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Bernie Sanders group feeling Berned over library snubBy M.D. Kittle - WisconsinWatchdog
December 17, 2015
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MILWAUKEE The Milwaukee Public Library is feeling the Bern over a campaign booking controversy.
Patrick Doyle, a Milwaukee volunteer with Bernie Sanders presidential campaign, is taking the library on N. Cramer Street to task for apparently allowing library community space for Hillary Clinton backers while rejecting a similar request from the Bernie brigade.
Join us on Saturday, December 12 at the Milwaukee Public Library (East Branch) from 10am 12noon for a phone bank session to help expand our volunteer team by reaching out to Milwaukee-based Hillary supporters, the political organization stated on its Facebook page.
Dont worry if youre new to phone banking, we will have experienced volunteers on hand to train phone bank rookies.
When Doyle requested space for similar activities in support of Sanders, he was told there was no room at the inn for his kind.
Thank you for your interest in the Meeting Spaces of the Milwaukee Public Library. Unfortunately, we are unable to accommodate your request to use Library meeting space to canvass Milwaukee. Please note the Prohibited Uses listed in our Policy, wrote library official Ahnong Vang Schacherer in an email response to Doyle.
Prohibited Uses include Money-making or commercial activities including monetary solicitation.
Fine, Doyle said. But the library, supported through tax dollars but operating mostly independent of Milwaukee government, cannot open up its space for one political campaign and not another.
Actually, any group doing campaign work at a public library raises some questions about taxpayer resources being used for partisan politics.
Doyle sent Vang Schacherer a response including two dictionary definitions of solicitation.
Solicitation was their purpose, and MPL allowed (the Clinton supporters) use of their facilities, yet has denied my request for the exact same purposes. This is wholly unacceptable, Doyle wrote in the email obtained by Wisconsin Watchdog.
Whether granting the Hillary group was or was not a violation of MPLs policy is immaterial at this point, since precedent has now been set, Doyle added. Denying use of MPL facilities to another group who seeks to use of same but for a different political contender is favoritism at best and demonstrates an undefendible (sic) bias on the part of MPL.
Library communications director Brooke VandeBerg did not return two phone calls and an email seeking comment Wednesday.
Milwaukee for Hillary ended up canceling its phone bank event, due to low numbers.
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Link: http://watchdog.org/251965/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-library/
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Abele is another DINO, a silver-spoon millionaire pretending to be a Democrat while privatizing county services. If there's a Democratic Presidential candidate he would support, it's Hillary.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Why does your side always have build it's case on bull shit assumptions?
If Bernie is so damn popular why the need to always complain you are getting shut out everywhere?
Maybe it's because he isn't that popular.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Bernie has been on the stump for 6 months and can't get over 30% support.
Blus4u
(608 posts)Eom
Peace
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Bingo. Being well like and being a formidable campaigner are two completely different things. Sanders is now campaigning against everything and everyone. He has gotten off message and that just isn't his thing.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He is campaigning against everything at this point. Going off message isn't working well for him. Don't fret, he got a tweeter bump. lol.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)And new events occurred. Including Clinton having so little support that they couldn't fill a phone bank in a large city.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)happens.....
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)
yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.
I'll bet Hillary could push his buttons to the point he blows up in a debate but I don't think she would do it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)The OP was about a Bernie-volunteer's actions, not Bernie.
Patrick Doyle, a Milwaukee volunteer with Bernie Sanders presidential campaign, is taking the library on N. Cramer Street to task for apparently allowing library community space for Hillary Clinton backers while rejecting a similar request from the Bernie brigade.
And you write he is begging to look - perhaps you meant "beginning", but were too angry to type accurately?
And betting Hillary could push his buttons to the point he blows up in a debate?
That is serious hostility - some might even call that hatred.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)define other people.
I think your frustration is showing
Divernan
(15,480 posts)No frustration on my part - it's been one piece of great news after another for the Sanders campaign.
By the by, I just got home from a trip to my local supermarket, where I saw my first Hillary Clinton bumper sticker ever. It was on a car driven by one woman, with another woman in the passenger seat. And the name it called Hillary was one I cannot repeat here without getting banned.
If you are strong enough to see what the GOP is preparing to use in a run against Hillary, just google Hillary and bumper stickers. If you think criticism of Hillary's actions and policies on DU constitute "hatred", I'd like to hear what word you use to describe a whole variety of bumper stickers with unflattering pictures and unfortunate but exact quotes from her.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Some semblance of self awareness is necessary if you want to be taken seriously.
merrily
(45,251 posts)tech3149
(4,452 posts)Any post that is anything less than salutatory towards HRC or presents Sanders as anything other than a gnat to be swatted away, you always seem to be there post haste.
When HRC pushes the Senators buttons I'm pretty sure the result will be anything but the effect you expect.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Last month, Abele coughed up another $500 to Sanfelippo, new filings show. That puts Abele in company with Bradley Foundation CEO Michael Grebe, the ex-Republican National Committee general counsel and Gov. Scott Walker campaign chairman who gave Sanfelippo the same sum five days after Abele.
The donations come after Republican lawmakers helped Abele in a variety of ways. They pushed through a referendum to slash the pay of County Board members, backed a bill stripping the board of its oversight of mental health care and adopted legislation allowing construction of the proposed Couture high-rise development along Milwaukee's Lake Michigan shoreline. Sanfelippo, a former county supervisor, had his hand in all three deals.
