@#$% Hillary's DNC

[MannyGoldstein]

Just @#$& 'em. They take our money, moon us, and scream "who the @#$% else ya gonna' vote for, chumps?!"

I think more people are seeing that pack of hyenas for what they are. Their time will come.

[daleanime]

1. If this is allowed to stand....

stick a fork in it, the Democratic Party is done.

[Ferd Berfel]

42. When Calling the DNC

Here's a good tip from a FB poster

"Regarding phone calls to the DNC, call their cash donation line instead. That number is 877-336-7200. Calling this number forces live staff to deal with you, and keeps them from getting a donation call at the same time. You can use the call to tell them why you are refusing to donate. Let them know that you won't donate another dime until they get rid of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz as DNC chair. They will take notes. They guy who took my message even seemed embarrassed and seemed to agree.

Call now, operators standing by."

[roguevalley]

51. be nice too. they're just worker bees. 99%'ers

[peacebird]

55. Please make an OP with this!!! It is brilliant!

[Purveyor]

56. I've called a couple of times to express my uneasiness with

donating to the DNC via online transactions and request a mailing address to send a check.

Of course I'm old (not that old), can't see that well (when my glass are off) and of course hard of hearing (uh nope) and the last call took at least 5 minutes with a live operator to complete.

[pangaia]

61. Maybe it is just beginning..

[liberalnarb]

64. I'm sorry... this is a liberal site?

"The Democratic Party is done"

hmmmmmmm.

[daleanime]

67. I agree, if you're happy about it....

you shouldn't be here. But that's a decision you'll have to make for yourself. Hummmmmm.....

[liberalnarb]

71. The Democratic Party is having internal problems.

But we are not "done". The republicans are DONE. They are tearing themselves apart piece by piece as they move further to the right. The Democrats will be around for a LONG TIME but the Grumpy Old Party will faze out soon

[daleanime]

75. It would be nice....

but I read, and hear, the spin going on about this and all I see is a political body lying on the floor.

[liberalnarb]

78. Jesus, I hope your wrong.

Not as an insult to you. But, because the idea of the Dem Party dying is terrifying

[daleanime]

81. Yes it is.

[senz]

93. Yes, we need a political party for those with democratic ideals

although right now there is a civil war among Democrats, and I know which side I'm on.

[lumberjack_jeff]

82. This site needs more "underground". n/t

[Volaris]

84. That's the most succinct statement I've seen here in a good long while

[JaneyVee]

2. We are a Nation of laws.

And Bernie's campaign broke one.

[Bjorn Against]

20. You better contact the FBI and provide your evidence for that charge

I have seen no evidence to suggest a criminal investigation is underway, if you have evidence of a crime you should provide it to the FBI. If you don't have evidence then you are promoting a conspiracy theory.

[Jarqui]

22. And also file a charge for the same thing happening to Bernie's data in October

.. oh, but Bernie's campaign forgot to leak that to the media to smear the campaign that got his data and the DNC forgot to suspend the campaign that got his data ...

You see how that works?

[Bjorn Against]

23. Yes, this appears to be a dirty trick not a crime

If there were real evidence that a crime was committed the FBI would be all over this. There is no evidence of a crime, and it is quite ironic to see so many Clinton supporters on here today denouncing conspiracy theories when in fact they are the ones that are alleging a conspiracy.

[Jarqui]

24. Yep - most likely

Might be a tort but it's unlikely to be a crime (given he reported it to superiors and I saw the DNC claim the Sanders campaign got in touch with them, etc).

[BeanMusical]

46. "You see how that works?"

IOKIYH

[Purveyor]

58. The FBI will get right on it when they are finished with Clinton's

case.

[Bubzer]

33. No, his campaign did not. The only reason for the firing was for appearances sake. Nice try.

[Dont call me Shirley]

35. Bernies campaign manager says they have confidence that Bernie's data was stolen in the first

firewall "attack" on the Sanders campaign. It was a rat fuck by the dnc.

[JimDandy]

47. As in 'confidential informant' or 'they are confident that'... ? n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

91. Bernie's campaign manager and, more than likely the rest of Bernie's campaign staff, believes

and/or has confidence that data was taken from them beginning with the first firewall breech beginning in October 2015.

I assume that means they have evidence.

[BeanMusical]

48. +1 Totally agree.

[Enthusiast]

43. Untrue

[BeanMusical]

49. Wrong again.

[gregcrawford]

80. Do your homework.

They broke NO laws; they tried to alert the DNC that a problem that the Sanders campaign told the DNC about 2months ago was not fixed.

[lumberjack_jeff]

83. They contracted with the DNC to provide data.

The DNC provided too much and now is using it as an excuse to not provide any at all.

The DNC is gonna lose. Good.

