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Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:23 AM Dec 2015

Don't you just love the "Give 'em enough rope" strategy?

It's truly magical. Sit back and let your opponent do all the work for you. DWS got Bernie more publicity than he's seen the entire campaign, disgusted Hillary supporters are jumping ship to the Sanders camp, and Hillary's reputation for dishonesty just grew exponentially.

Personally, I think we should keep DWS. She's worked wonders for the Sanders campaign.

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Don't you just love the "Give 'em enough rope" strategy? (Original Post) Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 OP
When someone tells you who they are you should believe them n/t Fumesucker Dec 2015 #1
Sweet couple of days! n/t Hepburn Dec 2015 #2
It's been a good week. bvf Dec 2015 #3
The DNC was buried by it's own bullshit. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #4
We can at least hope it was the DNC's OWN bullsh*t and not something worse. merrily Dec 2015 #35
yes, I'll bet a lot of political strategists... grasswire Dec 2015 #5
I understand and admire your thinking about keeping DWS as a strategy. merrily Dec 2015 #6
Wise words, could not have said it better myself /nt Dragonfli Dec 2015 #8
Thanks, Dragonfli. Coming from someone like you, that is high praise indeed. merrily Dec 2015 #9
I believe we think alike in many ways Dragonfli Dec 2015 #10
Oh, my goodness. My first self-described "fan!" I could not have asked for a better one. merrily Dec 2015 #12
I'm hoping the after party will be right here during a Sanders inaguration Dragonfli Dec 2015 #22
I just realized: We have no universal US folk dance(s)! merrily Dec 2015 #29
“If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.” -Sun Tzu. nt OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #7
Thanks! Perfect! I need to memorize Sun Tzu's comments. merrily Dec 2015 #19
Or you'll drop dead, fall in, and make someone else's day. winter is coming Dec 2015 #27
And I thought Sun Tzu was cold! merrily Dec 2015 #31
"disgusted Hillary supporters are jumping ship to the Sanders camp." NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #11
Oooooo. Nance vs. Le Taz merrily Dec 2015 #14
No battle royale here. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #15
Yes, I saw your posts with your standard games. You need not explain them to me. merrily Dec 2015 #17
I didn't think it was a "game" ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #21
LOL! I do agree as to the bit about Taz's capabilities, though. Hence, my popcorn post. nt merrily Dec 2015 #23
It's really not many Hillary supporters that are jumping ship, Nance. Scuba Dec 2015 #37
Snaps for Scuba! hootinholler Dec 2015 #38
We've got to see what the debates bring tomorrow. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #13
That "simple fact" is much like your classical philosophical question about a bear merrily Dec 2015 #16
With such fervor? I don't think so. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #18
Every debate in which Sanders and/or O'Malley participate is interesting. merrily Dec 2015 #20
Here's to thoroughly examined turds! Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #24
Not the most appetizing toast I've ever heard, but I'll drink to that anyway! merrily Dec 2015 #25
The Sanders camapign acts just like the Republicans RandySF Dec 2015 #26
It's succeeded too... at least in the DU ConservativeDemocrat Dec 2015 #32
Got red handed doing what? Trying to make sure Bernie's data was not compromised by the negligence merrily Dec 2015 #34
Nope DWS is next on the chopping block. Kalidurga Dec 2015 #28
Your're probably right. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #39
No: for the good of the party she needs to go. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #30
You just made all of that up. Lil Missy Dec 2015 #33
she initiated the sh*t storm we all knew was coming azurnoir Dec 2015 #36
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
3. It's been a good week.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:31 AM
Dec 2015

Probably a game-changer.

Although your point is taken about DWS, can't agree with you there. DWS being handed her walking papers would be another HUGE feather in Sanders's cap.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
5. yes, I'll bet a lot of political strategists...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:35 AM
Dec 2015

...are filing this episode away for the lesson books. The Bernie campaign showed amazing grit and growl today.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. I understand and admire your thinking about keeping DWS as a strategy.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:55 AM
Dec 2015

However, I perversely would rather have a Party that is on the up and up than win.

If DU has taught me anything this primary season, it's that putting winning above honesty, decency, and other values and principles is very ugly in my estimation.

