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KMOD

(7,906 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:37 PM Dec 2015

Most Bernie Sanders voters OK with Hillary Clinton winning

Bernie Sanders grabbed headlines when a recent poll showed him with a 10-point lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, but nationally, the former secretary of State is still way, way, way ahead of the Vermont senator.

Clinton has 59% support among Democrats, compared with Sanders’ 26 %, according to a Monmouth University Poll released Wednesday. Former Maryland governor Martin O'Malley is well back at 4%.

What’s more, a majority of Sanders supporters — 59 % — said they would be OK if Clinton bested their candidate and won the Democratic nomination.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/16/bernie-sanders-voters-hillary-clinton-poll/77414862/

An accurate reflection, of this election.

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Most Bernie Sanders voters OK with Hillary Clinton winning (Original Post) KMOD Dec 2015 OP
Raises hand... Matariki Dec 2015 #1
Love your sig line! n/t woodsprite Dec 2015 #2
The alternative to Sanders or Clinton is the Return of Hastur. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #3
Yep I qualify whatthehey Dec 2015 #4
This place is so unreal workinclasszero Dec 2015 #11
Oh I'd certainly prefer Sanders, but not by as huge a margin as many here whatthehey Dec 2015 #18
We all have our favorite candidate but workinclasszero Dec 2015 #20
A very reasonable approach - I like your style (n/w) CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #35
With 41 percent of those polled being sane. peace13 Dec 2015 #5
You should leave the defining of others sanity to the professionals. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #8
She's winning in all national polls... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #6
I case you haven't noticed, this isn't 2008 CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #36
59 percent will hold their nose Android3.14 Dec 2015 #7
Nah, for one think DU has been a magnet for the most zealous Sanders supporters CajunBlazer Dec 2015 #38
And this Hillary supporter would be perfectly fine Codeine Dec 2015 #9
I'm still undecided. cwydro Dec 2015 #34
Well that's good to know workinclasszero Dec 2015 #10
We went through the nonsense in '08 firebrand80 Dec 2015 #12
Even those who think that Bernie is not a Democrat Tote Life Dec 2015 #31
Bernie first, but Hillary as a back up choice ... I'm a Democrat and that's what libdem4life Dec 2015 #13
Yeah, I really don't understand why KMOD Dec 2015 #14
The Hillary supporters here make me dislike Hillary. Hun Joro Dec 2015 #15
Can't think for yourself? That's like, My neighbors don't like the San Francisco Warriors libdem4life Dec 2015 #19
Wow. Thanks. Seems a less rude response might have been possible. Hun Joro Dec 2015 #22
Consider this an apology...you're right. libdem4life Dec 2015 #24
Thank you. And perhaps I didn't state my case very well. Hun Joro Dec 2015 #32
That's silly. bigwillq Dec 2015 #27
Another example of how DU does not represent reality within the Democratic party Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #16
Yup. KMOD Dec 2015 #17
Oh, well, I'm in a minority of 41%. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #21
So am I Pastiche423 Dec 2015 #37
About as okay as having to choose drinking very sour milk over a glass of GOP Draino Armstead Dec 2015 #23
I'm OK with Hillary winning. bigwillq Dec 2015 #25
K&R mcar Dec 2015 #26
VERY VERY troubled it is only 59%, pisses me off actually randys1 Dec 2015 #28
A huge enthusiasm gap. earthside Dec 2015 #29
If you dont vote for her if she is the nominee, you will be voting for death. randys1 Dec 2015 #30
one can't help but worry about the enthusiams gap if Secretary Clinton Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #41
I expect that will change if she's our candidate in the general election Matariki Dec 2015 #33
They asked: Would you be "satisfied" with Clinton as the nominee? Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #43
Okay in the sense that she would be 1000 better than any of the GOP Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #39
Cool.. outside the bubble. I know my son will be glad to vote for Hillary. But, then he actually Cha Dec 2015 #40
I define "most" as 2/3 or more. Not 59%. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #42
Fine. If you click the link to the poll, KMOD Dec 2015 #44

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
4. Yep I qualify
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:51 PM
Dec 2015

DU's scorched earth "Hillary is a Republican" nonsense is thankfully representative only of a fringe echo chamber not the real world. I can never quite decide whether it's funny or embarrassing that this place just cannot grasp how far from the norm its general zeitgeist is.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. This place is so unreal
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:04 PM
Dec 2015

The fringe Bernie backers own this place, not the majority Bernie backers who are voting democratic in the GE regardless of who the candidate is.

