Is it some kind of code? Because it really is unusual. Unless you're trying to emulate those very annoying email subjects from the DNC (hope not!) Thanks.
erronis
(23,877 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Not a surprising "response." Thanks.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts). So of course none of them have numbers as high as our candidates.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts)....eh.
Bernie Sanders thinks he deserves more media coverage. Eh
http://wapo.st/1Z5g0yc
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)despite the pathetic attempts of m$m to keep their lock on their greedy consumption.
can't wait to see him take on tRump
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)So basically, Hillary is still the better candidate going by the numbers?
Hey look, I'm glad Bernie is more popular than all Republicans. He should be. So should MO'M.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I don't see them. I figure if you're trying to make a case for Bernie's electability numbers, versus his current opponent, you wouldn't not just bury the lead, but actually cite it.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)NAO
(3,425 posts)This does not surprise me...they don't want/won't let Bernie to get a fair shot.
But, What can we do to remedy this? Is there a channel or method to contact the news outlets and complain? Or what...???
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,957 posts)but some of their headlines are overly bombastic- and being more popular than the current Republican candidates is a pretty low bar to clear IMHO.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Go Bernie!
Go Berners!
LiberalLovinLug
(14,689 posts)
Like Bush, Hillary Clinton has sometimes struggled to find substantial crowds on the campaign trail, such as this event Thursday in Laconia, NH
thebighobgoblin
(179 posts)Bernie Sanders is unelectable. He has no support, except in the imagination of some.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Media blackout.
Not so much.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It is no accident that no reporter has latched onto it and made it the central story in the campaign coverage.
That in and of itself suggests that we are no longer a democracy. That the unexpected and sudden rise like Bernie's in the polls following crowds of 27,000 in stadiums for speeches and so little prime-time news coverage of that story?
Something stinks in our media. Smells like putrid fish.
This is strange.