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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:29 AM Dec 2015

Bernie campaign months ago alerted the DNC that data was available to other campaigns. Wow.

Sanders' communications head said NGP VAN has failed before

Speaking to BuzzFeed News, Michael Briggs — communications aide for the Sanders campaign — turned the blame on NGP VAN. "Sadly, the vendor who runs the DNC's voter file program continues to make serious errors," he said, referring to "more than one occasion" when Democratic campaigns were inadvertently able to access each others' data. "Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns," he said. "At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor."


Again:

"Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns," he said. "At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor."


The DNC said it was "short in duration"....yet they were notified months ago??

Luis Miranda, the DNC's communications director, said the committee was "working with our campaigns and the vendor to have full clarity on the extent of the breach, ensure that this isolated incident does not happen again, and to enable our campaigns to continue engaging voters on the issues that matter most to them and their families." Stu Trevelyan, head of NGP VAN, downplayed the incident, saying it was "fairly short in duration," and that "by lunchtime, it was resolved."


I smell something fishy somewhere.
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Bernie campaign months ago alerted the DNC that data was available to other campaigns. Wow. (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2015 OP
Kick. madfloridian Dec 2015 #1
it gets worse questionseverything Dec 2015 #52
Whoops! n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #2
If this is not solved quickly, it will be a turning point for me... madfloridian Dec 2015 #3
you still respect the party and not a few exceptional reps of it? w0nderer Dec 2015 #35
Not what I said. madfloridian Dec 2015 #36
sorry my bad, forgot the w0nderer Dec 2015 #37
.... madfloridian Dec 2015 #38
i need to keep reminding myself to use it w0nderer Dec 2015 #43
"discworld reference".... daleanime Dec 2015 #51
!!! Matariki Dec 2015 #59
The Bernie campaign doesn't use shit like this for political advantage jfern Dec 2015 #4
Tonight has been a turning point for me. madfloridian Dec 2015 #5
The Clintons are about divide and conquer jfern Dec 2015 #6
I am almost completely out the door as is....nt artislife Dec 2015 #7
Me. too. madfloridian Dec 2015 #8
Oh I right there also! nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #47
This is a manufactured problem... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #9
+1,000,000. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #11
I think this is like a final straw. madfloridian Dec 2015 #14
a manufactured problem PADemD Dec 2015 #30
Well, they certainly did use it for political advantage. murielm99 Dec 2015 #40
Stop lying, they reported the issue jfern Dec 2015 #41
What are you saying I am lying about? n/t murielm99 Dec 2015 #42
They reported the bug, they didn't try to use it for political purposes jfern Dec 2015 #44
They used four different accounts murielm99 Dec 2015 #45
It seems to indicate that only 1 account accessed any information jfern Dec 2015 #46
yup--all he tries to win with are the voters; she tries to win using the party and big donors MisterP Dec 2015 #60
"Stu Trevelyan, head of NGP VAN, downplayed the incident" madfloridian Dec 2015 #10
And months later it's the DNC's fault too for not getting it fixed jfern Dec 2015 #12
exactly right. madfloridian Dec 2015 #13
I'm finding this story very conveniently timed . . . Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #15
Me, too. madfloridian Dec 2015 #18
Oh let's be blunt: it stinks to high heaven cali Dec 2015 #57
"our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor." madfloridian Dec 2015 #16
The Bernie campaign needs to fight fire with fire, that is for sure jfern Dec 2015 #20
Bernie campaign's data was equally available. madfloridian Dec 2015 #17
If the DNC was warned months that other campaigns were in jeopardy.... madfloridian Dec 2015 #19
And so the media begins its field day. madfloridian Dec 2015 #21
K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #22
SO..the Bernie campaign notified the vendor on Wed, warned the DNC for months. madfloridian Dec 2015 #23
K & R Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #24
Thanks. madfloridian Dec 2015 #25
Sanders Campaign Fires Data Director After Breach of Clinton Files riversedge Dec 2015 #26
If they deprive Bernie of the voter database after he warned them repeatedly.... madfloridian Dec 2015 #28
No, it is the data Director who will bring them down. He is the snoop. riversedge Dec 2015 #29
+1 stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #49
Since Bernie campaign called the vendor this week, notified DNC for months..... madfloridian Dec 2015 #27
And no assurance that the Sanders data is safe while it's locked up. arcane1 Dec 2015 #55
Kick! Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #31
Does Team Hillary really believe this crap is going to fly? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #32
Yes, they do. madfloridian Dec 2015 #34
How do you prove what you deleted? DNC insists the campaign prove it's deleted. madfloridian Dec 2015 #33
guess they will have to call in the FBI and seize the computer riversedge Dec 2015 #39
Once they start digging SwampG8r Dec 2015 #48
Questioning Bernie's strongest asset...his integrity. I am furious. madfloridian Dec 2015 #50
Of course.... daleanime Dec 2015 #56
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #53
If the DNC was notified months ago mindwalker_i Dec 2015 #54
Kick! FloriTexan Dec 2015 #58

