If Sanders is so unhappy with the DNC, why doesn't he run as an independent?

[MoonRiver]

Problem solved.

[reformist2]

1. And this is exactly why DWS needs to resign.

[MoonRiver]

10. She's not the best but shouldn't be fired

Just because Sanders doesn't like her.

[earthside]

41. DWS is a failure, that's why she should be fired.

The 2014 Congressional and gubernatorial wipe-out of Democrats happened on her watch, under her stewardship of the national party.

Why is she still even DNC chair after that kind of bad leadership and incompetence is a mystery.

Or is it?

Coming on top of the debate set-up that clearly favors Mrs. Clinton, this latest DNC fiasco further taints Wasserman-Schultz.

This episode is bad for the DNC and has Clinton dirty tricks written all over it.

Pres. Obama seems to be completely detached from party leadership, so DWS should resign post haste ... or she should be fired by the national committee.

[arcane1]

2. A stupid question.

[madfloridian]

8. A National Nurses spokesperson just twittered about such a run.

Getting attention on Twitter. Of course, we can't talk about it here.

[daleanime]

26. Yes.....

yes it is.

[panader0]

3. Hilly should fear that prospect very much.

[UglyGreed]

7. [phone]

[panader0]

15. From what I know of Democrats, Bernie is far more of a real Democrat than

Hilly can ever be. I voted as long ago as McGovern, and have voted D ever since. She is DINO.

[MoonRiver]

17. Completely disagree

[Deny and Shred]

25. Why? Please defend her positions

IWR? TPP? DOMA? Wall St donations? Donations from private prison corporations?

Your previous response is candy. Back it up.

You disagree - why?


If you can't explain, then why are you here?

[MoonRiver]

32. I have no intention of dignifying your insulting post with a reply.

I have been here for over a decade supporting Democrats. Why are YOU here?

[panader0]

35. How was Deny and Shred insulting?

Oh, those nasty facts....

[MoonRiver]

46. "Facts?"

[Deny and Shred]

37. Such dignity

Specify the insult. I proposed a challenge. You sidestepped. Not surprising.

[MoonRiver]

47. I find it insulting to assume nobody belongs on DU who is not a Bernie supporter.

As I said I've been here since 2003, through many presidential campaigns, and do not feel I need to justify my existence here to anyone.

[Deny and Shred]

49. I asked you to support your candidate

No mention of Bernie from me. You've invented other narratives.

Questions still unanswered.

[MoonRiver]

52. Why waste my time?

You are a true believer of Sanders and hater of Clinton, as far as I can see. Trying to convince you to support Hillary is completely pointless. No?

But if you are really curious about her I suggest her website.

[Deny and Shred]

54. Issues

I ask about issues. You still can't offer a basic defense.

You give me half-baked theories on whom I support, and claim victimhood.

I could always take you up on your brilliant recommendation and go Independent. Isn't that what your OP was about? Alieanating a big slice of the party.

Is that recommended on 'her website'?

(on edit) you wrote the OP. You literallly asked for your time to wasted.

Prepare a simple defense of Hillary's desicions and positions, and this would be so much easier.

[MoonRiver]

55. Not recommending anything.

[Deny and Shred]

57. You are specifically recommending splitting the Party

Nice try, Re-read you own OP.

Wow.

[Deny and Shred]

48. Was I impolite?

I had another line of questioning in my head that would have been hide-worthy. I appreciate the backup. Asking to support your candidate is now insulting, apparently.

The OP dropped their bomb and moved on to stir the pot in other threads. Typical.

[Duckhunter935]

30. so true. nt

[UglyGreed]

23. Many democrats

are not democrats these days......

[daleanime]

31. +1

[JaneyVee]

33. Bernie's legacy would be President Trump

And everyone would hate him.

[monmouth4]

4. I don't think he is upset with the DNC, Schultz is another matter..nt

[sadoldgirl]

5. Do you really want him to run as an

independent? Be careful what you with for!

[MoonRiver]

13. Just asking the question.

[abakan]

6. Because he wants to be elected.

This is a two party country and to be president you must be one or the other. I'm sure he had to hold his nose to become a democrat. I know I did.

[JI7]

9. he can't win as an independent

[Jarqui]

16. You might be right ... and you might be wrong

I'm not absolutely sure.

