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[VanillaRhapsody]

1. ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Get real....

and I am FROM South Carolina!

Overtime Politics.....with a generic Wordpress site!

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. No the poll is JUST bogus

the website is hilarious....is it yours? If so...you didn't even bother to buy a template!

Look at the news page!

http://overtimepolitics.com/news/

[VanillaRhapsody]

10. Wow....I take all my poll advice from a Law Professors word press!

Did he pay for his template?

[Jester Messiah]

12. It seems you'll find any excuse to dismiss an article you don't like.

Other than, of course, the content...

[Jester Messiah]

20. Lol no. But I find it hilarious that you dismiss everyone who doesn't think as you do.

If you won't consent to hear opposing view points, it speaks of weak conviction in your own.

[upaloopa]

32. Funny how your side always tries to define everyone on our side

Your polls are bogus, your attacks on Hillary are bogus and you think we are going to be hurt by your bogus descriptions of us.

Most of this isn't even third rate.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. I was posting on two threads and got them confused...

still this Overtime "News" agency with a generic free Wordpress template....sounds SOOO professional!

[Bluenorthwest]

82. When people 'self delete' to cover their tracks, you know they are trying to cover their tracks.

When I read an exchange in which one person has voided their comments, I know that person has had their milkshake gulped down fully by their opponent.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. He or she dismissed a poll that doesn't pass scientific muster

Unless you can demonstrate the poll in question meets scientific muster it is incumbent on you to admit you were wrong, attacked a fellow denizen of this board unfairly, and withdraw your calumny against him or her.


Thank you in advance.

[Jester Messiah]

35. Calumny my arse.

The poster in question was attacking based on affiliation and presentation of information rather than any sort of fact-based or even non-fallacious basis. And since said poster has deleted posts and quit the field rather than defend the indefensible, you can withdraw your own calumny, sir.

[VanillaRhapsody]

55. bullshit....it was the crazy website that supported the nonsense that was

taken apart AFT!

[msrizzo]

74. I can't even tell who conducted the poll.

Was it the same organization or person who runs the website?

[VanillaRhapsody]

22. How so?

Professional news organizations BUY the damn Template....they are therefore UNprofessional!

You are welcome Einstein!

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. You see...I am a Web Developer by trade

and it is just standard practice that if you want to be taken seriously....and I am now assuming this IS your own site....then you spend at few tiny sheckles and buy the template! They are so damn cheap that its stupid not to!

If you cannot even be bothered to spend a little on that.....how professional can you be...

Do they write the news on the backs of cereal boxes?...OOOOPS I forgot...it seems there IS no News there

http://overtimepolitics.com/news/


Low Rent Website tries to make bogus claim about polls....news at 11!

[VanillaRhapsody]

36. Are they?

All evidence points to no!

speaking of which....are you?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Are you part of the overtimepolitics' staff?

Could you please post the demographic breakdown of your polls?


Also, did you attempt to make sure your poll is properly weighted to represent the various demographics.


thank you in advance.

[VanillaRhapsody]

43. I seriously think they do own it...

judging by how much they are protesting the site being seen as ridiculous...

[VanillaRhapsody]

17. in other words...

Those are personal sites....

[NurseJackie]

2. LOL!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Love their A + methodology

OvertimePolitics.com is a very small outfit, but we are committed to bringing the public up to date polls for places not served as heavily from other pollsters. In addition, we also poll states that are important to both the Democratic and Republican primary process (early states).

We call both landlines and cell phones at about a 3:1 ratio, however, telephone polling is a very time consuming process, the overwhelming majority of people do not even answer their phones when we call. In order to speed up the process, and get what we feel is the most important metric (“Who are you going to vote for?”) , we only ask our audience if they are planning on voting in their state’s primary, and if they are, who they are going to vote for. This process seems to have worked for our Iowa Democratic Caucus poll – Iowa poll from Selzer that was released earlier today – so we are going to stick with it.

We know it can be frustrating to our visitors because they can’t see a second preference, audience demographics, etc., which does make the margin of error higher than most polls of a similar sample size.

