I believe Bernie is building a new party, one with honesty, integrity and

[Cal33]

working for all the American people, not just a few of the wealthiest. And
he is building this new party without any change in its name: It is still
The Democratic Party.

It seems rather odd, come to think of it. He had been an Independent all his
political life, and did not join the Democratic Party until he announced his
decision to run for the presidency this year!!

This change is coming from within - it's the Soul of the Democratic Party that
will be leaving behind all the corruption of the past, and embracing, instead,
Honesty, Integrity and Dedication to the betterment of our entire nation.

We are going to help Bernie succeed!

[VanillaRhapsody]

1. What is he going to call it?

[Cal33]

2. You missed it. It's right there in my post.

[VanillaRhapsody]

3. Democratic Party is already taken....he know that as he only joined it just a few weeks ago...

He needs to select a new name for this new one he plans to build

[Cal33]

5. The Democratic Party can fall, fail, and with dedicated effort still rise again and rebuild

itself anew.

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. But its not.....

It fact its doing quite well....have you noticed we have a very successful sitting Democratic President for example?

[Cal33]

8. Of late he has improved. But in the past he tried too hard to have the Republicans join him in

the spirit of bipartisanship. It seems that now he realizes that the Republicans don't want
any bipartisanship. They're strictly only interested in having things on their own terms.
It's their way, or the highway. And the Republicans were mostly successful in getting
their way.

An example: After one bargaining session with the President, Boehner came out and
boasted that he had gotten 98% of what he wanted!

[VanillaRhapsody]

9. WTF does that have to do with it?

Please admit you know very very very little about the accomplishments of this President....

http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/


The first thing he accomplished...the Lily Ledbetter Act

315 of them are listed at that link...

[Matariki]

15. You call losing both the House and the Senate "doing quite well"?

[Scootaloo]

29. How's that legislature looking? How're we doing at the state level?

[PowerToThePeople]

7. And it will now be taken back

by non-neoliberals.

[Cal33]

11. Right you are. We will be going back to the Democratic Party of FDR, Truman, & Kennedy.

[Matariki]

17. bravo Cal33!

[daleanime]

27. Because they didn't want to see it...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. I don't vote for labels.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson

[Cal33]

12. You may call them "labels" if you wish, but to older people, they represent names

of presidents, who knew how to run the government. They also knew how to let
the people have some say. This was so unlike the situation today, where the
government listens only to the corporations, and the people have no influence
in the government at all. We're no longer a democracy, but an oligarchy.

I'd prefer the government that is of the people, by the people and for the
people - the way it used to be at one time, when America's greatness was a beacon
to the world. Now the money- and power-mad corporations have taken over. Just
about every-one and everything can be bought. And corruption runs amok in places
high and low, and everywhere else in between. How degenerate have we become!!!
Many can't help but admit that we've become no different from a Third-World nation.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. Campaign engages in deeply dishonest behavior: building a party on honesty and integrity

Bernie's done. He won't get 10% in Iowa.

[Cal33]

19. You're jumping the gun, aren't you? Bernie has brought the case to court. At least

wait until we know what will be brought out there.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Let's come back and revisit this complete collapse when the votes come in

It is a watershed moment, as is evident from the desperate flailing. Bernie had one thing going for him: he seemed honest. It turns out he (and/or his people) are common thieves, and clowns to boot.

It's been all over but the crying. Now it is just an embarrassment.

[Cal33]

33. We'll see after the court hearing - if it will be a fair one- who are the common thieves.

[Historic NY]

32. We already can tell you if the DNC or Clinton camp raise the

proprietary information rule.........there are recent court cases relative to computer data acquisition.

[AgingAmerican]

14. From the ashes of the DNC!

Thanks DWS!

[MohRokTah]

16. Stealing a rival campaign's data lacks integrity and is dishonest. eom

[Cal33]

23. Of course, the question should also be raised, Why would anyone do such a thing in the

first place, when it could be had just by asking?

Now that the case has been brought to court, we will know soon enough.

[MohRokTah]

25. It could not have been had just for the asking

The Clinton campaign spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours on the data the Sanders campaign stole.

No way would they give it to the Sanders campaign for the asking.

[Cal33]

28. The information obtained by the DNC should be equally and impartially available to any Democratic

candidate for president. There should be no favorites over others. Just be patient. All this
ought to be coming out very soon. Some of it might even be discussed during tomorrow's
Dem. Primary debate -- I hope.

[MohRokTah]

30. That's not the data at issue here.

The data at issue is the Clinton campaign strategic entries on the voter lists which show which voters may be only moderately supporting Hillary as opposed to which voters strongly support Hillary. There's an entire grading system in there used for developing call and GOTV lists.

This data is incredibly critical in the early states and can mean the difference at the caucus and primary in Iowa and New Hampshire. The Clinton campaign spent millions on this strategic data and they've been developing it since before Sanders ever announced.

You may want to get better informed about what is actually going on here. The data is pretty meaningless outside the caucuses and primaries.

[mythology]

18. Is he going to help build it with the records his campaign stole?

It's hard to talk about honesty and integrity when you just got caught with your hand in the cookie jar and instead of coming clean with an independent audit, you file a lawsuit and stomp your feet.

[Cal33]

21. Just be a little patient. We may yet get the full story. And sooner than one might expect.

That is the whole purpose of Bernie Sanders' law-suit.

The third Democratic Primary debate will take place tomorrow (Saturday) evening.
I wonder if this subject would be brought up. Most likely it will be.

[seabeyond]

22. Not really since factually he is well behind. Kinda shoots all air out of your argument.

[MeNMyVolt]

24. Honesty and integrity, and STEALING FUCKING DATA.

Good plan.

[WDIM]

26. Making the Democratic party what it should be...

instead of Repuklican lite.

[Dawson Leery]

31. "The Integrity and Property Theft Party"