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Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:43 PM

 

Bernie Sanders and the DNC: It's war

Bernie Sanders and the DNC: It's war
By Dan Merica, Tom LoBianco and Dan Berman, CNN

Updated 8:11 PM ET, Fri December 18, 2015

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook let loose Friday evening, with Mook described the incident to reporters Friday evening simply "as a very egregious breach and our data was stolen. And he noted Sanders' petition email, which could be seen as a fundraising pitch for the Vermont senator.

"This is incredibly disappointing," Mook said, before driving the knife deeper. "This is someone who said he was going to run a different kind of campaign. Their staff stole data from their campaign and they are now fundraising off it"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-national-committee-civil-war/index.html

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Reply Bernie Sanders and the DNC: It's war (Original post)
workinclasszero Dec 2015 OP
earthside Dec 2015 #1
Cha Dec 2015 #46
MohRokTah Dec 2015 #2
workinclasszero Dec 2015 #9
daleanime Dec 2015 #11
PatrickforO Dec 2015 #12
panader0 Dec 2015 #30
MohRokTah Dec 2015 #41
Cha Dec 2015 #49
NYC Liberal Dec 2015 #60
Roy Ellefson Dec 2015 #21
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #23
Chan790 Dec 2015 #38
Cha Dec 2015 #47
Iliyah Dec 2015 #52
Cha Dec 2015 #53
bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #3
Cha Dec 2015 #50
morningfog Dec 2015 #4
seabeyond Dec 2015 #5
workinclasszero Dec 2015 #10
seabeyond Dec 2015 #14
KingFlorez Dec 2015 #13
daleanime Dec 2015 #16
seabeyond Dec 2015 #22
daleanime Dec 2015 #26
seabeyond Dec 2015 #32
daleanime Dec 2015 #35
Number23 Dec 2015 #31
seabeyond Dec 2015 #33
Number23 Dec 2015 #34
seabeyond Dec 2015 #37
Hekate Dec 2015 #39
seabeyond Dec 2015 #40
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2015 #6
Hekate Dec 2015 #42
stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #7
Depaysement Dec 2015 #8
emulatorloo Dec 2015 #19
BlueCheese Dec 2015 #15
Punkingal Dec 2015 #18
Rose Siding Dec 2015 #25
Punkingal Dec 2015 #29
Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #17
GusBob Dec 2015 #20
workinclasszero Dec 2015 #24
Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #27
INdemo Dec 2015 #28
Hekate Dec 2015 #44
INdemo Dec 2015 #58
PatrickforO Dec 2015 #61
Number23 Dec 2015 #36
MohRokTah Dec 2015 #43
Cha Dec 2015 #45
Iliyah Dec 2015 #54
Cha Dec 2015 #55
Cha Dec 2015 #48
jfern Dec 2015 #51
Iliyah Dec 2015 #56
kathysart_decoration Dec 2015 #57
INdemo Dec 2015 #59

Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:49 PM

1. Sanders v. Wasserman Schultz

Sanders will win in a knockout.

The DNC chair who led the party to the 2014 election debacle ... a DNC chair of obvious bias.

The DNC has to surrender or lose this "war" or their credibility is going to lead to another election disaster for Democrats.

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Response to earthside (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:24 AM

46. bernie's team Sabotaged their own campaign and now they're trying to weasel out of it..

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:50 PM

2. Sanders started his war on the DNC thirty years ago.

 

Why we ever let an unprincipled man like that into the party to run for the nomination is beyond me.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:03 PM

9. IKR?

 

That decision is coming back to haunt the democratic party

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:05 PM

11. ........

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:05 PM

12. Unprincipled??? You've gotta be kidding me!

I mean, Clinton is your candidate and you say Bernie is unprincipled???

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:50 PM

30. I know-- good grief--as if hrc knows what principles are

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:48 AM

41. Unprincipled, definitely.

 

Dishonest and lacking character, too.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:35 AM

49. Yeah, bernie is unprincipled.. I've seen it in the way he disses and disingenously mischaracterizes

President Obama.

BS isn't the pure entity his fans make him out to be. And, now his team has sabotaged their own campaign and trying to weasel out of it.


Patrick Dillon ‎@mpdillon
Hard to see how this is just a campaign helpfully trying to alert a vendor of a problem. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/18/the-presidents-press-conference-4/

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:14 PM

60. Sanders is a massive hypocrite.

He spent years attacking the DNC and Democrats, then became a Democrat only after he decided he wanted to be president because he needed access to the party's fundraising apparatus.

Sanders wants it both ways: he wants to be seen as the "anti-establishment" candidate, but wants access to the money and fundraising apparatus of said "establishment."

