Poll: Clinton crushing Sanders nationally

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Poll: Clinton crushing Sanders nationally

By Jonathan Easley at the Hill

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/263436-poll-clinton-crushing-sanders-nationally

"SNIP............

Monmouth University survey released Wednesday found Clinton with a 33-point lead, taking 59 percent support nationally over Sanders at 26 percent. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley takes 4 percent support in the poll.

Those results are essentially unchanged from the same poll in October, which found Clinton leading 57–24 in the race for the Democratic nomination.

“Clinton successfully ran the gauntlet this fall, appearing before the Benghazi Committee and outlasting the specter of a Biden candidacy,” said Monmouth pollster Patrick Murray. “She really hasn’t lost ground since then.”

Clinton has maintained a steady double-digit lead in Iowa, raising the stakes for Sanders in New Hampshire. The Vermont senator holds a 5-point lead in the Granite State, according to the RealClearPolitics average of polls.



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[2pooped2pop]

1. ok but this poll has been posted and reposted.

this is just a different title to the same thing.

[VanillaRhapsody]

5. Have you seen some of the ludicrous posts by Sanders supporters?

And you complain about this?

[riversedge]

7. so many are just plain beyond the pale.

[Cary]

32. Totally

Sociopathic replete with gaslighting.

[George II]

25. The results of the poll are still the same.

[NurseJackie]

2. It must be disappointing for Bernie to ...

... have to be fighting so hard to barely stay ahead in his own back yard.

[randys1]

3. I think Bernie is grateful to be where he is all things considered. I think he is further

than he ever expected to be and the fact that the MSM does all but ignore him, doesnt help the numbers.

The problem at DU is Hillary has been bashed all day everyday by certain folks, so Hillary supporters have shown some schadenfreude, is that what it is called? Whenever they can say something bad or seemingly bad about Bernie's numbers.

I truly believe the vast majority here who support Hillary, like Bernie, Bernie isnt the problem to most.

If you catch the way I have drifted.

[VanillaRhapsody]

8. We have been shouting "your drift" from the rooftops

They just don't seem to have any "self-awareness"....

[Cary]

30. It's the same old same old

It isn't about Bernie. They have something else going on.

[Basic LA]

40. I agree.

It's a curious thing.

[Cary]

42. I once thought that too.

But they turned out to be marginal and irrelevant. DU is not representative of anything.

[AgingAmerican]

69. Nope

The problem is you dont have much to tout Hillary with or attack Sanders with, so you go the logical fallacy route and attack his followers.

It's about as lame as it gets.

[George II]

26. Not only that, but he and his wife have been able to travel the country....

....on the largess of his supporters for the last six months.

[John Poet]

43. Hillary is a problem....

The ass-hattery of her supporters is a BIGGER problem, IMHO.

So yeah, I can relate to your point.

[VanillaRhapsody]

55. Hahahahaha...

Lame....

[NurseJackie]

67. Yes, I get it! I do. I really do.

[riversedge]

6. But they are elated he gained 2 pts--but then again--so did Hillary

[George II]

27. Here are the Huffington Pollster aggregate numbers:

October 15 - Clinton 48.8, Sanders 25.2 (Clinton +23.6)

December 13 - Clinton 54.8, Sanders 29.7 (Clinton +25.1)

That's quite a surge!

[orpupilofnature57]

4. Her and the Donald are both Crushing anything or anybody who isn't Rich or Connected . Wow

[brooklynite]

28. ...like Jeb Bush?

[orpupilofnature57]

72. Do you like gambling ?

[RoccoR5955]

9. I don't get these small sample sizes

So 227 out of the 384 people that they selected to take this poll represent a few MILLION voters.
I don't think so.
Used to be, polls had 1000, 2000 or more respondents, and they had a 5% margin of error. I believe these small sample sizes are why in recent times these polls have been wrong.
I don't care WHO the winner is in these polls, the pollsters simply are not doing enough work to get good results.
I suppose that the elections will bear out my belief.

[bl968]

24. Don't buy the Clinton hype.

This poll was 2/3rds landlines. I don't know anyone who still uses landlines who is under 60. It is a targeted poll with a desired result and they got it. While the poll states it was sponsored by the University it doesn't say who if anyone paid them to run it.

I also find it funny while most polls are showing a declining result for Clinton the same 2 or 3 come up always showing Clinton with amazingly strong results.

If these polls were accurate Clinton supporters would be crushing Sanders supporters online by a 2 to 1 ratio, she would also have a 2 to 1 audience at her events, but it's not there. If she was drawing more people than Sanders she and the media would be trumpeting it to high heaven.

They will of course express complete astonishment when Sanders takes the nomination. "We don't know how our polls got it so wrong..."

Last but not least at this point in time Barack Obama was lower in the polls than Sanders is now. It's not a done deal as much as Clinton and her supporters would like you to think it is.

[RoccoR5955]

47. I know all that

I was merely bringing up the point about sample sizes and margins of error.
Each and every poll these days is designed to get the result that the pollster wants to see.
Many do not yet believe this.
It's a pitiful shame.

[brooklynite]

63. Tell us then...what are the real numbers?

How close is Iowa? How much of a lead in New Hampshire?