The site has been getting lots of emails saying our methodology is flawed, but no poll is going to be perfect. There are certainly polls out there with larger sample sizes, smaller margins of error, and weighted demographic averages, and I can assure you that CNN or the Wall Street Journal have more resources than Overtime Politics to fund these polls. We feel as though our strength will be in polling states which do not get much polling attention until right before they vote. Although the polls may not be as thorough as some of the others, we will at least be trying to get some data for you.



Thank you all,

http://overtimepolitics.com/a-word-about-our-poll-methodology/

[VanillaRhapsody]

8. Well

"telephone polling is a very time consuming"

They don't want to put any "overtime" in on that!

[VanillaRhapsody]

18. Where is this link to Yougov?

[VanillaRhapsody]

50. No I didn't....

I didn't say anything of the kind...

but I did ask you for the Yougov link that shows the same results!

[VanillaRhapsody]

53. No I didn't say that at all...

Please show me where I said that...

This is as bogus as that ridiculous poll and unprofessional website!

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. You do not understand Irony do you?

The name is "overtime" right?

[VanillaRhapsody]

60. No its perfect irony

complaining that calling phones is time consuming .....yet calling your little website "overtime politics" is ironic!

[OilemFirchen]

89. Huh?

We call both landlines and cell phones...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Why doesn't Real Clear Politics or Huffington Post include them in their averages?

Why doesn't Real Clear Politics or Huffington Post include them in their averages?


Could it be because it is more likely than not the website administrator just made the numbers up?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_presidential_primary-4167.html


http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-south-carolina-presidential-democratic-primary


lol

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. At least Gallup and Rasmussen try to replicate a random sample.

Could you please point to me where in overtimepolitics' methodology statement they replicate a random sample.


Thank you in advance.

[VanillaRhapsody]

44. and yet you tout this one!!!

You own that site don't you? Come on admit it!

Good thing you paid to have your domain private.....but that $20 template to remove the Wordpress Copyright...a bridge too far...

Is that you Rupert Murdoch?

Nobby Beach Queensland QLD 4218 AU

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. Gallup releases their methodology and much of their raw data as does Rasmussen.

Can you please point me to where overtimepolitics released their methodology and raw data.

Your site just asked the first the hundred and ninety six people they reached who they are voting for. That is literally no different than me going to the mall and asking the first three hundred and ninety six people meet who they are voting for.

[VanillaRhapsody]

49. Defending this nonsense is a bigger loser for you!

I cannot stop laughing!

[VanillaRhapsody]

63. I say your website is ridiculous

back to the drawing board!

South Carolina has and is still 10 yrs behind in technology....

But OOOPS I forgot...this website domain is registered in Australia!

[firebrand80]

7. I hear Overtime Politics also sells dietary supplements

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. You're bad

[99Forever]

23. Isn't that special? (in a childish, lame snarky way.)

Bless your heart.

Bu bye.

[fleur-de-lisa]

85. That is hilarious!

[upaloopa]

19. Bernie's ceiling is 30% just about everywhere

That's because it's the white males that make up the 30%.

[mucifer]

31. I still think 30% is far more than he would ever get in a poll.

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When he started I never thought he would get above 10% and I'm voting for him. I'm pretty sure I will vote for Hillary in the general election.

But, that said I'm not going to vote for a different candidate because the one I favor is doing poorly in the polls.

[Godhumor]

29. Oh lordy. That is just hilariously bad

Just because you randomly call some people from the phone book and assign an MOE doesn't make you a polling outfit.

Editing back to you, as I am pretty sure that is your site. Nice touch giving your own thread a rec, by the way.

[upaloopa]

38. what no random number generator? What was the population size?

With out those two thing the error factor is 100%

[Godhumor]

46. It isn't even technically a scientific poll

For a huge number of reasons.

Considering the OP's join date, his rec of his own thread and the way he is defending his OP, I'm pretty sure this is actually his own work.

I'm more than happy to walk him through proper poll methodology of her is serious about trying to do this going forward.

[VanillaRhapsody]

71. its 100% pulled out of the place where a pill won't reach!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. I have a question. The poster says he uses public records....

There are no public records for cell phone users...You have to use random dialing to reach cell phone users. Am I right?

[VanillaRhapsody]

67. Yes you are correct..

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. So how did he reach cell phone users?

