2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMost Bernie Sanders voters OK with Hillary Clinton winning
Bernie Sanders grabbed headlines when a recent poll showed him with a 10-point lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, but nationally, the former secretary of State is still way, way, way ahead of the Vermont senator.
Clinton has 59% support among Democrats, compared with Sanders 26 %, according to a Monmouth University Poll released Wednesday. Former Maryland governor Martin O'Malley is well back at 4%.
Whats more, a majority of Sanders supporters 59 % said they would be OK if Clinton bested their candidate and won the Democratic nomination.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/16/bernie-sanders-voters-hillary-clinton-poll/77414862/
An accurate reflection, of this election.
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Matariki
(18,775 posts)woodsprite
(12,024 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Unthinkable.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)DU's scorched earth "Hillary is a Republican" nonsense is thankfully representative only of a fringe echo chamber not the real world. I can never quite decide whether it's funny or embarrassing that this place just cannot grasp how far from the norm its general zeitgeist is.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The fringe Bernie backers own this place, not the majority Bernie backers who are voting democratic in the GE regardless of who the candidate is.
Real glad to see this!
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)I don't think he's a towering hero of the left and she's a Thatcherite quisling like much of GD seems to. He just speaks more forthrightly and has better ideas about the things I personally care about most. However I fully realise a POTUS has to care about things that matter little to me, and has to compomise even in those that do matter. Clinton undoubtedly has strengths there that will be necessary. I wish a combination were possible, but we don't get to Frankenstein our candidates and I'm fine with that.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)BS, MOM and Hillary absolutely TOWER above the slime that crawls out of the republican hate swamp to assault America from the white house!
I will not hesitate one second casting a ballot for any of the democratic candidates who win the parties nomination.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)OK as in won't fall into an endless depression. OK as in I don't really care or OK because I know that things will always be OK. Pretty sure that the three voters in this household would not be OK. Just saying.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...and that will get you next to nothing because we have a state-by-state primary system.
The first state of Iowa, Sanders is within nine points, with plenty of time to go in Iowa. The second state, NH, he's ahead by 10.
Didn't you guys pay attention to these dynamics in 2008? Clinton was ahead in every national poll, until March of 2008. Those national polls got her nothing and a free bowl of soup.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)The dynamics this time around are totally different. You are setting your self up for a big disappointment.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Count me in that crowd.
But the fact that almost half would not be okay is a problem for Hillary.
It is smart strategy to vote for Bernie in the primary. If he wins, then things change and we have a shot at the Senate and even the House and we all win.
If Hillary wins, then things stay the same and only Hillary wins.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)These folks are in no way representative of those who will vote for Bernie in the primaries and caucuses, and then will vote for Hillary in the general election. unless of course they prefer Trump, Cruz or Rubio.
In addition, Trump and Cruz are the most likely nominees on the Republican side. If that comes to past, there are a number of conventional Republicans who would rather sacrifice the election than have one of those idiots win the Presidency and ruin their Party's chances to win again the White House for the next 20 years or so.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)with Bernie winning. Both candidates have great aspects.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I think we're lucky to have three great candidates from which to choose.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I'd vote for Bernie too if he wins the nomination.
Anyone that sits home or writes in a fantasy candidate in the general is a de facto republican that wants to see the world burn.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Voters that ussually vote democratic will continue to do so.
Tote Life
(72 posts)because he's a recent convert?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)what Democrats do.
She's far above any candidate from the Republican pack. And I take comfort in knowing that all three of our candidates...I sincerely hope O'Malley gets the VP nod...are reasonable, experienced, and capable public servants who will do us proud.
I wish O'Malley could have caught on...don't know why he didn't. His presence, his record, his good looks (yes, they count) and his sincerity really struck me. Maybe next time.
As for the Republicans, well, they made their bed and are now going to have to lie (as in lay down) in it. Sometimes proper grammar looks funny.
That's better than one side having to "eat crow" after the Primary.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)O'Malley didn't catch on, either.
I'm in full agreement with your post, except for me it's Hillary first. Whoever wins the Democratic Nomination will have my vote.
Hun Joro
(666 posts)This happened when she ran against BO also. When I listen to Hillary, I find I don't hate her. She's not my guy, but she's not horrible mostly. Her supporters here aren't doing her many favors.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)or the Oklahoma City Thunder, so I don't watch basketball anymore. Sheesh.
On Edit: just root for Bernie, K?
Hun Joro
(666 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Hun Joro
(666 posts)It's not about thinking for myself; I'm perfectly capable of that and have been doing it for more than half a century. It's an emotional response to the arrogant and rude way some people present here. And I haven't based any decision on this emotion, but it's there.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)It's silly when folks say that about Hillary Supporters or when they say it about Bernie Supporters.
Just silly.
You're voting for the candidate, not their supporters.
Supporters or detractors of any candidate have no influence on my vote at all.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Thank you, KMOD.
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Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Very happily!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I just can't vote for her.
If she wins, fine.
randys1
(16,286 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)The Hillarians just cannot fathom that committed and dedicated progressives don't want the Democratic nominee for President to be a center-right corporate establishment type.
Hillary Clinton is going to have a tough time winning.
The Democrats have a very good and much better alternative.
randys1
(16,286 posts)And destruction.
I am simply amazed that people who think they are liberals could even suggest allowing a Cruz presidency
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)is the nominee. Hillary's support is clearly a mile wide and an inch deep. You compare that with the burning desire of the Republican supporters - especially the Trump and Cruz supporters to win. Plus the raw and usually irrationally blind hatred that even relatively mainstream Republicans have for Hillary which will galvanize them to the polls in droves. The simple reality is that few people who might describe themselves as Hillary supporters - outside of a bubble of heavily partisan supporters - are very enthusiastic at all. It is hard to get people excited over the status quo with a few tweaks.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Emotions run high in the primaries. Well in the general too, but at least Democrats all rally 'round against Camp Crazy.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)They didn't ask: Would you vote for her?
A Bernie Sanders supporter can be unsatisfied if she becomes the nominee, but still vote for her to keep a Republican out of the White House.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)alternatives. I get that and so do most Bernie supporters.
It is just that she will largely represent the status quo. While Bernie is the only social-democrat in the race with something of a viable campaign and social democracy is the last best hope for our country and our world.
Cha
(300,933 posts)cares about our Planet and its environment.
Mahalo K!
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
KMOD
(7,906 posts)You will find that only 5% would be disappointed with Hillary being the nominee.
Does that make you feel better?