[Lordquinton]

46. But scientific polls!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

49. I've worked in offices with more employees than that.

[Thinkingabout]

10. Hillary's team isn't giving up, the hard work continues and this is a requirement. Never give up.

[pangaia]

18. I guess they will just CRUSH anything that gets in the way..

I mean she has the $$$, the bought politicians, the banks, the oil companies, the media, the name recognition....

That's one reason I am for Sanders. All we have are a guy in a crumpled suit and.... people. And that's all I want.

I may be at the Alamo facing Santa Anna. And Houston maybe will or maybe won't send help, but I will stick it out. I ain't leavin'.

[Laser102]

29. Bought politicians? Hadn't heard that. Who?

[pangaia]

31. Bought by lobbiests and banks, and oil and media, and.. you name it.

I did not mean bought by Clinton.

[VanillaRhapsody]

35. Got proof of that crime?

Or is this just garden variety liable?

[Thinkingabout]

33. Many of the people working for Hillary are volunteers, where are the volunteers for Sanders?

Sanders could have volunteers out working, why doesn't he have people who are willing to work?

[pangaia]

34. WHAT ????????????

[Thinkingabout]

36. Doesn't Sanders campaign know they need a ground force to go door to door and work.

[litlbilly]

39. You're kidding right? Is this a joke? He even pays his interns $12 an hour. You can't count how

many people and volunteers Bernie has. It is huge. You guys seem to be in some sort of bubble like the people who watch fox news. Just amazing. You have to actually do some research before you make statements like that

[Thinkingabout]

41. And Hillary has people volunteering without pay, they go door to door, they register people to vote.

It is the grass roots campaign which works.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. What you can't accept is BERNIE HAS MORE.

[Thinkingabout]

51. Must not be working very well for him, Hillary volunteers are doing a good job.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

52. Right,....can't even buy beer without them trying to hand you a pamphlet....

They're EVERYWHERE!!!

[VanillaRhapsody]

37. And that's called winning.

Is that not the kind of political gravitas you want to see applied to the GE?

[lunamagica]

11. Yes, she's doing great!

HUGE K&R!

[SCantiGOP]

12. This looks about right

I am active in my state Dem party. Even the Sanders supporters at county meetings are involved in discussions about the Clinton vs GOP general election.

Bernie is my favorite Senator but he won't win the nomination and would likely lose in November if he did.

[antigop]

13. HRC's Campaign Manager: "A lot of the public polling is not very reliable"

http://time.com/3920153/bill-clinton-hillary-campaign-adviser/

Mook also dismissed recent poll numbers that suggest Hillary Clinton’s favorability numbers are slipping. According to a CNN poll published last week, 57% of Americans think the former secretary of state is not trustworthy. “A lot of the public polling is not very reliable,” Mook said. “I don’t pay a whole lot of attention to it.”

[DirtyHippyBastard]

14. What Can We Learn From National Primary Polling? Virtually Nothing.

https://reason.com/archives/2015/06/27/what-can-we-learn-from-nationa

[loudsue]

15. Who were they polling? Republicans? n/t

[DCBob]

16. This one will be difficult to unskew.

But I suspect someone from Bernie's poll police will try.

[Califonz]

17. Hilly was "crushing" Obama exactly 8 years ago

National polls mean nothing at this point.

[Notquite]

21. The best pollsters have Hillary ahead by less

About 18-20.

[VanillaRhapsody]

38. You say that like its a bad thing...

😂

[VanillaRhapsody]

64. She might as well be huh?

close only counts in horseshoes...

[VanillaRhapsody]

65. "the best pollsters"

Which are the Bernie Sanders Supporter approved polls?

The online ones???? The DU ones????

[R B Garr]

44. K & R!

[workinclasszero]

45. Hillary is way out in front

and pulling away

[Spitfire of ATJ]

48. "...average of polls..."

[Lil Missy]

53. Shhhh! His supporters here think Bernie is way ahead and HRC supporters are "shakin' in their boots"

[Alfresco]

54. She's Crushing It!

[Cha]

56. Good, I like "crushing".. with all the crap delusional crap around here. "Hillary fans wanted

harper to win".. no proof whatsoever. It's disgusting.

My proof..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1284428

Mahalo apple~

[applegrove]

58. Hey Cha!

[Cha]

59. So Happy for you, apple!

[applegrove]

60. I was out to dinner with some friends. One of them had a

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friend who lived in a low income neighbourhood and was invited to a party in the apartment below her. Who was there but Justin Trudeau himself picking up one of his kids who had a play date there. That is another reason why I love Justin: he has a combination of high energy and a strong work ethic. He is intent on staying real no matter what is on his plate. He walks the walk. He was just off a plane from Paris or something and he had time to stop off at a party. He puts all the squeeling, sniveling, lazy-assed, money hoarding, covetous, tender egoed, rich bozos to shame.

[Armstead]

57. No wonder. Because the media is shutting Sanders out

Watching the news its as if Sanders doesn't exist. The Media are doing a great job of making it appear that Clinton is already the nominee.

[brooklynite]

66. But that doesn't matter, because "nobody's paying attention until January"

Always good to have an excuse for every occasion.

[Armstead]

68. Nobody is paying attention, and the little attention there is is focused on the GOP

Not excuses. Reasons.

[Alfresco]

61. And the Nation is Crushing on Clinton. We Love Her!

[Persondem]

71. Great title. Great news. K & R nt