2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis morning, I minimized the impact of this data breach
on the campaign. I spoke too soon, it seems. Since my earlier post, a Sanders spokesperson came out and gave a blustering press conference blaming the DNC for the whole thing.
In the meantime, it appears that more data may have been viewed and perhaps saved by Sanders campaign staffers. Right now, an investigation into network activity is underway, which will show clearly who accessed what and when. Network logs are wonderful things, since they record all activity in some detail, and are accessible for anyone wanting to go through them.
The Sanders campaign has fired their data manager over this business, but there may be others on the staff who used this temporary data breach to access proprietary data from other campaigns. It's a genuine kerfluffle at this point.
Sanders' spokesperson took an aggressive accusatory tone in his press conference, which is sure to get the media fired up to find out more. That may have been a serious mistake on his part. In fact, it may have been a disastrous mistake. Did he consult with Senator Sanders before going on the accusation trail? Who can say. It's an important question.
Why was the data exposed? Well, an IT firm was doing something and left the permissions open for access to the data. They say it was just for 40 minutes. That's not long, but long enough to create some interesting lists or reports from data you didn't have access too before. While the data may not have been savable, the report lists might well have been savable. I don't know, since I have no access to that network.
Here's the problem: Tomorrow, there's this Democratic primary debate. By holding an accusatory press conference, the Sanders campaign has ensured that moderators for that debate will raise this issue during the debate. How will the candidates respond. Is blustering the official approach the Sanders campaign will take? If so, Clinton will listen and say something about waiting until all the facts are available. If not, then both candidates may attempt to minimize the whole thing.
One thing's certain: We go into a debate weekend with a possible scandal in the news. That will make the debate much more interesting. What will happen? We will see.
Will DNCGate become the defining moment of this primary campaign? Could be. My interest level just rose. I was going to watch the debate anyhow. I'm betting more people than had planned to will as well. I'm thinking the Sanders campaign presser was a mistake - a mistake that may become a costly one for Sanders, especially if he tries to bluster his way out of the situation.
My earlier posts? Well, they're obsolete now. Now, we have a new game afoot. Things are getting interesting again.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)we are living in MM
MineralMan
(151,541 posts)Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)become the main topic of the debate overshadowing everything else. The investigation should reveal all, but that will likely take sometime IMO.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Those currently pressing conspiracy theories, will get nothing; and, those who it anti-Bernie, i.e., the gop, will want more.
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MineralMan
(151,541 posts)while the window of access was open, really. That we don't know for sure just yet. We will. I can wait.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)for downloading data that they weren't supposed to download.
And this already reminds me of the reason why a former boss of mine set up her own internal systems for tracking various data in the company as opposed to relying on systems that everyone else in the company used.
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Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)I said that they WOULD be responsible IF they downloaded the data.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)What Bernie's staffer admitted to is akin to robbing someones house to alert them they left their door open.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Also, the DNC would like you to hand over your credit card information and all sorts of other personal data. So they can be stored. By vendors who do not fix security holes for at least 3 months.
That is incompetence of the DNC.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,963 posts)imply that the DNC is actually competent. The 2014 election fiasco is a tribute to DNC incompetence.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)when that mean old Bernie Sanders takes poor little DNC to court.
MineralMan
(151,541 posts)If it is ever heard. Not everything "taken to court" is heard in court. Lawyers know that.
Dawson Leery
(19,582 posts)Will he do the same regarding a question of his campaign's integrity.
Tomorrow's debate better not become a press conference about his issue.
I want to hear about policy matters and how they will deal with a hostile, militant right wing.
MineralMan
(151,541 posts)We'll see how it is handled. If Bernie blusters, it won't be his best performance. He'd better be absolutely sure of his facts, I think.
elleng
(141,926 posts)There are OTHER matters, important to the nation and the world, and the public must hear from the 3 candidates on them. If it's raised tomorrow, there will be back and forth between hrc and bs, leaving out MO'M AGAIN. We CAN'T have that.
Let the media play it's 'he said/she said' games during the 24/7 media 'days' down the road, forcing the candidates and spokespeople to play with the 'facts' that they may or may not have available as time goes on.
tishaLA
(14,794 posts)and unless Sen Sanders himself addresses it today--not surrogates--in depth and honestly, it will only continue to grow.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I couldn't imagine worse optics. A fired higher up making contradictory statements to the campaign itself. Taking the party to court when they should be looking deeper into their own staff. This is the great leader we have been hearing about?
tishaLA
(14,794 posts)threatening to sue the DNC because one of its staffers viewed and, according to the staffer, downloaded a rival campaign's data.
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tishaLA
(14,794 posts)When I woke up this morning and read about it, I figured this would be worked out by the end of the weekend. That, I think, would have been no big deal. But if both sides get entrenched, and that appears to be where we are going, it could be crippling to the campaign and will look very bad even though the staffer has already admitted to viewing and downloading data from a rival campaign.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)I thought it much ado about not a damn thing-- but the response, well, apparently it *is* a damning thing.
Interesting to see how it plays out
jeff47
(26,549 posts)to hold your personal data.
The DNC would also like you to hand over your credit card information for donations.
I'm sure the first statement will have no effect on the second.
DWS going to the press was really, really, really, really, really, really stupid. Do these people think at all beyond "must help Clinton!"?
MineralMan
(151,541 posts)At least none supplied by me. I suppose I'm listed as a DFL precinct chair somewhere. I don't every donate to national Democratic organizations, though, so my info is irrelevant to them.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)MineralMan
(151,541 posts)That's the DNC's official website with a link to their donation page.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)... and do so now as well. Actually, I was kind of hoping the earlier prognostications would turn out to be what would eventually happen. Don't like this type of drama within our party.
enid602
(9,754 posts)Maybe HRC will say 'I'm sick of hearing sbout his damned staffers.'
Gothmog
(182,024 posts)
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