[rhett o rick]

96. You are on the wrong side of this class war. Your friends with the billions will try anything

to keep the corrupt government in place. Why do you choose the side that has given us 50,000,000 American living in poverty? I know, you think the wealthy are godlike.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. hmmm...

A series of documents outlining an audit trail maintained by the database company, obtained and reviewed by NBC News, shows that the four individuals spent a total of about 40 minutes conducting searches of the Clinton data. Those searches included terms that point to Sanders' team gaining access to proprietary lists from more than 10 early voting states of Clinton's likely supporters as well as lists for Sanders backers. That data was saved to personal folders.


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-sanders-campaign-penalized-dnc-after-improperly-accessing-clinton-voter-n482341

Ya, it's the DNC's fault!

[jeff47]

10. The DNC just announced they use incompetent vendors to store personal data.

The vendor knew about this security hole 3 months ago. It's still not fixed.

In the rush for a "gotcha", they just took a sledgehammer to national fundraising, building voter lists, volunteer groups, etc. The DNC just demonstrated they can not be trusted with your credit card information, for example.

[Cali_Democrat]

14. Did the Sanders campaign take advantage of the vulnerability

and access sensitive Clinton voter data?

[jeff47]

15. Does that change that the DNC just announced they leak personal data?

DWS did not have to try to turn this into a mountain. In fact, she didn't when this same problem was reported three months ago.

This time she did try to turn it into a mountain. And announced to the country that the DNC can not be trusted with your data.

So, you upset that this happened three months ago, or only upset when it happened today?

[Stryder]

53. Yup.

Funny how it wasn't news 3 months ago.
Don't recall hearing a peep.
Of course now it's murder, it's rape, it's the Watergate tapes.

[reddread]

74. yep. the fauxtrage is redhot.

how desperate can they be?

[Volaris]

85. Only upset when making mountains works in her perceived political favor.

I, for one, would like to see her replaced.
That's not going to happen, but if we're not working for a Better World all around, what the hell are we all doing here??

[dpatbrown]

45. Or vice versa

[MannyGoldstein]

11. The database company that can't keep data segregated?

LOL!

[Go Vols]

21. database company

"Turns out that Nathaniel Pearlman, the CEO of NGP-VAN, the company that is responsible for the data leak that got Sander's campaign banned by the DNC from seeing Democratic party voter roles, was the chief technology officer of the Clinton 2008 campaign."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Pearlman

[Dont call me Shirley]

37. You should make an OP of that, Go Vols!

[zeemike]

57. Absolutely needs to be an OP

That should be known.

[Jarqui]

25. Well it is

And it is questionable that they were up to no good because they may well have been gathering proof of the breach as the guy who was fired claimed

[MoonRiver]

4. I'm worried about you Manny.

[sarge43]

41. Your concern is noted

[pangaia]

65. I'm not.

[MineralMan]

5. Eloquent use of euphemistic symbols for Anglo Saxon words, Manny.

Bravo! Man the pitchforks and torches!

[MannyGoldstein]

7. I done good this time Mr. MineralMan? nt

[MineralMan]

12. Oh, you always do good, Manny...

You don't always do well, though, I'm afraid.

[MannyGoldstein]

13. Not Good Enough, Manny!!!

I think we can both agree that hits the nail on the head.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. How about we just giggle at their antics?

[NCTraveler]

8. Sanders is responsible for this meltdown.

I understand the theme is "Pass the Buck."

I will still say what I have for a while. After this campaign season DWS needs to go.

[pangaia]

66. NO he is not respponsible for whatever it is called.

[NCTraveler]

69. I was wrong in my wording.

With what is currently known, it was higher ups in his campaign. From what I have seen to this point, while not handling it well, I do see a path to where he is acting ethically.

[pangaia]

73. In my opinion, with what is thus far known,

he is handling it very, very well indeed.

[Maedhros]

9. the HNC is clearly corrupt. [n/t]

[fleur-de-lisa]

17. "HNC" . . .

That about sums it up!

[closeupready]

26. lol, yeah, HNC - it sure is, isn't it.

Thx.

[BeanMusical]

52. "I am not a crook!"

[haikugal]

62. That is perfect! Thanks!

[Nyan]

16. They really act like they own the party.

Well guess what.
It's called a Democratic Party. Not Clinton Party.
It's not Bill & Hillary show, nor is it a Debbie and Hillary's mean little clique.

They had it coming. They're gonna feel the motherfucking bern whether they like it or not. If Debbie doesn't see that, her ass is getting sued. How about that.

[stonecutter357]

18. Sanders campaign improperly accessed Clinton voter data

[arcane1]

29. And deliberately left a trail to prove it, then reported it.

Next.

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. Yeah, Karma's a *itch.

What goes around, comes around. Theirs is coming.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[arcane1]

27. When they think our vote is guaranteed, they have no incentive to earn it.

[Hepburn]

28. +1,000

Apparently they are not much interested in the liberals in the Dem party. Backing DINO Hillary should have been clue enough, but doing this bullshit to Bernie? IMO, they crossed a line they should not have crossed.