He's been a member of the party only for the last 6-8 months of his 30-year political career, yet he wonders why the DNC isn't moving heaven and earth to support him?

If the DNC actually does favor Hillary, maybe it's because she's been a member of the Democratic Party for 45 years, has worked her ass off that entire time to support and elect Democratic candidates all over the country, and brings in millions of dollars to support those candidates.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:14 PM

21. another reason

 

another reason why this lifelong Dem who has voted for Carter, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama, Feingold, Baldwin, Proxmire, Nelson, Obey, Kind etc. etc. etc. etc. will absolutely never ever ever vote for HRC

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:18 PM

23. ^^^^ THIS ^^^^

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:38 PM

38. Well, whatever.

 

It's your candidate I expect this will ultimately take out of this race.

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:26 AM

47. Exactly.. bernie said he'd be a "hyporcrite if he ever ran as a Dem bc of the things his said about

the party.

Now he's a hypocrite whose team sabotaged their own campaign so he sues the DNC.

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Response to Cha (Reply #47)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:45 AM

52. And fund raise off of it as well.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #52)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:51 AM

53. Yeah, fund raise off of his own team stealing data. If they're so proud of their grassroots

would they have to steal Hillary's data?

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:51 PM

3. And his voice sounded soo sooo victimized. Pathetic

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:37 AM

50. bernie's team sabotaged their own campaign and are trying to weasel out of it..

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:52 PM

4. Fuck the DNC.

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:52 PM

5. Nothing like an outsider coming in demanding privileges, resources, base vote to work at destroying

 

our party right before the 2016 election.

What a man.... !!

That integrity is just fuckin' blinding me.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:04 PM

10. Amazing

 

shit ain't it?

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:06 PM

14. Boggles one's mind. Nt.

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:05 PM

13. Indeed

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:09 PM

16. Right, there should be certain 'requirements' to meet....

before being allow to participate in the 'Democratic' Party.


And yeah, I can see you have a hard time dealing with integrity. Hope you feel better soon.

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Response to daleanime (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:15 PM

22. Staffers stole, He filed a lawsuit to disrupt, Sanders supporters excuse, you question my integrity?

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #22)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:26 PM

26. I question many things....

and yes, on this issue, you better believe I'm questioning your integrity.

Especially since the investigation has just began.

I just hope your not successful in killing the party with this, which I see as a very likely outcome. But I suppose as long as Hillary gets elected that all that matters.

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Response to daleanime (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:23 PM

32. "you better believe I'm questioning your integrity." Like that has any kind of meaning at all.

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 PM

35. Just as much as the question that it answers.....

which was yours I believe.

Of course I could be wrong about that, are you still yourself? And if you're not, who are you?

Well, who ever you are try to get a good nights sleep, the next few week look to be very interesting. See you in court.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:20 PM

31. What I am GENUINELY having issues with is this idea from certain quarters that because Sanders

campaign "reported" the flaws in the system to the DNC, that somehow makes their deliberate accessing of files they knew they should not be accessing okay.

DAMN. I wish the whole worked this way.

"Officer, I told the guys running this liquor store their security camera was broken. Why y'all coming after me just because I exploited the defective security system and helped myself to a couple hundred bottles of MD 20/20??!"

SERIOUSLY,

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Response to Number23 (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:25 PM

33. Ya. And now, they call anyone out on integrity for not standing up for the guy that stole.

 

priceless. Truly.

Hey, woman. It is great seeing you. I have not run into you since I got back.

Happy holidays to you all.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:28 PM

34. Happy holidays to you too, sea!



This whole thing is a clusterfuck of spectacular proportions. Sanders was already down 30+ points in the polls. This is the last fucking thing IN THE WORLD that his campaign needed and in-fighting is the last thing the Dems need.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #34)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:33 PM

37. "and in-fighting is the last thing the Dems need". Absolutely. Nt.

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:45 AM

39. That DNC data base is a BFD of a resource, and Independents never put a dime into it, did they?

Bernie is a Dem only for convenience. He currently gets all the perks that come with running as a member of OUR party -- and make no mistake, that DNC data base is a BFD that individual candidates cannot AFFORD to replicate, much less someone like Sanders the Independent from Vermont.

His campaign staffers screwed up royally, and they did it all by themselves. It's not Debbie Wasserman Schultz's doing, much less Hillary Clinton's.

Yet watch the faithful go ballistic....

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Response to Hekate (Reply #39)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:48 AM

40. Right on. It sickens me this man has been allowed all the privileges of the Democratic Party, as he

 

busts ass to destroy it.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:54 PM

6. Well, the media finally lifted the media blackout on the Dems

 

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:50 AM

42. The MSM pretty much look for entertainment these days,which in a presidential season is kind of sick

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:58 PM

7. K&R!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:59 PM

8. Before Mook and you get too excited

His hyperbole is ridiculous - "they are now fundraising off it. " How does this clown know that?

