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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:04 PM Dec 2015

The story of Sanders will be he was a good man who meant well but couldn't win.

Sanders won't be the nominee, much as we may love him. He's a self-described socialist and would get crushed in the general election. He is not creating the great national movement he said he would. He is playing only to the far left base and little more. Where is the great BROAD movement? Where are all the people who never vote? It just isn't happening. He is only recommending government programs and government spending. Where is the private sector job growth plan? Sorry folks. I love the guy and agree with most of what he says. But he is 30% behind in the national polls, and he will not be the nominee. Most Bernie fans are fine with whomever the nominee ends up being. Sorry. Nice dream, but it ain't gonna happen. I would like to see him be Sec. of Labor.

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The story of Sanders will be he was a good man who meant well but couldn't win. (Original Post) RBInMaine Dec 2015 OP
And you just had the urge to tell us all about your superior wisdom. thereismore Dec 2015 #1
Ah...his superior wisdom... artislife Dec 2015 #43
Bernie achieved his initial goals outstandingly. But as for Hortensis Dec 2015 #51
Oddly, this morning you all sound alike artislife Dec 2015 #52
What is this, your 27th red baiting op? Don't you have another hobby? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #2
Bwhahahaha.....Chairman Meow?...LOL! Segami Dec 2015 #11
If you go posting signs of Chairman Meow, you ain't gonna make it with anyone, anyhow. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #35
LOVE that! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #44
Bernie is a good man redstateblues Dec 2015 #3
Socialism isn't scary. Tote Life Dec 2015 #4
It's not scary-It just wouldn't play well in the GE redstateblues Dec 2015 #13
Republicans For Bernie Sanders 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #17
He will get crushed in the delegate rich Super Tuesday redstateblues Dec 2015 #20
Bernie runs stronger than Hillary against ALL GOP candidates, 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #21
That's hilarious... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #25
Yes, you don't want shards from the explosions that will come from when they are thrown Tote Life Dec 2015 #30
Ah...you are so very convincing. artislife Dec 2015 #45
Yes, you've mentioned this a time or twelve. On edit:more like twenty. See below. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #22
Another right wing smear. The facts? catnhatnh Dec 2015 #27
You mean a business trip in Moscow. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #36
Ask Americans that! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #28
I know PLENTY about Bernie, and socialism is scary because it LOSES. Get real. RBInMaine Dec 2015 #56
Agreed. DavidDvorkin Dec 2015 #5
... PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #6
K&R nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #7
"much as we may love him." LOL. What you mean WE, Kimosabe? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #8
. Autumn Dec 2015 #9
Exactly... Bjornsdotter Dec 2015 #10
Except Candidate Obama wasn't a self-described socialist ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #19
He is a Socialist Democrat like you and I VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #29
Exactly. RBInMaine Dec 2015 #58
Obama wasn't a self-described socialist who used to trash the very party he was trying to lead. RBInMaine Dec 2015 #57
Bernie has already weathered the "EEeeeK! He's a Socialist!!" storm. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #12
Let's have a look at all of your ops about that SOCIALIZT who just can't win: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #14
Oh, Snap! MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #26
There has to be an award, yes! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #48
His "superior wisdom" on display. artislife Dec 2015 #46
It's deja vu all over again! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #49
Bern! nt thereismore Dec 2015 #55
Bullshit. 99Forever Dec 2015 #15
And the next President of the USA Fred75 Dec 2015 #16
Fred75 Welcome to the DU Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #23
You must not be paying attention.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #33
National polls are beauty contests based on name-recognition. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #37
The only argument that Hillary fans have is her ''inevitablity''. And they are sounding desperate. reformist2 Dec 2015 #18
Hillary supporters are never the ones that use that word.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #31
You may not use the exact word, but the sentiments expressed Fawke Em Dec 2015 #39
The volume is going up to 11! artislife Dec 2015 #47
A story indeed. GoneFishin Dec 2015 #24
Reality hurts doesn't it? RBInMaine Dec 2015 #59
The primaries haven't happened yet, people. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #32
There's only one proven loser in this race. frylock Dec 2015 #34
The story of Hillary Clinton will be that she was a lying flip-flopping two time loser... malokvale77 Dec 2015 #38
Being a socialist at the top Protalker Dec 2015 #40
Did you reply to the wrong post? malokvale77 Dec 2015 #42
when you assume ... Protalker Dec 2015 #50
If what you say is true the story will be SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #41
I think it will be firebrand80 Dec 2015 #53
Bernie! immoderate Dec 2015 #54

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
1. And you just had the urge to tell us all about your superior wisdom.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:06 PM
Dec 2015

I think you may need some Xanax. Or two.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. Bernie achieved his initial goals outstandingly. But as for
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 AM
Dec 2015

a genuine run for president, let's not forget, he started with a great boost from the excitement Elizabeth Warren created and has not been able to build on that.