As corny (and self-defeating) as it may sound, I would rather be true to myself. I know I have survived my candidate's losing a primary or an election because I have experiences that before and survived. I have never lost myself and therefore don't know if I can survive that. I'm too risk averse to take that huge a chance.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. Thanks, Dragonfli. Coming from someone like you, that is high praise indeed.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:09 AM
Dec 2015

I've been admiring your posts whenever I come across them.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
10. I believe we think alike in many ways
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:12 AM
Dec 2015

I'm one of your biggest fans, I suppose after my initial statement that comes off as a bit narcissistic

merrily

(45,251 posts)
12. Oh, my goodness. My first self-described "fan!" I could not have asked for a better one.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:18 AM
Dec 2015


Where's the after party?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
22. I'm hoping the after party will be right here during a Sanders inaguration
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:38 AM
Dec 2015

With vitual drinks all around!! (likely a few real ones as well)

Oh! and dancing, I have heard that no revolution is worth having if there is to be no dancing involved!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. I just realized: We have no universal US folk dance(s)!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:49 AM
Dec 2015

First Nations have theirs, individual immigrant/ethnic groups have theirs, and we have fad dances. However, we have no US folk dances that we all have in common as a people.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
11. "disgusted Hillary supporters are jumping ship to the Sanders camp."
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:16 AM
Dec 2015

Do you have the stats on that? Can you provide a link that shows the numbers of how many HRC supporters have jumped ship to the Sanders's campaign?

I wouldn't want to think you were just makin' shit up without having the evidence to support it.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
15. No battle royale here.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:23 AM
Dec 2015

I'm just asking Le Taz to provide the proof of her statements.

I'm sure she has those facts at-the-ready - or she wouldn't have made those statements in the first place.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. Yes, I saw your posts with your standard games. You need not explain them to me.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:27 AM
Dec 2015

They're transparent and not deep enough to require explication, but I do appreciate your willingness to educate me. Thanks!

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
21. I didn't think it was a "game" ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:35 AM
Dec 2015

... to ask a poster for links to back-up a statement they've made as being factual.

If Le Taz doesn't have any facts to prove her assertion, she is perfectly capable of saying so.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
13. We've got to see what the debates bring tomorrow.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:19 AM
Dec 2015

If a bear shits in the woods and no one is around to see it, did it really happen?

The DNC is all in on Clinton - I hope that simple fact comes across tomorrow.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. That "simple fact" is much like your classical philosophical question about a bear
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:25 AM
Dec 2015

relieving itself in the woods without media coverage. MSM was sure all over the "Bernie campaign did something bad with Hillary's data" myth. The stories and press conferences were proliferating so quickly yesterday, I could not have kept up with them, even if I had devoted my entire day to the effort.

Has msm ever reported the DNC's blatant actions vis a vis HRC with that degree of fanfare, speed and coverage?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. Every debate in which Sanders and/or O'Malley participate is interesting.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:34 AM
Dec 2015

However, Mr. and Ms. America may not get as close a look at some turd piles as they do at others, real or trumped up. (No Trump turd pun intended, but feel free to create your own.)

RandySF

(58,696 posts)
26. The Sanders camapign acts just like the Republicans
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:57 AM
Dec 2015

Get caught red headed and bluster their way out. I guess Sanders does have a lot in common with Trump.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
32. It's succeeded too... at least in the DU
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:51 AM
Dec 2015

Whenever they're caught, just double down. Try to pretend its someone else's fault. "They made me steal, by leaving the door unlocked! Made me, I tell you!! And I'm terribly offended. It's all a big conspiracy!!!1!!1!"

This place has really become unhinged teabagger-of-the-left central.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. Got red handed doing what? Trying to make sure Bernie's data was not compromised by the negligence
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:59 AM
Dec 2015

(or worse) of the DNC's vendor, whom the Sanders campaign had warned of the breach months earlier?

Sorry, the ones acting like Republicans in this are not Bernie's supporters.

ETA: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251910870

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. Nope DWS is next on the chopping block.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:29 AM
Dec 2015

The DNC is going to have their hands full for at least a couple of days trying to keep up with the phone calls 877-336-7200 the DNC contribution line, to have DWS fired.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
39. Your're probably right.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:59 AM
Dec 2015

She fucked this up so monumentally the Big Boys are going to HAVE to get rid of her, otherwise, this stays with the party and will be used in the GE. IF they change Chairs and IF Bernie wins the nomination, the DNC MAY have a chance of surviving. Barring that, she and the DNC are done.

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