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Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:36 PM Dec 2015

Martin O’Malley and Bernie Sanders Bristle at Holding Debates on Weekends

Martin O’Malley and Bernie Sanders Bristle at Holding Debates on Weekends

“They’ve scheduled it during shopping season, December 19th,” Mr. O’Malley said. “I don’t know why that is. I think it’s out of a false sense that they have to circle the wagons around the inevitable front-runner.”

A spokeswoman for Mr. O’Malley’s campaign said that avoiding prime-time debate slots was a way for the Democratic Party to “protect” Mrs. Clinton, and that it had given Mr. Trump and the Republicans a better platform to express their views.

Mr. Sanders’s campaign said that he did not have any input about when the debates would take place and that he was hoping for more opportunities to discuss the issues with his rivals for the nomination.

“We’re playing the hand we were dealt,” said Michael Briggs, a spokesman for Mr. Sanders. “I guess Christmas Eve was booked.”

The Clinton campaign did not respond to a request for comment.


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/martin-omalley-and-bernie-sanders-bristle-at-holding-debates-on-weekends/
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IMO, prime time is when people get pissed they miss their game or whatever on tv. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #1
Hubby's employee Christmas party, and it's a good one, is always Saturday before. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #2
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
1. IMO, prime time is when people get pissed they miss their game or whatever on tv.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:40 PM
Dec 2015

HOWEVER- i don't know enough about scheduling tv programming and viewer habits.

But people prefer to talk about who won The Voice next day at work and not who did best a political debate.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
2. Hubby's employee Christmas party, and it's a good one, is always Saturday before.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:41 PM
Dec 2015

We have to rush every year because of course we are shopping all day!

This is on purpose.

Here is a write up just yesterday in the papers regarding the DNC shenanigans.

DWS has a funny way of getting voters out in the end for her candidate.
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Democrats in Hiding (Title for Tampa Bay Times)
By Frank Bruni, New York Times
Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:58pm

The Republican presidential candidates have demonstrated such an appetite for debates that if I set up nine lecterns in my living room on a weeknight around 8 and chanted "carpet bomb" and "anchor baby," they'd probably materialize en masse, even before I had time to vacuum and put out the artichoke dip.

But I could send save-the-date cards, promise canapés by Mario Batali and recruit Adele to belt out Hello whenever the doorbell rang: Still the Democrats wouldn't show up.

What a shamefully imbalanced primary season this has been. For all their flaws and fakery, the Republican candidates have squared off frequently, at convenient hours and despite the menacing nimbus of Donald Trump's hair; the Democratic candidates have, in contrast, hidden in a closet.

Tuesday night's meeting of Republicans was the fifth. The meeting of Democratic presidential candidates in a few days will be only the third.

And who's going to watch it? It's on a Saturday night, when a political debate ranks somewhere between dialysis and a Milli Vanilli tribute concert as a desirable way to unwind.

The previous meeting of the Democratic candidates was also on a Saturday night, and fewer than 9 million viewers tuned in, down from 15.3 million for the sole Democratic debate so far on a weeknight. All of the Republican debates have been on weeknights; the first two attracted more than 23 million viewers each. In fact none of the five Republican debates had an audience of less than 13.5 million.

The Republican events certainly have seductions that the Democratic ones don't. There are many more brawlers onstage, fanning out in a motley conga line. There's Trump. He could say anything, degrade anyone, spontaneously combust.

But the disparity in viewership is also a function of scheduling, and was thus predictable and obviously intended. When the Democratic debates were set up, party leaders assumed that Hillary Clinton would be their best candidate, put their chips on her and sought to make sure that some upstart didn't upset their plans or complicate things to a point where Clinton would stagger into the general election all banged up.

Bernie Sanders complained. Martin O'Malley cried foul. So did one of the vice chairwomen of the Democratic National Committee, Tulsi Gabbard, who made a lot of public noise about the paucity of debates and the unwillingness of the head of the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, to abide such dissent. It was an ugly sideshow for a few days, then it blew over. (Everyone complained except Hillary!)

But we shouldn't be so quick to forgive and forget how the Democratic Party has behaved.

It prides itself on being the true champion of democracy, more vigilant than the Republican Party about the disenfranchisement of voters, more invested in — and industrious about — making sure that as many people as possible are drawn into the process.

Then shouldn't it want its candidates on vivid, continuous display? Shouldn't it connect them with the largest audience that it can?

I'm surprised that I haven't heard more griping about this. What I've heard instead is the concern that if Clinton indeed gets the nomination, she'll enter the general election less battle-tested than she'd be if she were facing stiffer primary competition and enduring a greater number of higher-stakes debates.
Maybe. But a politician who's been through Whitewater, Travelgate, impeachment, an emotional 2008 campaign against Barack Obama and several Benghazi inquisitions doesn't strike me as someone who needs more battle experience or someone who's going to be surprised, cowed or disoriented by anything that a Republican nominee throws at her.

Clinton is more than adequately steeled. The real danger for her is that she's become all armor.
And a real vulnerability is that she's seen by voters as entrenched political royalty and thus distant — too distant — from those "everyday Americans" she talked about so much at the start of her campaign.

That's one of the problems with the Democratic debate schedule: It smacks of special treatment, and Clinton, who set up her own email server as secretary of state, can't afford to keep giving voters the impression that normal rules don't apply to her.

And the Democratic Party can't pretend that it's done the right thing here. While these debates aren't as high-minded as we'd wish or as illuminating as we sometimes pretend, they're an important piece of the puzzle of figuring out candidates, with a bit more spontaneity and surprise than many other facets of the modern campaign. They deserve priority and prominence. Artichoke dip optional.

© 2015 New York Times
Column: Those demure Democrats 12/16/15 [Last modified: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 6:51pm]
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/column-those-demure-democrats/2258006

Perhaps it is BERNIE SANDERS THAT THEY ARE HIDING??????
Why all over MSNBC to they only talk about the republican debates? Not a mention by Rachel Maddow on the upcoming Saturday night debate, the Saturday before Christmas! The biggest holiday party day of the year!! Little Debby has bee allowed to stay in charge. Now ask yourself, why?

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