I'll tell you one thing, Hillary may well wind up in 3rd place if he runs.

I said this before. He does better against the GOP than Hillary.

Right now, we've got a racist carnival barker, a lying, flip-flopper 60% of the country doesn't trust and an electorate sick of Washington. An independent might have a pretty good shot against those two under the circumstances. A bunch of the country doesn't know Bernie - he's got a higher ceiling than where he is right now. Hillary and Trump - folks know who they are and why they like or don't like them and that they represent the Washington establishment. Bernie is not for sale and could be an alternative for their frustrations - punish both sides by not letting them have the White House.

[thesquanderer]

11. If Sanders runs as an Independent...

in a 3 way race with a Dem and Repub, the Republican wins. Good plan.

Thats exactly why Sanders is not going to run as an Ind.

[MelungeonWoman]

14. Say hello to President Cruz!

Is that what you want?

Bernie doesn't have access to HIS info. How is running as an independent going to solve THAT?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

20. Exactly right. THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t

[winter is coming]

18. Because the problem with the DNC isn't that Sanders is unhappy.

Sanders is unhappy because there's a problem with the DNC.

[MoonRiver]

21. In HIS opinion,

There are a lot of actual Democrats who don't feel the same.

[winter is coming]

22. And there are a lot of actual Democrats who do. n/t

[restorefreedom]

19. some people would like to see that

and you realize that if he does, its over for hillary. personally, i would love to see bernie in a newly formed progressive party, whoever as the dem, trump as a "conservstive" party, and some repub as an r.

get four of them out there and do runoffs until a victor emerges.

[karynnj]

24. Seriously, this is what you want?

Sanders, at this point, is as attractive an independent as either Perot at his peak or Nader ever. Who do you think he takes votes from (Trump, Cruz, Rubio ....) or Hillary.

That was WHY people wanted him to run in the primary -- not general election.

[LiberalArkie]

27. I think he pledged not to and he is a registered member of the Democratic Party.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. It would present a problem for me...

Which independent party to vote for if Hillary gets nominated.

[MoonRiver]

39. You mean between Bernie and tRump?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. I wouldn't consider Republicans and "independent" party.

Would you?

[jfern]

29. You Hillary supporters seem happy that the party will split in two

[MoonRiver]

36. Did I say I wanted him to do it?

Just curious about Independent Sanders.

[catnhatnh]

56. Yes-you suggested it above

"I'm all for it. He isn't a Democrat after all" -Your words.

[bobalew]

34. My aren't we just a little obvious....

[MoonRiver]

38. About what?

[Hoyt]

40. Won't be surprised if he does. And yes, I know he's said he won't.

He'll say he was treated unfairly. It won't end well if he does.

[Faryn Balyncd]

50. Because the "Republicans" are fascists. That is why Sanders, Clinton, & most of their supporters

... (and probably DWS herself) will support the nominee of the Democratic Party., regardless of who he or she is.

With Bernie, we've got a Two-fer: the best candidate who happens to be the most electable. But Hillary Clinton is a good person who would be a decent president in a totally different class than the "Republicans".

[ilTupe]

58. Right

No doubt that il Tupe is a fascist.

[mwrguy]

51. It'll never happen

[fredamae]

53. Most states (over 25) have a

closed primary system.

[jeepers]

59. You asked for it

Bernie forced to runs as an independent destroys the party as republicans sweep. Blame is thrown at the left as the democratic establishment moves to the right to fill the void as republicans become irrelevent. New left rises. I can see that

[TSIAS]

60. I'm glad you're okay with that

I figured Hillary supporters would oppose what they view as a Nader-like 3rd Party spoiler. I hope that's the official position of your campaign.

[Jim Lane]

61. Because his ambition for himself is subordinated to his love for his country.

As an independent candidate, he would have some chance of winning the Presidency, but a much greater chance of causing the election of the Republican candidate.

Therefore, if Clinton is nominated, Sanders won't stomp off in disgust while charging that the DNC stacked the deck in her favor (even though that would be true). Instead, he will swallow his disappointment, thank his supporters, and urge them to vote for Clinton in the general election.

This idea of putting principle over personal gain seems fairly obvious to me. I'm left somewhat surprised that you even needed to ask the question.