questionseverything

(11,517 posts)
52. it gets worse
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:19 PM
Dec 2015

"Turns out that Nathaniel Pearlman, the CEO of NGP-VAN, the company that is responsible for the data leak that got Sander's campaign banned by the DNC from seeing Democratic party voter roles, was the chief technology officer of the Clinton 2008 campaign."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Pearlman

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
3. If this is not solved quickly, it will be a turning point for me...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:34 AM
Dec 2015

and my respect for the party.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
35. you still respect the party and not a few exceptional reps of it?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:17 AM
Dec 2015

ummm ok?

i respect ya, i won't say something wrong
...yet

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
43. i need to keep reminding myself to use it
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:35 AM
Dec 2015

i'm used to a 'patrician raised eyebrow of sarcasm' in real life <<discworld reference

jfern

(5,204 posts)
4. The Bernie campaign doesn't use shit like this for political advantage
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:34 AM
Dec 2015

Shame on the Hillary campaign for being such scum here. Shame on the DNC for making Bernie seem like the bad guy. Shame shame shame.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
5. Tonight has been a turning point for me.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:37 AM
Dec 2015

So much harm is being done to our party by the hatred toward each other.

It never stops.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
6. The Clintons are about divide and conquer
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:40 AM
Dec 2015

They try to use race, gender, and bullshit like this against Bernie and his supporters, all while expecting that everyone they've trashed will fall in line if Hillary is the nominee.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. This is a manufactured problem...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:57 AM
Dec 2015

...designed to deny the Sanders campaign access to critical data.

No doubt.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
14. I think this is like a final straw.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:08 AM
Dec 2015

If the Bernie campaign warned them for months....then someone is not telling the truth.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
30. a manufactured problem
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:43 AM
Dec 2015

So that Hillary can play outraged victim during Saturday night's debate.

murielm99

(32,638 posts)
40. Well, they certainly did use it for political advantage.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:31 AM
Dec 2015

They did this on their own. Hillary's campaign had nothing to do with it. Neither did the DNC. Bernie's national director screwed up, and it is no one else's fault.

Stop creating a huge conspiracy theory where there is none.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
44. They reported the bug, they didn't try to use it for political purposes
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:35 AM
Dec 2015

It's the DNC that made this political by cutting off their access and trying to make his campaign look bad to the media.

murielm99

(32,638 posts)
45. They used four different accounts
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:40 AM
Dec 2015

to access information that belonged to the Clinton campaign. That is using the bug for political purposes. That is not a lie. You have no business calling me a liar.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
46. It seems to indicate that only 1 account accessed any information
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 05:41 AM
Dec 2015

And the Bernie campaign reported the bug. No good deed goes unpunished.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
60. yup--all he tries to win with are the voters; she tries to win using the party and big donors
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:14 PM
Dec 2015

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
10. "Stu Trevelyan, head of NGP VAN, downplayed the incident"
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:57 AM
Dec 2015

Of course he did.