Real glad to see this!

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
18. Oh I'd certainly prefer Sanders, but not by as huge a margin as many here
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:15 PM
Dec 2015

I don't think he's a towering hero of the left and she's a Thatcherite quisling like much of GD seems to. He just speaks more forthrightly and has better ideas about the things I personally care about most. However I fully realise a POTUS has to care about things that matter little to me, and has to compomise even in those that do matter. Clinton undoubtedly has strengths there that will be necessary. I wish a combination were possible, but we don't get to Frankenstein our candidates and I'm fine with that.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. We all have our favorite candidate but
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:29 PM
Dec 2015

BS, MOM and Hillary absolutely TOWER above the slime that crawls out of the republican hate swamp to assault America from the white house!

I will not hesitate one second casting a ballot for any of the democratic candidates who win the parties nomination.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
5. With 41 percent of those polled being sane.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:51 PM
Dec 2015

OK as in won't fall into an endless depression. OK as in I don't really care or OK because I know that things will always be OK. Pretty sure that the three voters in this household would not be OK. Just saying.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. She's winning in all national polls...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:51 PM
Dec 2015

...and that will get you next to nothing because we have a state-by-state primary system.

The first state of Iowa, Sanders is within nine points, with plenty of time to go in Iowa. The second state, NH, he's ahead by 10.

Didn't you guys pay attention to these dynamics in 2008? Clinton was ahead in every national poll, until March of 2008. Those national polls got her nothing and a free bowl of soup.




CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
36. I case you haven't noticed, this isn't 2008
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:01 PM
Dec 2015

The dynamics this time around are totally different. You are setting your self up for a big disappointment.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
7. 59 percent will hold their nose
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:54 PM
Dec 2015

Count me in that crowd.


But the fact that almost half would not be okay is a problem for Hillary.

It is smart strategy to vote for Bernie in the primary. If he wins, then things change and we have a shot at the Senate and even the House and we all win.

If Hillary wins, then things stay the same and only Hillary wins.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
38. Nah, for one think DU has been a magnet for the most zealous Sanders supporters
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:09 PM
Dec 2015

These folks are in no way representative of those who will vote for Bernie in the primaries and caucuses, and then will vote for Hillary in the general election. unless of course they prefer Trump, Cruz or Rubio.

In addition, Trump and Cruz are the most likely nominees on the Republican side. If that comes to past, there are a number of conventional Republicans who would rather sacrifice the election than have one of those idiots win the Presidency and ruin their Party's chances to win again the White House for the next 20 years or so.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
9. And this Hillary supporter would be perfectly fine
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:57 PM
Dec 2015

with Bernie winning. Both candidates have great aspects.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
34. I'm still undecided.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:52 PM
Dec 2015

I think we're lucky to have three great candidates from which to choose.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. Well that's good to know
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:00 PM
Dec 2015

I'd vote for Bernie too if he wins the nomination.

Anyone that sits home or writes in a fantasy candidate in the general is a de facto republican that wants to see the world burn.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
13. Bernie first, but Hillary as a back up choice ... I'm a Democrat and that's what
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:21 PM
Dec 2015

what Democrats do.

She's far above any candidate from the Republican pack. And I take comfort in knowing that all three of our candidates...I sincerely hope O'Malley gets the VP nod...are reasonable, experienced, and capable public servants who will do us proud.