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Former state Democratic Party Chairman Joe Wineke put it a little more harshly to The Capital Times: "Chris Abele might be the biggest phony in the history of Democratic politics."
http://shepherdexpress.com/article-26264-privatization-of-milwaukee-county-mental-health-hospital-in-the-works-news-shepherd-express.html
The countys Behavioral Health Division (BHD), which runs the Milwaukee County Mental Health Complex, asked for bids on a 20- to 35-year contract to run acute care services for adults, teens and children in crisis. The county envisions getting out of the hospital business and wants to contract for services from a private vendor. The countys current facility isnt in great shape and is too large for its needs and the private contract is one way to provide in-patient services while the county considers building a new facility.
The proposal came from the Behavioral Health Division administration and has the support of Milwaukee County Executive Chris Abele. It had little input from the Milwaukee County Mental Health Board, which under state law is charged with overseeing the countys mental health and substance abuse services.
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But the Mental Health Boards first year of operations shows that the Abele administration and BHD officials seem to be blocking the board from doing its job as an independent check on the administrations power to direct the countys mental health services. And the publicincluding those who are served by the countys programsare rarely consulted or heard from as the administration goes ahead with its plans to reorganize mental health services and privatize the hospital.
http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2015/04/chris-abeles-monkey-business-at-zoo.html
The board's decision was well-founded as that the concessions are very profitable for the county. Privatization of these services would lead to a reduction of services and sending millions and millions of taxpayer dollars out of state.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Don't let corporate cronyism evade your eyes,
Privatize, privatize, privatize!
Sung to the tune of Timothy Lehr's song,
Play Music
TOM LEHRER
Lobachevsky Lyrics
Plagiarize,
Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Remember why the good lord made your eyes,
So don't shade your eyes,
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize -
Only be sure always to call it please 'research'.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Hillary, right? The few Democrats who have bucked the Party and endorsed him have made public statements to that effect. You know Democratic politicians make their living, feed their families, from being Democratic politicians, right? They can't afford to be on the outs with the Party.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)When former party chair Mike Tate was ousted, half his staff went to work for a right-wing propaganda mill.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)been following and talking to since before the recall. He has recently been tapped by Abele to help him in some capacity. He has been not exactly pro Hill outright, but he has been noticed to be talking down to Bernie supporters. This very much coincides with his pal-ing around with Abele. Pisses me off to no end.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)country's public libraries!!!! When will this madness end???
WillyT
(72,631 posts)I love how "Democrats" think this process is... Democratic.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)It just looks that way when you are down as you are.
Maybe stop blaming other people and start taking a closer look at why people like Hillary more than the like Bernie in the White House.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,499 posts)and nobody makes up their mind based on stuff like that.
comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)Hillary's endorsements and widespread party support are inconsequential according to some here.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Milwaukee for Hillary ended up canceling its phone bank event, due to low numbers.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)By contrast,
Here are some Bernie phonebanking numbers:

upaloopa
(11,417 posts)has a great phone banking operation. They call me over and over if I don't answer. When I do there is always a nice Hillary supporter to talk to about the campaign.
After I retire in May I will join them.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)This has nothing to do with the end of the article though.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)That is a happy ending...and they all lived happily ever after.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Response to sufrommich (Reply #50)
Ed Suspicious This message was self-deleted by its author.
randys1
(16,286 posts)PatrickforO
(15,426 posts)'low numbers.'
DFA just endorsed Sanders with a whopping 88% member majority voting in favor of Bernie. O'Malley got 1% which means Clinton got 11% or less of the member vote.
Whoa. But yeah, we aren't gonna see any of this even talked about by the establishment, except behind closed doors.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Go ahead and tell me once again how inevitable and popular Hillary is....
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)First of all,Wisconsin Watchdog is an anti union right wing source.When you click on the embedded link to the Milwaukee Sanders supporter being quoted in the article it takes you to an article from Huntsville,Al. that has nothing to do with anyone by that name. It ends with Doyle swearing and wondering if this is "Stalinist Russia". Something doesn't smell right with this one.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Patrick Doyle
414-539-8869
pdoyle38@yahoo.com
Found: http://www.berniesandersvideo.com/wisconsin.html
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)he updated 3 hrs. ago makes no mention of this ever happening?
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010156809029
WillyT
(72,631 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)99% are bullshit. They also had traditionally been the province of the right wing (boy expelled from school for Jesus something, white family denied service by black waitress...) and were the content of daily emails.
They're why gawd invented Snopes.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)is aware his name is being used in a right wing smear campaign,I doubt he'd be very happy about it.
OilemFirchen
(7,288 posts)Except that it didn't.
Huh. Imagine that.
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)Here's a link to the event: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/events/view/1120223/
And here is the information from the page, copied and pasted:
Sat, Dec 12, 2015, 10:00am 12:00pm
Milwaukee for Hillary Phone Bank
Milwaukee Public Library (East Branch)
2320 N. Cramer St.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53211
Map this location
Join us on Saturday, December 12 at the Milwaukee Public Library (East Branch) from 10am - 12noon for a phone bank session to help expand our volunteer team by reaching out to Milwaukee-based Hillary supporters.
Don't worry if you're new to phone banking, we will have experienced volunteers on hand to train phone bank rookies.
This will be our last phone bank before a holiday break. We will resume in the new year.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Under the Bernie bus with ya! SMH
riversedge
(80,810 posts)wis watchdog would report on this. Anything to demean Clinton.
riversedge
(80,810 posts)riversedge
(80,810 posts)" Hillaryites" in the article.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Are you going to check into the truth of this OP or just let it hang?
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Have at it.
After DWS's shenanigans, sounds perfectly plausible to me.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)You stay classy.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Peace out.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)right wing blog posting fact free nonsense. You have a responsibility to check your sources and the bullshit being spewed.
JI7
(93,616 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)The Public Library. It's good to be the victim.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)the victim, you say?
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Us peons have to lick their boots.