Note to Luis:

If you were told months ago, it is not an isolated incident.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
12. And months later it's the DNC's fault too for not getting it fixed
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:58 AM
Dec 2015

But DWS would rather have the campaign she doesn't support get the blame.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
16. "our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor."
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:12 AM
Dec 2015

Perhaps they should have run to the media at once....the DNC is not hesitating to do so.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
17. Bernie campaign's data was equally available.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:20 AM
Dec 2015

This on the day after Bernie achieves a new record.....2 million contributions.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
19. If the DNC was warned months that other campaigns were in jeopardy....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:39 AM
Dec 2015

then I can not imagine just blaming Bernie.

This is over the line.

riversedge

(79,170 posts)
26. Sanders Campaign Fires Data Director After Breach of Clinton Files
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:13 AM
Dec 2015

So, now its a Data DIRECTOR who did the dasterly deed, not some low level staffer!


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files



Sanders Campaign Fires Data Director After Breach of Clinton Files
The Sanders campaign was blocked from crucial voter information until an investigation is completed.
Jennifer Epstein

December 18, 2015 — 1:46 AM CST
Updated on December 18, 2015 — 2:13 AM CST


Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign has fired its national data director after he improperly accessed proprietary data from Hillary Clinton's campaign.

The staffer, Josh Uretsky, viewed data that the Clinton campaign had added to its own files during a temporary glitch in the voter database managed by outside vendor NGP VAN, two people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg.

The Sanders campaign confirmed late Thursday that it had fired a staffer who had accessed modeling data from the Clinton campaign but did not identify the aide. "That behavior is unacceptable and that staffer was immediately fired," Sanders communications director Michael Briggs said in a statement.

Briggs responded to a question about Uretsky's employment status by sharing that statement with Bloomberg a second time. Uretsky did not respond to requests for comment.

The fallout from the breach, first reported by the Washington Post, is a blow to the Sanders campaign, which is unable to access crucial data just as the Iowa caucus approaches on February 1. The Democratic National Committee maintains a master file of voter information that campaigns rent from the party and update with their own data. Access won't be restored until an investigation is completed, a Democratic source said. ...........

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
28. If they deprive Bernie of the voter database after he warned them repeatedly....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:36 AM
Dec 2015

this really changes the picture for me.

It's as much as saying the DNC is going to bring him down.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
27. Since Bernie campaign called the vendor this week, notified DNC for months.....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:13 AM
Dec 2015

And they are still in effect bringing Bernie's campaign to the dead stop just weeks before the primary and a day after major endorsements and fundraising...

If this is not brought to a good conclusion for the Bernie campaign, I am voting for Bernie in the primary....but this is breaking the party in two pieces. I am not handling it well.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
55. And no assurance that the Sanders data is safe while it's locked up.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:24 PM
Dec 2015

They could be combing through it this very minute.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. How do you prove what you deleted? DNC insists the campaign prove it's deleted.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:46 AM
Dec 2015


Democratic National Committee says it won't restore access to the voter file until the Sanders campaign can show that it has deleted all the data it accessed.


http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/18/10496492/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-confidential-voter-data

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
48. Once they start digging
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:26 AM
Dec 2015

They will find out that Hillary did the same thing with the help of the DNC

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
56. Of course....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie has an outstanding record on race issues, they attack him on that.

He has been great on gender issues, they attack him on that.

He has been consistent and focused for decades, they attack him on that.


DWS said repeated on TV that they were investigating this 'incident', but they have already leveled the penalty. If this is allowed to stand, stick a fork in it, the Democratic Party is done.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
54. If the DNC was notified months ago
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:19 PM
Dec 2015

... and the DNC/DWS are in Hillary's pocket, is there any reason to believe they weren't accessing Bernie's data? If the guy doing the IT had worked for Hillary for decades, anything they say should be accompanied by mountains worth of salt.

Admiral Ackbar just got his ass kicked by a metric ton of fish.

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