I wish O'Malley could have caught on...don't know why he didn't. His presence, his record, his good looks (yes, they count) and his sincerity really struck me. Maybe next time.

As for the Republicans, well, they made their bed and are now going to have to lie (as in lay down) in it. Sometimes proper grammar looks funny.

That's better than one side having to "eat crow" after the Primary.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
14. Yeah, I really don't understand why
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:56 PM
Dec 2015

O'Malley didn't catch on, either.

I'm in full agreement with your post, except for me it's Hillary first. Whoever wins the Democratic Nomination will have my vote.

Hun Joro

(666 posts)
15. The Hillary supporters here make me dislike Hillary.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:03 PM
Dec 2015

This happened when she ran against BO also. When I listen to Hillary, I find I don't hate her. She's not my guy, but she's not horrible mostly. Her supporters here aren't doing her many favors.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
19. Can't think for yourself? That's like, My neighbors don't like the San Francisco Warriors
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:44 PM
Dec 2015

or the Oklahoma City Thunder, so I don't watch basketball anymore. Sheesh.

On Edit: just root for Bernie, K?

Hun Joro

(666 posts)
32. Thank you. And perhaps I didn't state my case very well.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:53 PM
Dec 2015

It's not about thinking for myself; I'm perfectly capable of that and have been doing it for more than half a century. It's an emotional response to the arrogant and rude way some people present here. And I haven't based any decision on this emotion, but it's there.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
27. That's silly.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:41 PM
Dec 2015

It's silly when folks say that about Hillary Supporters or when they say it about Bernie Supporters.

Just silly.

You're voting for the candidate, not their supporters.

Supporters or detractors of any candidate have no influence on my vote at all.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
29. A huge enthusiasm gap.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:07 PM
Dec 2015

The Hillarians just cannot fathom that committed and dedicated progressives don't want the Democratic nominee for President to be a center-right corporate establishment type.

Hillary Clinton is going to have a tough time winning.

The Democrats have a very good and much better alternative.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
30. If you dont vote for her if she is the nominee, you will be voting for death.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:44 PM
Dec 2015

And destruction.

I am simply amazed that people who think they are liberals could even suggest allowing a Cruz presidency

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
41. one can't help but worry about the enthusiams gap if Secretary Clinton
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:59 AM
Dec 2015

is the nominee. Hillary's support is clearly a mile wide and an inch deep. You compare that with the burning desire of the Republican supporters - especially the Trump and Cruz supporters to win. Plus the raw and usually irrationally blind hatred that even relatively mainstream Republicans have for Hillary which will galvanize them to the polls in droves. The simple reality is that few people who might describe themselves as Hillary supporters - outside of a bubble of heavily partisan supporters - are very enthusiastic at all. It is hard to get people excited over the status quo with a few tweaks.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
33. I expect that will change if she's our candidate in the general election
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:54 PM
Dec 2015

Emotions run high in the primaries. Well in the general too, but at least Democrats all rally 'round against Camp Crazy.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
43. They asked: Would you be "satisfied" with Clinton as the nominee?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:09 AM
Dec 2015

They didn't ask: Would you vote for her?

A Bernie Sanders supporter can be unsatisfied if she becomes the nominee, but still vote for her to keep a Republican out of the White House.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
39. Okay in the sense that she would be 1000 better than any of the GOP
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:10 AM
Dec 2015

alternatives. I get that and so do most Bernie supporters.

It is just that she will largely represent the status quo. While Bernie is the only social-democrat in the race with something of a viable campaign and social democracy is the last best hope for our country and our world.

Cha

(294,767 posts)
40. Cool.. outside the bubble. I know my son will be glad to vote for Hillary. But, then he actually
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:51 AM
Dec 2015

cares about our Planet and its environment.

Mahalo K!

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
44. Fine. If you click the link to the poll,
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:10 AM
Dec 2015

You will find that only 5% would be disappointed with Hillary being the nominee.

Does that make you feel better?

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