So how did he or she reach cell phone users and how does he know the person he reached uses a cell phone, landline or both?

[VanillaRhapsody]

69. I don't think that they did...

its seems to be just these two nimrods from Queensland Australia's concoction....

I think they believe that all polls are just made up out of thin air...and they are just trying to prove that!

[Robbins]

41. and some tried to tell me bernie should give up on SC

what is going on is simple.the more blacks learn about bernie the more his support goes up.it's uphill struggle.

I still feel is bernie wins Iowa and NH,ans i think he can,that nevada is more likely win than SC.out of first 4 states i feel SC is one
where she is most likely to win.I feel bernie has better chance at win in nevada than SC.

I support bernie fighting In SC..and if bernie does pull off wins In Iowa and Nh he will get a boost for SC.

Hopefully since SC debate will be streamed on youtube more will see it.

[Robbins]

47. Jesus

All the replies to OP and i can't see any of them since they are on my ignore list.Clinton supports must need to trash anything not
good for them after dismissing or attacking bernie and telling us to give up

[Blue_Adept]

73. It just means you're missing the reasons as to why the poll is utterly bogus

Enjoy your blinders.

[Nyan]

77. Me too

So many replies yet i hardly see any of them

[Old Codger]

81. LOL

I see 8 replies here ..... must be some good ones

I am sure they appreciate each other...

[Gamecock Lefty]

42. SC is my Home State

(although I now live in St Louis) and no way does the Nutty Professor come close to Hillary - z-e-r-o chance.

[VanillaRhapsody]

57. NOT living in the U.S. doesn't make you one either....do YOU live there?

where are YOUR credentials?

In fact...where is this "overtimepolitics" credentials???

[VanillaRhapsody]

66. I am not touting my silly little website on Democratic Underground

then demanding credentials!

I take it still Queensland then?

[tazkcmo]

61. Worse

&quot although I now live in St Louis)" or "I used to live there so I'm an expert."

[VanillaRhapsody]

64. Do YOU live there?

My entire family is STILL there...I was just there 2 weeks ago.

How long has it been since you have traveled to the States?

[VanillaRhapsody]

72. And pretending YOU are one...doesn't make you one either

You don't have to DO polls to know when one is completely made up!

How is Queensland this time of year?

[VanillaRhapsody]

95. If you are Fred from that ridiclous website

You are touting.....you seem to think you are...

[hedda_foil]

87. Oooh! The Clinton campaign has moved on to trying to reliable Bernie. They must be really worried.

The nutty professor...how cute. Though I don't think Bernie actually looks much like this:

[brooklynite]

75. IOW, you don't trust "corporate" polls...until they show your candidate improving.

[Nyan]

76. That is astonishing

He's cut trailing numbers by half with no media help. Go Bernie!!!

[Codeine]

96. No he isn't.

This is as close to making up random numbers as you can get and still say it's a "poll."

[Godhumor]

78. Time to admit it is your website. It was registered on 10/20 of this year

There is literally no reason anyone should know about a personal site that quickly... unless it was theirs or a friend of theirs.

[moobu2]

79. Was it an internet poll?

[Nitram]

80. Look out Hillary, Bernie's still catching up! nt

[TIME TO PANIC]

86. Excellent!

Momentum problem my ass!

[OilemFirchen]

88. The entirety of the "poll":

http://overtimepolitics.com/pollingdata/OvertimePolitics.comDec10-13DemocraticPrimaryPoll-SouthCarolina.pdf

Yesterday I coudn't even spell pollster and now I are one!

[Blue_Adept]

91. At least their converted their made-up MS Word doc into a PDF

[OilemFirchen]

92. Hey... I'm convinced.

Finally a poll without all that confusing scientific mumbo-jumbo. Who has time for that?

[Blue_Adept]

93. I'll tell you who has time for that!

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[Blue_Adept]

90. The lack of critical thinking by some Bernie supporters in this thread is disheartening

From having every opposing view blocked to not looking at the poll itself and how fact-free it is, it's like we're delving deeper into Freeperland mentality here.

[workinclasszero]

94. Wow

Is this so-called poll and the outfit that did it an Onion joke or something?