A Sanders-Clinton war could lead to a Cruz or Trump presidency, with a fully Repuke Congress.

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Response to Depaysement (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:12 PM

19. I got an email from Jeff Weaver, recapping his press conference

There was a big red CONTRIBUTE button at the end of the email.

So that emal I guess is what Mook is referring to.

But that CONTRIBUTE button is on EVERY e-mail I get from the campaign.

So as far as I,m concerned I don't see any problem, obviously a template or something

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:07 PM

15. I wish Mook had stayed out of it.

The Clinton campaign should distance itself from this and let it play out between the DNC and the Sanders campaign. I get that he's angry, but I think this is a tactical error.

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Response to BlueCheese (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:11 PM

18. Yep.

Piling on is not a good idea.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:19 PM

25. By employing a tiny bit of empathy, how would you feel

if Clinton's camp did this?

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:48 PM

29. Not surprised.

And I will give you some empathy when someone proves her campaign suffered damage.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:10 PM

17. Good. The long war between the left and right wing of the party needs to be out in the open.

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:13 PM

20. The war is over before it began

The guy is a loser

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Response to GusBob (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:19 PM

24. Bernie is exposed

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:26 PM

27. Then cry havok and let slip the dogs of war.

 

Let them regret the day they ever thought they could get away with this unmitigated bullshit.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 10:41 PM

28. President Obama should issue an annoucement tomorrow and fire

Debbis Wasseman Schultz. For the Clinton Campaign this is taken directly from the Republican campaign style play book.
For Robby Mook..you sound just like Karl Rove when come up with Bull shilt like this .
This is Atwater tactics even....
You should be ashamed.

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Response to INdemo (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:43 AM

44. Dear BSer: The POTUS does not hire and fire the DNC Chair....

As you would know if you were involved in the Democratic Party.

Sanders' campaign is suffering a purely self-inflicted wound. Heads will -- or should -- roll in HIS campaign, because THEY screwed up.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #44)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:50 AM

58. No he doesnt hire the DNC chair.He however has the authority to fire her

he fired Howard Dean.
But you are saying DWS did nothing wrong?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #44)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:23 PM

61. I haven't seen any wounds.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 PM

36. "The breach was revealed at a time when Sanders' candidacy is fading from its summer highs"

and Clinton is dominating the Democratic race, leading 59%-26% nationally, according to a Monmouth University poll Wednesday."

This was LITERALLY the last thing in the world his campaign needed.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:22 AM

45. "This is incredibly disappointing," Mook said, before driving the knife deeper. "This is someone who

said he was going to run a different kind of campaign. Their staff stole data from their campaign and they are now fundraising off it"

Ha! bern says a lot of things.

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Response to Cha (Reply #45)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:51 AM

54. Classic GOP move by his campaign

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #54)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:08 AM

55. Yep.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:31 AM

48. bernie whining about the lack of more debates is priceless since he lost both of them. sanders is

the one who's doing the "screwing".


Patrick Dillon ‎@mpdillon
Hard to see how this is just a campaign helpfully trying to alert a vendor of a problem. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/12/18/the-presidents-press-conference-4/

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:40 AM

51. Bernie won this battle decisively, his lawsuit made the DNC heel

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:04 AM

56. Ans will lose the 3rd one as well, even with the constant click click click

on the online polls, meanwhile HRC is over 55 % and better.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:54 AM

57. Outrage?

 

I can't believe that anyone would be buying this man's - and the HRC campaign's - FAUX outrage. There is great transparency here if you are willing to look it straight in the eye. It's depressing

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:24 AM

59. These are tactics Republicans use.

What the Clinton campaign is doing(Campaign manager Robby Mook) now is taking this issue turning it around and making it appear as if this is all Bernie Sanders campaigns fauilt.
This is how the Republicans actually won in 2010,and in 2012 ,and they tried this BS in 2012 by taking the budget crisis and other issues of 2007-2008 then the AFC 2010 and in 2012 other issues and failures the Republicans screwed up on and blamed it all on the on the Democrats. It worked.
What the Clinton campaign is doing now with this "breach" issue is turning this around and blaming Sanders.
This is right out of the Karl Rove,Lee Atwater, Reince Priebus and Cheney's playbook.
The difference here is then the Democrats didnt fight back,(wonder why)2011 Debbie became DNC chairman .
But now the Sanders campaign will fight back and DWS and the Hillary campaign will lose on this issue

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