What these a-holes have done is guarantee a loss by the Coronation Queen to whatever Repuke is nominated. Don't they get that by trying to sabotage Bernie, they are making sure that the Repukes take the WH and on down the line.

FUCK THIS SHIT!

[arcane1]

30. Hillary's friend Rahm called us "fucking retards"

With friends like those...

[jhart3333]

50. You're known by the company you keep.

[Tarc]

31. Good riddance

Obviously if Hillary wins the primary we will need as many former Sanders voters as possible, but the number of petulant Sanders supporters who will actually sit the election out is negligible. We went through this same withing with Hillary vs Obama and "PUMA" in 2008.

Sensible people come around, and the nonsensible people are too small in number to worry about.

Ta-ta.

[Jack Rabbit]

32. Would you buy a used car from Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

Hyenas? Your being too kind, Manny . The DNC is a vipers' nest.

[tecelote]

34. This is the most media coverage Bernie has gotten during his whole campaign.

This brought Bernie into the spotlight.

Americans can smell a rat and they love the underdog. Especially one that has their backs and is fighting the big bad oligarchy.

[Enthusiast]

44. This American can certainly smell a rat.

[pangaia]

70. Americans must be TOLD it is a rat.

Too many of them are too ignorant, gullible, misinformed or stupid... or all four.

[beerandjesus]

36. Manny, your threads have gotten so civilized....

...since I started using an ignore list!


Should have done this months ago, so I could enjoy your posts without having to listen to all the shills on here agitating for Bush II Lite!

Live and learn.........

[Matariki]

60. Seriously. It's really been improved since I last used it

Last time I used it you could see the word 'ignored' peppered through an OP. Now, blissfully, nothing. Not even in the My Posts tab. I just started using it again today. Much improved experience.

[NightWatcher]

38. And if they lose to Trump, they'll blame us fucking Progressives

Maybe they should stop shitting on us if they'd like us to turn out next November.

[TIME TO PANIC]

39. If this gives her the primary,

it will cause her to lose the general election.

[haikugal]

63. Hillary can't win...maybe they want to give it to the pukes?! nt

[TIME TO PANIC]

68. I wouldn't be suprised.

[gregcrawford]

79. Given DWS' despicable behavior in Florida...

... toward DEMOCRATS and showing favoritism to Republican neighbors, such an ulterior motive would not surprise me in the slightest. Some months ago, a vet who had already raised $100K to launch a campaign against an incumbent Republican in a neighboring district, and had all his ducks in a row, was summarily dismissed by Wasserman Schultz, saying the DNC couldn't help him. When he very politely questioned that decision, she blew up at him.

She is incompetent, and by all accounts a VERY unpleasant person to deal with, and even worse to work for. She's gotta go, and I think she just sealed her fate today. But then, she's got the Anointed One on her side, so it's unlikely that she'll be fired.

[Dont call me Shirley]

40. This is only going to give Bernie an even bigger supporter base. Ds on the fence won't stand for

tricky-dicky tricks especially not from their own.

[MisterP]

59. "we're not gonna run at all, and 'if' we lose it'll be all! your! FAULT!"

[dgibby]

72. Thanks Manny.

Wonder who else got access to our personal data. I am NOT amused.

[RandySF]

77. All this on behalf of someone who was never a Democrat

Until recently.

[Sheepshank]

86. Can't believe your post is hidden yet OP stands

If there was ever an example of a fucked up jury system.....

[Metric System]

88. +1000

[senz]

94. He's more Democrat

than Hillary will ever be. She's Third Way. That means bought and sold by wealth and major corporations. http://www.thirdway.org/

The Third Way should start their own party and leave the Democratic Party to the democrats.

[Metric System]

87. The fact that this thread still stands proves the jury system is pointless.

[BeanMusical]

89. Kick and R

[Lorien]

90. It's backfiring big time

I've barely been online today, already seen two people on FB switch to Bernie today because of the DNC's scumbag actions (one formally "undecided", another formally for Hillary), and I'm sure that they are just the tip of the iceberg.

[Dem2]

92. My team is good!

&^*& your team!!

Yay team!11!

[senz]

95. Bernie never stood a chance with DWS's DNC. Neither did O'Malley.

The fact that the CEO of the database company that allowed the data leak to go on for months also worked on Hillary's 2008 campaign suggests there was little hope of fairness toward the other candidates.

Then we have the debate schedule, protested by both Sanders and O'Malley.

Now the DWS' DNC is further crippling Bernie's campaign by withholding his campaign data.

Yet the American people love this guy for who he is and what he stands for.

And tomorrow we have the 3rd Democratic Debate in direct competition with Christmas shopping and the new Star Wars movie.

What would we think if the RNC worked to promote only one of the Republican candidates?