I think we all believe that if Warren had run she'd have had a real shot at the nomination.

The big difference is that Warren has proven that she can and will make big changes from within the system -- and Bernie has not.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
52. Oddly, this morning you all sound alike
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:29 AM
Dec 2015

The separation gap is getting wider and wider.


Good bye

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
35. If you go posting signs of Chairman Meow, you ain't gonna make it with anyone, anyhow.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:33 AM
Dec 2015

Don't ya know it's gonna be, Bernie?
Bernie, Bernie.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
20. He will get crushed in the delegate rich Super Tuesday
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:42 PM
Dec 2015

Unfortunately he won't get many crossover Republican votes in the primary because of the hotly contested GOP primary. I just don't see many other states where he will win outside of his home turf in the small states in NE.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
21. Bernie runs stronger than Hillary against ALL GOP candidates,
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:45 PM
Dec 2015

and you know it.

The Democratic party is not doing the party OR the nation any favors by trying to force
Hillary down our throats, via buggered & paltry debate schedule.

 

Tote Life

(72 posts)
30. Yes, you don't want shards from the explosions that will come from when they are thrown
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:26 AM
Dec 2015

when their predictions doesn't come true.

hedda_foil

(16,985 posts)
22. Yes, you've mentioned this a time or twelve. On edit:more like twenty. See below.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:47 PM
Dec 2015

I doubt if the so called honeymoon in Moscow will bother most voters.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
27. Another right wing smear. The facts?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:17 AM
Dec 2015

In 1956, President Eisenhower launched the program that a decade later would be called Sister Cities International, a program still in existence today. The idea was to promote peace and understanding through connections between cities in the United States and, at first, Western Europe. The program soon spread. In 1973, Seattle became a sister city of Tashkent, the capital of Uzbekistan, then under Soviet rule. Other U.S.-Soviet sister cities soon followed despite the tensions of the Cold War.

In 1988, Burlington sistered with Yaroslavl, a city 160 miles north of Moscow. That was the same year Sanders married his second wife, Jane. In fact, the day after they married, they headed out to Yaroslavl. So, one could call it a honeymoon, and the pair have both done so, but jokingly or sarcastically. The reason for that is that they didn't go alone. There were 10 other people from Burlington who went with them. It was a trip dotted with diplomacy, official meetings and numerous interviews. Not most people's idea of a honeymoon getaway.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18509/anderson-coopers-claim-about-bernie-sanders-soviet-union-honeymoon-was-redb

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
36. You mean a business trip in Moscow.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:34 AM
Dec 2015

That happened to coincide with his marriage?

They went there for his business trip as mayor and then finished their honeymoon elsewhere.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
28. Ask Americans that!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:25 AM
Dec 2015

And EU and The Nordic Countries are not Socialist States by the way.....in case you want to use them as an example....that dog won't hunt...

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
8. "much as we may love him." LOL. What you mean WE, Kimosabe?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:11 PM
Dec 2015

You love Bernie Sanders like I love diarrhea.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. Except Candidate Obama wasn't a self-described socialist ...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:36 PM
Dec 2015

Democratic, or other wise; he played to the entire Democratic Party; spoke to a broad range of issues; and, built a Movement that contained more than folks that never turn out to vote ...

Other than that, I could see why you felt the same thing about Candidate Obama in 2008.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
57. Obama wasn't a self-described socialist who used to trash the very party he was trying to lead.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:00 AM
Dec 2015
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. Bernie has already weathered the "EEeeeK! He's a Socialist!!" storm.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:24 PM
Dec 2015

which was actually a tempest in a teapot.

Every time he gets labeled a socialist, he wears it with pride, takes 1-1/2 hours to explain it at
Georgetown University, takes it to Liberty University for good measure.

The OP is dripping with wishful thinking, and is way off the mark with regard to Bernie and his
chances at making it to the WH.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. Let's have a look at all of your ops about that SOCIALIZT who just can't win:
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:30 PM
Dec 2015

Aug 23: The VERY serious challenges of the Sanders candidacy.

Sept 20: It is unlikely that either Sanders or Trump will win the nominations.

Sept 26: This country will absolutely NOT elect a self-described socialist. Sanders would be slaughtered.

Oct 4: Can Bernie supporters comprehend why someone would prefer Hillary over Bernie?

Oct 10: Why it is EXTREMELY unlikely that Sanders can win the nomination let alone the general election.

Oct 12: Sanders sealed his fate this weekend on Meet The Press.

Oct 15: Both Hillary and Bernie did well. Congrats to both. Hillary will most likely be the nominee.

