DNC vendor mistakenly allowed access to voter database. DNC denies Bernie access to database..

[madfloridian]

DNC blames Bernie Sanders campaign and refuses to let them use the database for now.

Yet the vendor admitted to allowing the access while updating.

Frankly I am getting very tired of the way the party leaders are shutting out Bernie's campaign.

I entered the primaries with a completely open mind about both candidates while still preferring Bernie. I am remembering now how the party managed to shut out any leaders who supported Howard Dean in 2004, and how our local party effectively shut us up.

Not feeling so good about things now.

The article has already been posted here with a subject line accusing Bernie of hacking. From the Washington Post

The DNC maintains the master list and rents it to national and state campaigns, which then add their own, proprietary information gathered by field workers and volunteers. Firewalls are supposed to prevent campaigns from viewing data gathered by their rivals.

NGP VAN, the vendor that handles the master file, said the incident occurred Wednesday while a patch was being applied to the software. The process briefly opened a window into proprietary information from other campaigns, said the company’s chief, Stu Trevelyan. He said a full audit will be conducted.

The DNC has told the Sanders campaign that it will not be allowed access to the data again until it provides an explanation as well as assurances that all Clinton data has been destroyed.

Hell that could have been an accidental event with the window opened that should not have been.

I have a feeling the DNC leaders and other party leaders are heading toward the same lack of respect for the left, the populists, the liberals of the party.

[VanillaRhapsody]

1. Actual headline:

DNC: Sanders campaign improperly accessed Clinton voter data

[madfloridian]

3. I saw the actual headline. It's not a true one. The vendor took the blame.

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. Thats the actual headline......you just dont like it...

Not only is Bernie a Saint now.....so are his staffers apparentky....

But Bernie fired him....so he lost his wings...

[madfloridian]

6. Go ahead.

Say what you need to say.

[kjones]

49. Just because a third party screwed up doesn't mean the staffer didn't take advantage of the breach.

Just because I forget to lock my door doesn't give you the right to come into my house.
More than that, they looked at (read: took) something that they weren't supposed to.

[SunSeeker]

41. Huffpo used the Wapo headline too.

http://m.huffpost.com/us

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-sanders-campaign-improperly-accessed-clinton-voter-data/2015/12/17/a2e2e14e-a522-11e5-b53d-972e2751f433_story.html

[madfloridian]

2. I don't feel like taking the disrespect anymore. Tired of fly swatters, gifs of shoulder brushing.

I am tired of the swatting of flies, the flies of course meaning the Bernie supporters.

I am just as tired of the Hillary gif of her brushing off her shoulder as I was of the gif of Obama brushing off his shoulder in 2008.

Just tired.

[VanillaRhapsody]

7. The gif stays....

[madfloridian]

9. Of course it will stay.

It really should, I guess.

Lately it is reminding me of the contempt both parties have toward the left.

[VanillaRhapsody]

11. ..

[artislife]

21. I just like to imagine the swatter hitting h in the head

The two images so close, allows me to do so easily.

Thank you.

[madfloridian]

30. .....

[Leftyforever]

51. +1

[SidDithers]

68. ...

Sid

[senz]

57. I am with you, madfloridian

They've been showing us who they are for a long time. They'll do anything and they don't seem to respect anyone.

Another reason to be careful.

[VanillaRhapsody]

78. Yet you have one of your own in your sig line...

[senz]

83. There's nothing negative in my sig line.

Shall I put in an obnoxious little rolf smilie?

Ick.

[VanillaRhapsody]

84. Really?

please tell us what the significance is?

Love to hear it...who are you supporting and WHY did they get the boot?

[Warren DeMontague]

63. Yeah, I've got better shit to do than hang round while some 50somethings who never emotionally got

past Jr. High post endless single-digit IQ variations of "eff yew" "sanders supporters are poop-heads" and that old classic, "neener neener".

Whatever. Congratulations if she's the nominee, kids. I really hope she is everything they seem to think she is.

[VanillaRhapsody]

79. Thanks....

and she is...

(Obama sure had his doubters back in the day didn't he?)

[Scuba]

72. Hillary has head lice, and her fans are weirdly proud of it. Go figure.

[MisterP]

85. and if they get a hide after being treated with kid gloves that's another "proof" of the grand

fratboy alert-stalking conspiracy

[hill2016]

5. the data

was accessed deliberately and without authorization.

seems to fit the definition of "hack"

If I guessed your password and read your email without your permission would you say that was hacking?

[HerbChestnut]

10. Except nothing was actually "hacked"

How cool is that? But you've been shut down in your other thread so I can understand why you'd want to try and start it up again here.

[SunSeeker]

32. So why did Sanders fire a staffer over it?

[HerbChestnut]

33. Probably protocol

If there's actually something to this story I'm sure we'll hear more about it soon.

[SunSeeker]

34. So arbitrary firings are Sanders' "protocol"?

[HerbChestnut]

39. I'm too tired to come up with anything witty

But there is probably some campaign policy that says if something like this happens the guilty party will be fired. Whether the staffer accessed those files intentionally or not they accessed them, and that's grounds for firing. I'm sure every campaign has a similar policy.

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. Your blatant lies won't float on this thread either.

You just made yourself look foolish and petty. No one "hacked" anything.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[arcane1]

31. Play that role. Fool no one.

[Live and Learn]

61. Silly question since nothing of the sort happened. nt

[BlueCheese]

8. I agree with you, in that I think this was an honest mistake by a low-level staffer.

I also agree that Sanders' campaign should have their access reinstated immediately.

However, I do think to be fair, you should include the fact that a low-level Sanders staffer did apparently access Clinton's data while this third-party breach was active. And also, it's not accurate to say that the DNC is blaming Sanders' campaign for the breach-- they're blaming his campaign for taking advantage of a breach caused by a third party.

[madfloridian]

12. The window was improperly opened.

The use of the word hacked is inappropriate.

I think I just reached a new level of outrage tonight.

[BlueCheese]

13. I agree the word "hacked" is not accurate.

[madfloridian]

15. Thanks for that.

[jfern]

23. Random staffer opening a window is a big deal

Candidate storing top secret emails on random personal computers is totally fine.

[Fawke Em]

24. I think its karmatically hilarious that Hill fans are suddenly so concerned about data security.

After months of defending Hillary's unsecure private server that a junior high school student could hack, they're suddenly so concerned with a low-level staffer inadvertently opening a file that the vendor charged with securing the data accidentally gave them access to.

That the security breach was reported in 30 minutes tells me that Bernie's staff did the right thing: they used a zero-tolerance policy to fire the employee (which sucks, but it is what it is) and reported the breach. Who reports their own "hacks?"

If the employee was trying to access the information for nefarious purposes, they would never have reported it to their supervisor and the supervisor would have never reported it to the vendor.

The average breach remains on most servers for up to eight months before its discovered. This was over and done with in 30 minutes.

Now... about Hillary's server....

The AP exclusively reviewed numerous records from an Internet "census" by an anonymous hacker-researcher, who three years ago used unsecured devices to scan hundreds of millions of Internet Protocol addresses for accessible doors, called "ports." Using a computer in Serbia, the hacker scanned Clinton's basement server in Chappaqua at least twice, in August and December 2012. It was unclear whether the hacker was aware the server belonged to Clinton, although it identified itself as providing email services for clintonemail.com. The results are widely available online.

Remote-access software allows users to control another computer from afar. The programs are usually operated through an encrypted connection — called a virtual private network, or VPN. But Clinton's system appeared to accept commands directly from the Internet without such protections.

"That's total amateur hour," said Marc Maiffret, who has founded two cybersecurity companies. He said permitting remote-access connections directly over the Internet would be the result of someone choosing convenience over security or failing to understand the risks. "Real enterprise-class security, with teams dedicated to these things, would not do this," he said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/467ff78858bf4dde8db21677deeff101/only-ap-clinton-server-ran-software-risked-hacking

[madfloridian]

26. What is it they say bites one in the ass?

Good post and so true.

[reddread]

67. they are funnier than SNL has been for decades.

Sort of hamfisted Americanized Pythonesque opera.
I may be sad it ended so suddenly someday.
So many dead parrots...

[Live and Learn]

62. +1000 nt

[artislife]

22. Maybe if he took the 5th, the clinton supporters would like him/her better? nt

[Truprogressive85]

14. Since DNC denies Bernie access to database

I going to unsubscribed to there multiple emails they send

my wallet is close to the DNC period

[ViseGrip]

18. I learned a long time ago, to give the money to the candidates.

[Scuba]

73. ^^This^^

[peacebird]

74. Exactly. I give to candidates individually, not to DNC

[madfloridian]

16. Oh, I forgot to say I've been a Democrat all my life and always fallen in line.

Better not leave that out.