Oct 17: Hillary Clinton is a brilliant super-qualified PROGRESSIVE candidate who will most likely win.

Oct 17: Hillary is WAY ahead in the national polls, and America isn't going to elect a "Socialist."

Nov 5: FDR was the establishment. Truman was the establishment. JFK was the establishment.

Nov 7: A self-declared NON DEMOCRAT and Socialist will not win the nomination.

Nov 10: Hillary Clinton is the OVERWHELMING favorite in the party and will win the nomination handily.

Nov 15: Hillary will be the nominee. Bernie is a nice guy, but he's a self-declared socialist so he's DONE.

Nov 16: Hillary 63% Bernie 29%. And all the lamenting in the world won't change those numbers.

Nov 23: The attacks on Hillary around here are getting as old as the crust on Paul LePage's underwear.

Nov 25: All the anti-Hillary diarrhea in the world isn't going to change a single mind. Time for a new tune.

Nov 30: So many anti-Hillary rants. Such a galactic waste of time and energy.


So tell me, what is it about this one that makes you think we'll give up after reading it?

Some kind of magic ju ju that'll kick in when you hit #18?

Talk about a galactic waste of time and energy...

Fred75

(22 posts)
16. And the next President of the USA
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:32 PM
Dec 2015

You apparently aren't paying close attention.
People want change, and HRC is just more of the same.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
33. You must not be paying attention....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:29 AM
Dec 2015

She is far in the lead nationally.....apparently they are Happy for her to continue the successful policies of this President.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
37. National polls are beauty contests based on name-recognition.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:37 AM
Dec 2015

I have news for you: unless you're in the first four states to vote, your time is being spent focusing on these two big end-of-the-year holidays that take a lot of time to prepare for and require spending more time with family than reading about politics (unless you're a political junkie like we are on DU).

The average American won't be paying attention to this until mid-January.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
18. The only argument that Hillary fans have is her ''inevitablity''. And they are sounding desperate.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:35 PM
Dec 2015

They rarely argue *why* she should win. Just that she is going to win, and that you had better get used to it. I think they post these messages to convince themselves that it is going to happen.

It's not the tone of gracious winners in any case, I'll leave it at that.
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
31. Hillary supporters are never the ones that use that word....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:27 AM
Dec 2015

So that argument is bullshit

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
39. You may not use the exact word, but the sentiments expressed
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:40 AM
Dec 2015

can be synopsized into that word.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
47. The volume is going up to 11!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:40 AM
Dec 2015

It sounds pretty sweet to me, but then I like watching the edges starting to fray.

PatrickforO

(15,425 posts)
32. The primaries haven't happened yet, people.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:29 AM
Dec 2015

I know how I'm going to vote. It is amusing how so many people are telling all Bernie's supporters, 'oh he can't win - we're going to have to hold our noses and get behind Hillary.'

Thing is, I'm still supporting Bernie. So are millions of other Americans.

We will see how the votes go.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
38. The story of Hillary Clinton will be that she was a lying flip-flopping two time loser...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:38 AM
Dec 2015

who couldn't measure up to Shirley Chisholm.

I would like to see her swept into the dust bin of history.

Protalker

(418 posts)
40. Being a socialist at the top
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:54 AM
Dec 2015

In order to get his tax revenues through the house he is going to have to bank on his number 2 supporter Ellison who is a Muslim. Just on the face of it It is going to be a heavy lift to get anything through the house to raise taxes on the rich. Bernie's other endorser is a Hispanic. The house is over half Republican and their support is mandatory to raise taxes good luck

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
42. Did you reply to the wrong post?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:18 AM
Dec 2015

My post was about Hillary Clinton and a better female candidate named Shirley Chisholm.

Why are you going on about a Muslim and a Hispanic not being good endorsements for Bernie Sanders?

I personally think they are great endorsements, but that has nothing to do with my post.

In addition, your last line about raising taxes, tells me everything I need to know about you.

Protalker

(418 posts)
50. when you assume ...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015

The post as I read it was about Bernie Sanders being a good man and I agree. having spent the last 35 years as a social worker working with indigent people I'm interestIed in someone w ho can level the playing field from the rich and the poor. I believe to accomplish this that a fair and progressive tax system needs to be in place. I think Obama did his best in an honest way to work with the house. it didn't work. I like Chisholm and her directness but this is going to take compromise and thought. Hilary knows like Johnson when he put through his great American society program where the bodies are buried

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
53. I think it will be
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:32 AM
Dec 2015

That he ran a campaign meant to prove a point, and ended up doing better than anyone expected.

We will look back and credit him for laying the ground work for a more professional, polished, politically savvy version of his message winning the White House in 8 years.

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