[madfloridian]

17. Didn't Bernie just announce 2 million contributions...a record number?

[madfloridian]

20. Does that make me a conspiracy theorist?

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. Nope.

DWS and her corrupt DNC are probably trying to take him down. Howard Dean - rinse and repeat.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Except little Miss DWS has a problem this time around. We're onto her games. They're not going to work. There is no politician more honest and ethical than Bernie Sanders and his supporters know that.

[madfloridian]

27. DWS has been so obvious.

She was one of the leaders when the Clintons screwed around with the Florida primaries in 2008. She's even more obvious about shutting Bernie out.

[artislife]

36. I never sent money to the DNC

But I did buy a 250 lunch with my WA senators. I won't again. The funniest thing this week, was talking to my 67 year old client and her telling me all about the interview with Killer Mike. I just pretended like I hadn't heard of it and let her tell me everything.





There is so much joy in seeing this woman animated and excited talking about Killer Mike and Bernie. It is like a great christmas gift.

[madfloridian]

43. I am amazed at how many people in my very RW area like Bernie.

One Republican I talk to often says her family is rooting for him...they don't like the GOP candidates. They don't like Hillary.

[Live and Learn]

59. I have but not this go around and likely not in the future! And I have explained why to them. nt

[CoffeeCat]

40. No doubt

Let's just say what we all know. This was a set up, so the DNC would have an excuse to deny Bernie the lists.

They got what they wanted.

[arcane1]

28. Whatever It Takes(tm)

That's the DNC motto.

[w0nderer]

29. comment to keep eye on thread n/t

[madfloridian]

35. This is so petty.

The candidates have to pay for the database use. There should be strong security on it.

Petty and childish.

And so strange the day Bernie hits 2 million contributions, a record.

Really fed up now with all the bad attitude of the party leaders toward the left.

[jfern]

38. I don't think the party establishment has any idea how much much they are hated

[ConservativeDemocrat]

44. They don't because they aren't. Democrats aren't the party of hate.

Even though DU seems to have dozens of these fringe haters, all prolific screed writers, they make up a minuscule fraction of Democratic voters.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Live and Learn]

56. LOL You don't talk to many people, do you? nt

[ConservativeDemocrat]

86. On the contrary, I've spoken to thousands

I canvass, kid. It's blatantly obvious that you don't even know what that is.

Here's the thing. "Polling" all your friends at 1 AM in some college dorm reeking of pot isn't the same thing as polling actual Democratic voters, with jobs and who pay taxes, and who go to the polls. So remember, when Hillary steamrolls Bernie in the Democratic primary, it's not some whack-a-doodle conspiracy. It really is the will of the voters.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Live and Learn]

87. Ahh yes, when all else fails turn to condescension.

I hate to tell you but I have been out there three days a week for many months now and my experience is vastly different than yours.


Perhaps you should try canvassing somewhere other than the Hamptons and Wall Street.

[CoffeeCat]

42. I think it's due to the Iowa Poll...

There are tons of polls float floating around, but I guarantee you that every politician who was interested in how they were doing in Iowa, was most interested in Ann Seltzer's Iowa poll.

She has an unparalleled accuracy record and an A+ rating from Nate Silver--a rating he's only given to three polling firms.

That poll showed Bernie within 9--single digits--and peak campaign season in Iowa hasn't even hit yet. Sander's recent Iowa events have attracted 2,000, 1450 and 1500 people. Hillary's last three events had between 200-400 people. There are red flags that this is 2008 2.0.

I'd expect lots of dirty tricks and bullshit to start hitting the fan.

This DNC stunt was concocted to deny Bernie the lists.

People...get to work for Bernie. Call your local offices. Call the offices with impending primaries (Iowa, NH, NV, SC). Do whatever you can. The establishment will pull all of stops, but they can't stop We The People.

Their media blackout of Bernie; their ridiculous rigged polls and their limited debate schedule is just not taking Bernie down. The Iowa Poll demonstrated that.

So get ready for more lies, set ups, bullshit and other games from the establishment who stands to lose everything if Bernie is elected.

[jfern]

37. The DNC is a bunch of Hillary hacks

Screw them

[blue neen]

45. IMHO, you should have used the original headline,

or something closer to it than what you did use.

[Live and Learn]

46. It was the Bernie campaign that found and reported the vendor mistake.

The breach occurred on Wednesday, a DNC official confirmed, through the NGP VAN, the leading technology company that allows campaigns to identify voters, as well as monitor their preferences and leanings, in what’s called the 50-state voter file. For a “brief window” — about 30 minutes, an official said — a bug in the software exposed the campaigns’ internal “voter ID” data.

During that period, the Sanders campaign discovered the breach, accessed the Clinton campaign’s data, then called the vendor to point out the flaw, according to the official. The DNC has since cut off Sanders’s access to the voter file — until his campaign officials can “prove” they’ve deleted the Clinton data.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/bernie-sanders-campaign-accessed-confidential-clinton-data?fb_comment_id=974241255956190_974275749286074&comment_id=974265459287103&reply_comment_id=974275749286074#.yax9Q64REz

And we don't need their data anyway. We campaign to everyone. I have switched quite a few voters from Trump to Bernie.

[madfloridian]

47. So Bernie campaign called the vendor Wed, notified the DNC for months.

[Live and Learn]

54. That is what it sounds like to me. nt

[jfern]

58. No good deed goes unpunished

[Live and Learn]

60. Yep! nt

[Bernblu]

48. It has all the markings of a setup.

As a database professional this story has all of the markings of a setup. If they do not allow Bernie's campaign immediate access to their data it would mean that the DNC is attempting to scuttle Bernie's campaign. If they do this it's Bernie or bust for me. They would be kissing my vote bye, bye for a long, long time. I simply will do not vote for a corrupt party.

[madfloridian]

50. .....

[Live and Learn]

55. Hear, hear! nt

[Le Taz Hot]

52. Kicking to the top

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. I'm sick of the drama and victimhood status from the Clinton Camp.

[Duppers]

64. How low will they crawl?

This is approaching Rovian tactics.

[NuclearDem]

65. Does the campaign just hire incompetent nitwits?

You would think someone with the title of National Data Director would have known whose data he was accessing and what would happen if he messed around.

[riversedge]

66. oh, he knew what he was doing. He saw the cookie jar open and wanted those

Hillary cookies. Just to tempting.

[Nonhlanhla]

69. Why is this somehow Hillary's fault?

Based on what I've read on news sites (not here), this is the sequence of events:

The firewall was turned off; the company alerted the DNC (not the Bernie camp - but the Bernie camp did alert them before of the firewall not working properly); meanwhile they discovered that 5 Bernie staffers had improperly accessed Clinton files. Bernie fired one of them, presumably because said staffer had deliberately accessed the Clinton files.

It seems to me that the only clearly guilty party here is the fired staffer who could not resist reaching into the cookie jar when the lid fell off.

Meanwhile the Bernie campaign cannot access the database until they have proven that they no longer have the Clinton files. I think we can assume that as soon as things are cleared up, their access will be restored.

So why are the Bernie people going nuts over this and make this somehow Hillary's fault? Can you imagine the ruckus if someone from the Hillary campaign had accessed Bernie's files? Would the Bernie people then say it's a setup by Bernie? I don't think so.

Keep calm and carry on.

[MrMickeysMom]

70. I'm pretty tired of it, too mad... Ali Velshi will have a report on Sanders tonight at 9 PM Eastern

For those here who don't know, Ali talks finance on Al Jazeera (yeah, cable). Al Jazeera seems to be one of the only cable channels who fairly examine news. I believe they were planning a report on the Sanders campaign tonight, which is a perfect time for any update...

MEANWHILE... the accusations and minions live on here... just tearing at their eyebrows to get another opportunity to falsely cover up TURD WAY TACTICS.

DWS is doing all she can as lead cheerleader of the HRC "team"... Some TEAM, eh? They disgust me to no end.

[VanillaRhapsody]

77. Did he cheat or not?

If Clinton's Data Director had done this...you would be singing a very different tune...

[NCTraveler]

71. Mistakenly? The free passes are piling up. Nt

[peacebird]

75. Check out this thread. Turns out a number of players from have ties to DWS, Clinton 08, Bill Clinton

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=83684

Makes it all very incestuous and cozy, and the timing - when Bernie is having a fantastic news day? Suuuuuuuuure it's just a 'coincidence'

DWS does not do subtle.

[VanillaRhapsody]

76. Mistake????

By the National Data Director???

[leftcoastmountains]

80. K&R

[UglyGreed]

81. K/R

[WillyT]

82. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!